So , I have been chatting with a guy over email since about July. We've had great conversation and sent pictures/videos so I felt comfortable meeting him when he came to Dallas yesterday. Yes , I was two hours late lol but I I kept in touch and let him know what was happening. We meet at the hotel bar , sit and talk while he finished his drink and then we proceeded to him room upstairs. He gave me these cute gifts and we talked about dinner options, had a couple drinks and went on to dinner. We originally wanted Pappadeax's but 45 minutes wait ? No thank you. We then walked across the street to a diner style restaurant and had a nice dinner with some more conversation. Towards the end , I suggested a bbbj once we got to the hotel. We had been flirting and touching and kissing all evening, i thought this would be something he wanted. I guess I read all of his signs and our conversations wrong because he looked surprised once I said this. He then started talking about how hot that would be. Once I added that it would be $100, he froze. I am a escort turned stripper that currently strips. I arrived at 5pm and didn't leave until around 9:30PM (more on that later). I am not having free sex at the moment so was i wrong for expecting payment or was he wrong in expecting civilian sex ?
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What venue did you start emailing the guy? TUSCL? Seeking Arrangement? You two obviously had different ideas in mind.
Same question as Sinclair. If you met him on a vanilla dating website then I could understand his surprise.
One flag I can see is that you sent him pics and videos. I am assuming these were R rated? Did he pay you for this?
Lol. I met him on here
I will not under any circumstances tell you who it was but he is a great guy. No payment for pictures.
Has money ever been mentioned in your email ? This guy expected it at no charge,and from reading your backstory......I would have to
He might have thought that buying the gifts, drinks, and dinner would have been payment enough. Was he aware that you are an escort?
So across the street to Wafflehouse it was?? :P
But srsly, how did you meet?? If you met him off TER/craigslist it's one thing, off match.com then it's another
Just sounds like really horrible lack of communication. You're exchanging emails for a month or two, and neither one of you knows what to expect.
He had read my ooata before and I have openly stated that I am a stripper/escort. Money wasn't stated when we were talking through email
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I’m sorry, but I am having a very difficult time believing any guy you met on this site was surprised by the offer of a $100 blow job from a stripper. The only thing that surprises me in this story is that you didn’t ask for more.
Amelia, you look great in your picture. I think $100 for a date and a BBBJ would be a bargain. If you ever come to Detroit, let me know.
This guy must have been very dense.
So what were you two talking about this time if money wasn't stated?? anything sexual or was it what your favorite bands are??
But before any action is done, money should always be discussed up front.
If you've been messaging for months and money wasn't discussed, you are both being fools, him for traveling from wherever to Dallas, you for allowing it to proceed without clarification. I'd venture a guess that his expectations were encouraged, by you, but without knowing where he came from, it would be sort of crazy to go to all of the trouble and expense of travelling, just to meet an escort, so on balance, I think you bear a large portion of the blame.
I'm going to say she bares 100% of the blame. She suckered some poor sap into meeting you and he had no idea he had to pay ? That should have been mentioned in email #1 and then again in the one when he was on his way. He bought you "cute gifts" and was going to dinner. He was not meeting an escort,he was meeting a date.
^I would agree with you, except she did say that she met him here on this site, if I'm reading her story correctly, and with all of the advice posted here, for him not to ask was foolish, and a violation of one of the cardinal rules here.
^I would agree with you, except she did say that she met him here on this site, if I'm reading her story correctly, and with all of the advice posted here, for him not to ask was foolish, and a violation of one of the cardinal rules here.
Once some guys start to talk to girls they think they are different and loose sight of the fact that you are doing business with these girls.
Okay. So I made a mistake in assuming that he would pay for that. But with him being a member from this site and known my background, I still think he shoukd have at least expected.
And since he didn't ask up front I think says he was not expecting to be changed.
Must have been one of those 'I think she really likes me' guys. Next time before you meet tell him you are expected to be compensated for your time as you are taking a shift off - nice way of letting him know what's up without sounding too transactional.
"Must have been one of those 'I think she really likes me'guys "...... ....... My thoughts exactly.
No you weren't wrong. Yes, he was wrong. Any guy that meets a girl through TUSCL and expects freebies is deluded.
100% agree with londonguy.
Again, not really sure I believe this story, but assuming it’s true, she didn’t sucker him into anything. They had a date. She didn’t ask him to pay for that, only for the BJ. If he was thinking they were going to get married and make babies together, he should have known better having met her on this site. Now he definitely knows better.
In other words, I’m on Amelua’s side on this one.
Sorry, Amelia.
I think that the title of this thread is misleading. I think Amelia knew from the start that subtly slipping in the price of her services into a long paragraph would elicit a "rise" from Tuscl membership. Just witness the number of guys tripping over themselves to respond to thread.
Others have pointed out you weren't wrong to expect compensation. I won't belabor that.
You kept him waiting for two hours? I know this is a common theme but I don't understand it.
You know where you are. You know where you need to be and when. You know how long it should take to get there. To me it is a simple plan. I need to be there by 5 PM. It will take me one hour so I need to be on the road by 4. It will take me 30 minutes to get ready so I must be done with everything else and getting ready by 330.
It seems to me that many women plan this way , I need to be there by 5. That really means 6. So I can start getting ready at 6:15.
Let me know if you ever make it up to NJ. I will have a reservation so we don't get turned away .
I gave him plenty of room to decline. I told him that if he wanted to pay then I would be down or we could just go back to his room and cuddle. I have a little red river and he understood nothing else would happen. I didn't expect anything from the date , just for anything sexual.
I feel Amelia is right and the guy is a moron. Dancers need to be paid.
But maybe I shouldn't be so hard on the guy. He may have wanted to remain faithful to his goat.
@ K. Couldn't agree more, but as you say it's a common theme with ladies, especially strippers. In all my OTC meetings over there only one turned up on time, and she arrived at my room exactly at the booked time.
I'm sorry, I was just shocked at the amount.
I thought the going rate for a BBBJ from a TUSCL member stripper was 50 cents.
Yeah, Juice is pretty-cheap and tries to get free service from dancers by getting them some cheap gifts - the Juice mane fails again
@K
In all fairness us men are much simpler - women will usually doll themselves up for a date and have a harder time picking an outfit to look good in - us dudes usually just shower and go (and sometimes shave)
I'm intrigued. How many parts are in this series?
As others posted, could be an inexperienced SCer that thinks he can find a non-P4P GF in a strip club - yes he should know the deal, but I'm not totally surprised at his reaction, fair-amount of guys on TUSCL that wanna make S.O.s out of strippers.
And I don't blame Amanda for not bringing up payment from the get-go bc that can ruin the mood for some PLs, but in the future probably best to iron that out upfront since it's business and not meant as a romantic date.
Part II
He took out his dick and was endowed in double-digits and Amanda said "well damn that's a dick worth sucking for free, forgot the 100"
My thought is that it was the Funky Cole Medina. You definitely don't even want to ask how the rest of his trip went.
“I think that the title of this thread is misleading. I think Amelia knew from the start that subtly slipping in the price of her services into a long paragraph would elicit a "rise" from Tuscl membership. Just witness the number of guys tripping over themselves to respond to thread.”
Good of you my man to call out these attention whores who spam the board by making threads about meeting up with TUSCLers. Maybe if we do it enough, these beta cucks will stop falling for their shit.
That being said, I too am getting a rock hard “rise” as well and she would be a welcome addition to my lineup as well.
All she needs is $5000 to get started.
Papi I understand it takes them longer to get ready but the process still works. Work backwards from when you need to be there with the correct times. A grown women must know what she needs to do and how long it takes.
Looking at Amelia’s picture, I can only think that the PL would be very fortunate to score a BBBJ from this lovely at a bargain price of $100. If I was he, I’d be writing her right now to set up another meeting to get those awe-inspiring lips around my unit, $100 or not!
I’m kinda with Londonguy on this one, though I might change my mind if it turns out that he wasn’t looking for or expect any sex at all and was just looking to spend some time on a fun date with a lovely young lady. Hey, it could happen.
However, I’m also kinda agree with those who’ve opined that you could have been clearer sooner. Mind you, I’m not sure what that might have entailed. Maybe something like “You know who I am, so just be aware that if you’re expecting something besides a date and cuddles, that’s a separate negotiation.” I’m sure you could probably come up with something a little less...transactional though. :-/
Of course, if he was looking for a no sex kind of thing, that might have put him off.
It's hard for me to say who was at fault for the differing expectations without reading the texts that led up to the meet.
Making a snap judgement based on one side of the story is like jumping to the conclusion that a cop wasn't justified in shooting a suspect based on an MSNBC report.
