Sub-Par service for a top tier customer....Perplexed and Confused
John_Longwood
California
I've wondered what it would be like to have the resources to become one of those guys that has a dancer sit next to him all night long.
Once the girl sees those particular customers come into the club they get happier than a kid on christmas morning and hey him with extra and special attention.
I met a dancer when I didn't have the resources and have been her regular for almost two years now, both ITC and OTC. Now that I have the resources I spend some serious cash on her now but I don't receive the treatment that I should, given the amount of money I spend on her.
If I come see her at the club she's not excited to see me at all. She'll sit down and make no effort to start conversations or to even keep them going. She acts distant and aloof and create space between us. For purposes of this comment, let's call that dancer, dancer "Z".
On a recent visit this happened and the night ended in argument started by none other than her. When I met her I was naive and probably still am because I like her and she's knows it. On this particular visit she spent a minimal amount of time with me. She was then called up to the stage to dance and danced a total of two songs. I was the only customer sitting by the tip rail and tipped her a good amount of singles. She'll usually come close to me if I'm the only customer by the tip rail and encourage touching while making eye contact. This time she had a serious expression on her face and did even bother to make contact while she danced in the distance.
The last straw came after dance when instead of coming back to sit with me, she approached another customer on the opposite side of the dance floor. I don't intend to interfere with her hustle by any means, but for the sugar daddy that I've become, I should get priority over other customers.
Unlike with me, she sat really close to this other customer, and whispered something to him. She was talking so close to him that it almost appeared as though they were making out. They didn't have a long conversation, probably only spoke for less than minute, it what appeared to be the two discussing "arrangements"....Then off they went to the VIP Room.
This particular club is not known for stage shows or lap dances. It is well known for extras and UHM and there is no way that someone will pay over a bill for "just a dance" in VIP. They enter the VIP area together although she came right back out and headed towards the dressing room. On her way there she told me "that guy is going to be disappointed he only has money for the VIP room but doesn't have money extras...watch".
What's with all of the explanations? To me that signifies a guilty conscience because nobody asked her anything. She went back to the VIP room and was in there for about 20 minutes or so. When they came back out, the customer had a smile on his face from ear to ear. He went back to sit with his buddies and it appeared as though he was telling them a good story about his experience. Hardly the reaction of someone has just received a lackluster "regular" dance.....That's when I decided to even the score.
I scoped out the room for the baddest dancer (let's call her dancer "X") there and when I found her I approached her. I introduced my self, shot the shit with her, and then asked her coyly about the dances. I asked her if the VIP room would offer "more fun". Lo behold before dancer X could respond, dancer Z my regular go to girl comes out of nowhere and interrupts us. She is visibly upset and angry and tells me "oh really what is going on right here....I thought that you came here to see me....If you just want to dance with her then go ahead dance with her" in a very very upset tone.
I don't know why but I chased after her and basically begged Dancer Z for a dance. An argument between ensued and she was telling me that "she wasn't about that", "that we should just stop talking to each other if that's the case", and was "telling me that I wasn't being loyal to her". She also continued to adamantly deny that she did any extras with the other customer, but that's neither here nor there, I'm not there to interfere with her hustle.
My issue with her is the dishonesty, she can't tell that the guy creampied her and it doesn't make a difference because at least she was being honest, it is the lies that I'm not cool with. I don't understand why she isn't upfront about what happened because even I though feel something special for her (and deep down I may not like) I logical enough to understand that, that is her bread and butter. What also upsets me is the fact that the she doesn't reciprocate or provide good companionship for the outrageous amount of money that I spend on her....At this point I've probably could've attained some sort of degree with that money..lol....And if that is the case and she doesn't feel what I feel about her then that's fine....We can treat this as a client/vendor situation and if the vendor is not providing the level of service that she is being paid for then she will be replaced WITH ANOTHER VENDOR.......What I don't understand is her outburst and rage over my talking to another dancer!!!.....Why the jealousy?? Any thoughts, fellas?
Once the girl sees those particular customers come into the club they get happier than a kid on christmas morning and hey him with extra and special attention.
I met a dancer when I didn't have the resources and have been her regular for almost two years now, both ITC and OTC. Now that I have the resources I spend some serious cash on her now but I don't receive the treatment that I should, given the amount of money I spend on her.
If I come see her at the club she's not excited to see me at all. She'll sit down and make no effort to start conversations or to even keep them going. She acts distant and aloof and create space between us. For purposes of this comment, let's call that dancer, dancer "Z".
On a recent visit this happened and the night ended in argument started by none other than her. When I met her I was naive and probably still am because I like her and she's knows it. On this particular visit she spent a minimal amount of time with me. She was then called up to the stage to dance and danced a total of two songs. I was the only customer sitting by the tip rail and tipped her a good amount of singles. She'll usually come close to me if I'm the only customer by the tip rail and encourage touching while making eye contact. This time she had a serious expression on her face and did even bother to make contact while she danced in the distance.
The last straw came after dance when instead of coming back to sit with me, she approached another customer on the opposite side of the dance floor. I don't intend to interfere with her hustle by any means, but for the sugar daddy that I've become, I should get priority over other customers.
Unlike with me, she sat really close to this other customer, and whispered something to him. She was talking so close to him that it almost appeared as though they were making out. They didn't have a long conversation, probably only spoke for less than minute, it what appeared to be the two discussing "arrangements"....Then off they went to the VIP Room.
This particular club is not known for stage shows or lap dances. It is well known for extras and UHM and there is no way that someone will pay over a bill for "just a dance" in VIP. They enter the VIP area together although she came right back out and headed towards the dressing room. On her way there she told me "that guy is going to be disappointed he only has money for the VIP room but doesn't have money extras...watch".
What's with all of the explanations? To me that signifies a guilty conscience because nobody asked her anything. She went back to the VIP room and was in there for about 20 minutes or so. When they came back out, the customer had a smile on his face from ear to ear. He went back to sit with his buddies and it appeared as though he was telling them a good story about his experience. Hardly the reaction of someone has just received a lackluster "regular" dance.....That's when I decided to even the score.
I scoped out the room for the baddest dancer (let's call her dancer "X") there and when I found her I approached her. I introduced my self, shot the shit with her, and then asked her coyly about the dances. I asked her if the VIP room would offer "more fun". Lo behold before dancer X could respond, dancer Z my regular go to girl comes out of nowhere and interrupts us. She is visibly upset and angry and tells me "oh really what is going on right here....I thought that you came here to see me....If you just want to dance with her then go ahead dance with her" in a very very upset tone.
I don't know why but I chased after her and basically begged Dancer Z for a dance. An argument between ensued and she was telling me that "she wasn't about that", "that we should just stop talking to each other if that's the case", and was "telling me that I wasn't being loyal to her". She also continued to adamantly deny that she did any extras with the other customer, but that's neither here nor there, I'm not there to interfere with her hustle.
My issue with her is the dishonesty, she can't tell that the guy creampied her and it doesn't make a difference because at least she was being honest, it is the lies that I'm not cool with. I don't understand why she isn't upfront about what happened because even I though feel something special for her (and deep down I may not like) I logical enough to understand that, that is her bread and butter. What also upsets me is the fact that the she doesn't reciprocate or provide good companionship for the outrageous amount of money that I spend on her....At this point I've probably could've attained some sort of degree with that money..lol....And if that is the case and she doesn't feel what I feel about her then that's fine....We can treat this as a client/vendor situation and if the vendor is not providing the level of service that she is being paid for then she will be replaced WITH ANOTHER VENDOR.......What I don't understand is her outburst and rage over my talking to another dancer!!!.....Why the jealousy?? Any thoughts, fellas?
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Possible reasons a dancer changes her behavior:
* they get complacent and take the regular for granted as if he will always be there giving her what she want$
* she's going thru some shit in her personal life, affecting her behavior at the club
* the regular is not being as generou$ as he thinks he is or that she thinks she deserves for what she puts in
* the regular becomes too demanding/overbearing/clingy as if he was her S.O. - he expects her to treat him not only as if he's the only guy in the ckub but the only guy in the world - the regular basically wants/expects/desires her to act as a S.O. and not a business transaction
* she never liked the regular to begin with but put up with it bc of the $$$ till she couldn't put up with it anymore
There is exactly one way out of this: recognize she doesn't love you back, and that she is not giving you the experience you desire, and that given the dynamics you will never again get the experience you desire from her, so move on, and take this as a lesson not to make the same dumb mistake again
You’re never actually going to get those feelings reciprocated. (The real life equivalent would be you trying to “befriend” a girl who doesn’t like you back, doing shit for her and giving her a bunch of gifts in the hopes of approximating the intimacy of a real relationship.)
Yes, she’ll get jealous if she thinks she’s losing you as a source of income. And you played right into it by chasing after her instead of staying with the new dancer. The healthiest thing for you will literally be to just cut it off now. You don’t have the distance or objectivity to actually treat this like a vendor/client relationship. And she doesn’t like you enough to make it anything more.
- It's very possible.
- She is but why the attitude only with me?
- I've given her up to $1,000 for nothing in exchange.....That's a level of generosity that's kind of hard to beat or match.
- I don't expect that but what I do expect that I'm given that extra attention that anyone that spends a lot of money gets, at least this holds true with other girls. Furthermore the issue is also being placed at the bottom of the lineup. I ask for PRIORITY not exclusivity!!!.....I don't think this would've been an issue if I would've been the first batter up not the one "hitting cleanup".
- It's also very possible.
Instead, you give her $1,000 for nothing in exchange.....then are disappointed when she doesn’t read your mind.
Try that approach the next time you hire a plumber and see how well things turn out.
As long as you are investing more into her than other customers and you are decent to sit with, she should absolutely treat you better and with more priority, but it seems like she is taking advantage of you because YOU LET HER. Somehow you need to set your expectations with her and if she doesn't want to meet them you simply move on and drop her cold turkey. LOL trust me, no stripper wants to lose a reliable regular. That's your leverage. Use it.
Other guys she treats poorly never repeat with her.
She knows she can treat you with contempt and you will be back. She might even think you like it.
Man up. Tell her clearly what you want. Take your business to another lady if she doesnt give you what you want
I'd guess there's no way a RIL like this isn't bringing in an overwhelming amount of emotional baggage ... aside from the fact that she has no respect for him, the emotional baggage is so overwhelming that she's more than willing to lose him. This is a no-lose situation for her: either get rid of her most needy and draining customer, or continue making him pay $$$ for her to shit on him
LOL once my ATF DS realized that all I want is maximum time with a boner and that is the only reason I go to see her so much, she also realized that I'm her easiest regular, too, and started treating me as such. As Papi just stated, she started playing the game right. LOL now, unsolicited, she's always telling me I'm a huge bright spot in her day when I come in because she can just relax and doesn't have to cater to my emotions like her other regulars. She has a few that have relationship and women issues and they are constantly jealous of her with other customers (me included) and need her to just sit and listen to them wallow in their misery. With me she just has to wiggle her ass on my dick for half an hour before getting dances and then give me an LDK. Easy peasy.
Without knowing your motives for being in a club, it’s hard for me to comment. There’s a lot of drama that both customers and dancers like to do.
And Sirlap also said it well.
You have to cool your jets and realize this isn't a normal relationship. You must not be jealous and not seek any form of revenge, it will just break the dynamic apart. Instead focus on what made the relationship good for you, remain consistent, and most importantly make sure communication is the main focus during times of tensions. Just ask her if all is OK in her life, and if she wants to know why you're asking just let her know it's because she seems more distant than before with you. Any more than that will just create drama.
At this point it may be too late, you've already played out drama with her. In a normal relationship this can be cured but these dynamics are not intended for real feelings. You may be confused, it is hard to distance yourself emotionally in these situations, but realize that if she ever had real emotions for you other than your wallet she would have taken steps to make sure the relationship expanded beyond the transnational.
Maybe it’s only the money that makes her look at you without disgust, disdain or nothing in her eyes.
Also I have no doubt if we asked her for her side of the story it would probably sound a lot different.
In the past I had a slightly toxic relationship with a CF and was able to super successfully fix it. But it was no where nearly as far gone as you are. My advice would be to step back and first look at yourself. You are probably doing something wrong here. Second figure out what you want and don't be little bitch about it.
It was well understood what I wanted and expected for the agreed upon price. But the last few times she disrespected my time and money. The last time she left my hotel room I deleted her number from my phone before she had reached her car to leave. And this girl was stunningly beautiful and just about physically perfect in my opinion. A goddess if there ever was one. But I wasn't going to put up with her shit any longer.
The last few times I was in her club she was surprised I hadn't texted her before coming. I simply told her I had lost her number. The first time she was a bit confused, the second time I could tell she understood I was done.
Damn, I miss that girl but without her in my monger life I have met a lot of other hot dancers I wouldn't have otherwise.
Drop your girl, dancer Z, and start finding out there are many, many others out there who can easily take her place.
Why are you posting in this same thread with 2 aliases - JohnLockwood and SebastianCobb - troll, perhaps?
Duh. Obvious from the very beginning, all the trademarks of a (juice) troll post: first post from a brand new "member," trollish user name, overly long post, on a topic that members can't resist pontificating about.
I don't always look at the poster's name as I read the post. I assumed that response was by the OP and didn't realize it was a different name.
The OP composes a novel with his first post, which I didn't even try to read and it never ceases to amaze me how guys here line up to respond. No wonder this forum is the worldwide breeding ground for trolls.