Thats a sure bet from my perspective. $1K for per month now with occasional gifts (19, former teen model, very pretty, needs money for school and doesnt want a real bf right now) but we click very well she likes my time with her. I would call that value the exception No limit to how often we see each other but my constraint is time I can get away to see her. In fact I see her again tonight :)
I would say in SA YMMV is even more prevalent than a club girl. They are as close to a civie as it gets, more discriminating for their partner than a dancer but less mercenary on support $ once she picks one.
It reminds me of the time I left my party favors in a hotel room with an escort. I returned and my favors were gone - and I had to drag a hooker out of the bathroom. I never got to fuck her either! It was a lose - lose proposition!
If they get your $$$ upfront - then they make you work to actually get the pussy!
Paying upfront is always a risky proposition and it requires some kind of trust which only is formed with history. I agree, usually just blindly paying a new girl up front is way too risky. Best to wait until you have that trust with the girl before proceeding with prepaying monthly support. Thats how its worked for me.
There are definately catfishers on SA. You cant trust anyone unseen and untested. It takes at least a few meet ups to the point of fs with me. Until then its pay as you go.
Some girls deal with the psychological aspect of p4p differently. Many dont want x service = y $. It makes them feel uncomfortable with the notion they are getting paid for just sex. They see it rightly or wrongly as support $ from their sd to just have a fun and exciting experience together (which includes sex if I am the sd). With a dancer who knows hustle she will more likely be ok with pay as you go p4p and maybe more exploitive of pls who pay in advance since she probably has done it before and gotten away with it in the safety of the club.
Just different girls in different worlds but mostly you just need to know your girl.
Twenty five...
I bet there are plenty of dancers that would be amenable to $2K a month
Not in my area...stripper's want that just for sex..not even sleep over...maybe one solid night of fun at best and that's iffy...hence why I've turned to things like SA...plus I'm tired of driving to follies four hours away
There are definately catfishers on SA. You cant trust anyone unseen and untested. It takes at least a few meet ups to the point of fs with me. Until then its pay as you go.
If I put a girl on salary like this it's because I've had several text, phone calls, dinner dates, overnight sex visits and click extremely well...then I'll subscribe for the massive discount
Haven't been quoted any numbers higher than this
But
Have seen some OK with a grand or fifteen hundred for the all month pussy pass
My girls are all green and from the age if twenty to thirty. All in the range of six to eight.
I basics just enjoy a solid seven with a goofy personality
In theory, it sounds like it could be quite the value play. However, I indulge in strippers for the sheer variety of it. At Diamond Dolls in Pompano, I can get FS from 10 different girls for that same amount. The other consideration is do you pay upfront or after the month ? If you pay her $2,000 upfront, and she wigs out. Do you have some collateral to collect ? Just playing devil's advocate.
And if you have to get a hotel room, say $100 if you can find a good deal, there's another $800 per month, or more if you try to hit it more than 8x per month. Plus, for this kind of deal, the girl is going to expect it to be long term, so you have to be able to sustain it.
And that would probably be my problem with an arrangement like that. If I've already seen someone enough to trust her to go on a monthly allowance, and then I see her enough in the first month to make the monthly allowance worth while, I'm probably going to be tired of her (or her of me) by the end of that first month on allowance. Plus, "getting your money's worth" can become a bit of an obsession, and you find you're scheduling your whole life around dates with your SB instead of using dates with SB to add quality to your life.
Present SB would be a club 7 or 8 body with an 8+ face. No drug use at all and going to college.
$1000 per month
I see her approximately 5x per month @ $70 hotel ($350 total)
Food/drinks and gifts @ $250 per month - we normally eat dinner in the room together and may share a bottle of wine.
Avg time spent per hook-up is 4 hours (20 hours total)
I reliably have two pops per meet-up
Doing the math on totals...
$320 per hook-up
$80 per hour
$160 per pop with everything on the menu
I think thats very reasonable and for me and sustainable (seeing her now for several months)
I am also giving her a new laptop for her birthday which she needs for college. I guess I have a soft spot for legit college girls going for a regular career job. Such a pl... ;)
A friend of mine who has a SB pays her $3000 per month but she owns her own home and has two teenage children. He visits during the day, has unlimited access, and they also occasionally go out for dinner, theater, etc. She's mid 30's and from the pictures I've seen would be an 8 in most clubs.
He loves that there's no drama, no strippershit, and a cultured woman for a professional man in his late 60's.
Gawker I did that only once for two months a while ago with someone almost the exact description and I was not very smart about it. She had her own place and was a 9 or 10 and frankly the best sex of my life. I liked her probably too much (if thats possible) and it put too much pressure on us trying to see each other more often than either one of us could work out. We ended up getting emotional with each other too and I had to walk away since it was getting too dramatic. That combined with too much pressure to meet with conflicting schedules and too much of my bankroll at stake forced me out. In that case p4p per session would have been a better plan and more sustainable but I was too eager, crazy and dumb. Yep...expensive lesson and I am sure plenty of folks here will certify my exceptional PL status now. As BJ says more $ than brains...
Writing this from one of our high-end strip clubs, but just had dinner with SA college girl. She's incredibly cute, 21, runs cross country, on scholarship pre-law at local private school. She grew up in San Francisco from affluent family. Could be ATF material.
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I would say in SA YMMV is even more prevalent than a club girl. They are as close to a civie as it gets, more discriminating for their partner than a dancer but less mercenary on support $ once she picks one.
It reminds me of the time I left my party favors in a hotel room with an escort. I returned and my favors were gone - and I had to drag a hooker out of the bathroom. I never got to fuck her either! It was a lose - lose proposition!
If they get your $$$ upfront - then they make you work to actually get the pussy!
Some girls deal with the psychological aspect of p4p differently. Many dont want x service = y $. It makes them feel uncomfortable with the notion they are getting paid for just sex. They see it rightly or wrongly as support $ from their sd to just have a fun and exciting experience together (which includes sex if I am the sd). With a dancer who knows hustle she will more likely be ok with pay as you go p4p and maybe more exploitive of pls who pay in advance since she probably has done it before and gotten away with it in the safety of the club.
Just different girls in different worlds but mostly you just need to know your girl.
Twenty five...
I bet there are plenty of dancers that would be amenable to $2K a month
Not in my area...stripper's want that just for sex..not even sleep over...maybe one solid night of fun at best and that's iffy...hence why I've turned to things like SA...plus I'm tired of driving to follies four hours away
There are definately catfishers on SA. You cant trust anyone unseen and untested. It takes at least a few meet ups to the point of fs with me. Until then its pay as you go.
One hundred percent agree...I do the same
Haven't been quoted any numbers higher than this
But
Have seen some OK with a grand or fifteen hundred for the all month pussy pass
My girls are all green and from the age if twenty to thirty. All in the range of six to eight.
I basics just enjoy a solid seven with a goofy personality
Hope this helps guys with my reports
Only worth it if more than an hour, which is probably the case.
And that would probably be my problem with an arrangement like that. If I've already seen someone enough to trust her to go on a monthly allowance, and then I see her enough in the first month to make the monthly allowance worth while, I'm probably going to be tired of her (or her of me) by the end of that first month on allowance. Plus, "getting your money's worth" can become a bit of an obsession, and you find you're scheduling your whole life around dates with your SB instead of using dates with SB to add quality to your life.
Present SB would be a club 7 or 8 body with an 8+ face. No drug use at all and going to college.
$1000 per month
I see her approximately 5x per month @ $70 hotel ($350 total)
Food/drinks and gifts @ $250 per month - we normally eat dinner in the room together and may share a bottle of wine.
Avg time spent per hook-up is 4 hours (20 hours total)
I reliably have two pops per meet-up
Doing the math on totals...
$320 per hook-up
$80 per hour
$160 per pop with everything on the menu
I think thats very reasonable and for me and sustainable (seeing her now for several months)
I am also giving her a new laptop for her birthday which she needs for college. I guess I have a soft spot for legit college girls going for a regular career job. Such a pl... ;)
He loves that there's no drama, no strippershit, and a cultured woman for a professional man in his late 60's.
Better choices online.