Nude clubs can't serve alcohol - is as annoying as it gets
rogertex
Texas
One of the annoying gifts from our lawmakers.
Fortunately - the dinosaurs are on their way out.
I was reflecting ... what made the first lawmaker or councilman come up with this restriction?
"OK we'll allow our city to have a bikini-bar,
ok ok we'll let it be topless -
but if it is full nude then alcohol must go.
Patrons can bring their own booze.
Yes - that sounds about right - roll it out."
Did this guy believe booze and pussy can't go together?
But customers have been enjoying pussy with their own booze for decades. No more issues seen than what happens at topless clubs or bikini-bars or even a plain old night club.
.... just baffles me.
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Not brilliant but that's life. :(
I can understand why the strippers have a problem with it. It is easier to pry money from a drunk man instead of a soner one. Plus if they can have a dew drinks it makes it easier to deal with the customers.
I think some impotent councilman came up with that - and obviously voters could care less - and no one wanted to be seen fighting it.
No $12 or $16 "dancer drink" prices to deal with.
I get it. Its in place to protect both the strippers from physical and patrons from financial harm.
Anyway, though I dislike the "no alcohol w/ nudity" rule, once the girls trust me enough that she'll drink whatever I smuggle in, it downright works to my advantage
If anyone knows the correct answer please chime in.
It’s all bullshit but that’s what passes for public policy. A very similar dynamic has been at work for decades re marijuana.
In my view - if they serve alcohol - they should have better control over how drunk customers become. That’s most likely a major fallacy, but they have no control with guys who bring their own booze.
It does mean higher cover charges. It also means less clubs. Places that have a high number of clubs per capita are like Portland, every club is nude with alcohol, and looks like any bar can just add strippers. Decades ago when I was their, I was really surprised, a few clubs per block in the downtown. Just little places, bars that added a stage.
I feel that no alcohol yields a higher quality of dancer, though I know that is not the intent behind the laws.
SJG
DrunkPretorian: If you think "conversate" is a word, you spend too much time with strippers! :) Also, if you "need a few drinks to loosen up", you just might be an alcoholic.
SJG
Good idea Subra on the vodka in a water bottle. I will employ that in my upcoming trip to FN clubs in Rancho Cordova CA
MrDeuce - glad to know there are places where nude and liquor are served.
SJG - interesting that no liquor has resulted in higher quality dancers in your case.
Subra - aren't you allowed to carry liquor on your own in a club that is not allowed to serve it?
whodey - good for you - I like some booze in me to loosen up.
I think it is hard to walk back morals laws.
Take drugs as an example. I am anti-drug but, in my opinion, drug war is a costly disaster. The libertarian attitude toward drugs would be "fuck it, if you can deal with drugs do what you want as long as you don't harm me or my property and if drugs ruin your life that was your choice".
The more practical attitude is that drugs have secondary effects on other people via crime and lost productivity etc. Those secondary effects are actually worse when you criminalize because of the black market. So it would seem sensible to legalize the more harmless drugs and have mandated treatment alternatives for more problematic drugs. Less ruining of people's lives, more freedom, and maybe even cheaper (prison is expensive!)
Details to be worked out by policy wonks.
But will a politician do that? If they do they are called soft on drugs by their opponents. The tide is turning for drugs but for other morals laws they aren't.
Most non strip club patron want two things: NIMBY and to feel like they're doing something - anything - to set the bad people on the right path. So something that sounds like it will do that, even if it's illogical, gets voted in. Then it is hard to get rid of.
How's that for a serious answer. I didn't even use the word "brilliant!"
Oops, I guess I just said brilliant ;)
Now that's brilliant!
To continue the topic from a different angle, I don't drink much so I'd rather see pussy and butthole than have a drink.
I also don't care if other people drink, as long as they don't drive under the influence. Or get obnoxious in a way that disturbs me or anybody else.
So, philosophically, I'm pro buttholes+bourbon. I just don't care enough to fight it personally. Give me a sexy girl's butthole to stare at and I'm happy. ;)
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SJG
1966 Martin Luther King and Stokely Carmichael Press Conference On The MARCH OF MISSISSIPP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LPaFXat…
I am enjoying PTs though. It’s a BYOB club so I can bring as much alcohol as I want. It’s nude optional so there will be some attractive dancers who would otherwise dance at Baby Dolls.
We have additional confirmation that lapdanceking82 = brilliant!
Did anybody click on shadowcat's porno link? I've learned the hard way not to click on shadowcat porn
I think shadowcat has a folder labeled "links to disturbing porno to link to as a joke"
Your a ways away from Harvey, Illinois. My guess is probably not, but you might still be able to swing some front room DFK along with a bunch of other front room action (like semi discreet HJ as it seems preferable to CBJ for most TUSCLers) as you probably won't get any meaningful ejaculation services in the chump station anymore.
I know they exist in other metros.
Thanks,
SJG
jamesD - " Most people are happy to sell out other peoples liberty."
classic
well i guess BYOB does control booze cost. +1 for that.
But TheFword and even Subra go to nude clubs where even BYOB is not permitted.
But even in places that advertise byob nude, you must make the effort the learn what they will allow. For example, byob in NJ is limited to beer and wine. Same holds true in some counties in SC. Also, even in areas where nude byob clubs are allowed, most club owners do not want to pass on the high margin alcohol sales. CT and MD are two huge examples of this, where byob clubs are few and far between even though it is allowed.
But as the OP pointed out, in most jurisdictions, including many lager metro areas, nude clubs may not serve or even allow alcohol. This leaves us choosing between nude juice bars and topless (or bikini/pastie in some areas) clubs that serve alcohol.
If I am forced to choose between topless with alcohol or nude juice bars, I'll choose the former every time. I find nude juice bars to be too quiet and depressing. Most of them don't bother having bars for the obvious reason, so it is often a bunch of quiet older men sitting at spaced out tables watching the stage intently, at least when they are not at the tip rail locked onto a girl's vagina with an intense death gaze. Too many of these places are quiet and feel a bit creepy to me. I've seen enough vaginas over the years that the sight of a few more is not enough, all by itself, to entice me into a club. I want the full social experience, including free flowing alcohol and pleasant conversations with dancers.
But of course to each his own.
SJG
Larry - yeah man !
SJG - as noted by others on this thread - restrictions around nudity and alcohol are varied - with a handful of places - like Florida having no restrictions. Texas doesn't require membership for BYOB clubs.