Lickit54's thread prompted me to post this. Last year, we went to Florida and stayed in New Smyrna Beach. I got a couple of free afternoons that I was able to spend at Diamond Dolls in Daytona Beach. It was a fun time.
This year, we are staying in Winter Haven. A veritable strip club desert. Nearest clubs are in Orlando, and even that wasteland is 40 miles away...
Help meeeee..... :--(
You could always slit your wrists. (:
^^^ What kind of life does SJG have after being dishonest and deceitful to his (ex)wife by spending her money on AMP whores behind her back?
What kind of life does SJG have after being dishonest and deceitful on TUSCL by talking about how to get FS from a stripper despite not even going to strip clubs?
Per Mapquest, Winter Haven to Tampa is about 50-miles, not sure if it's doable for you but Tampa is worth the drive for the most-part (Mons Venus and perhaps 2001).
What is there to do in Winter Haven?
I survived a very hard marriage. But I never for a moment disputed that SC's and AMP's were marital infidelity, and I never engaged in such except when I was convinced that salvaging the marriage was impossible. So I was just trying to stay sane and keep my hormones flowing. Never pretended that it was any other.
Long term commitment to infidelity and deception, and trying to play it both ways, no, that is not acceptable.
I have also always disputed the idea that SC's or AMP's are a good long term solution to anything. I have big big plans and I am deeply embedded in political affairs. So I protect the separation of my f2f life. I don't play, people who try to fuck with me are already regretting it.
SC's and AMP's are very important. But, my long term plans do not depend upon either of these for regular sexual gratification. To depend on those for long term sexual gratification would be as stupid as making a long term commitment to things like alcohol or street drugs.
If he's "spending time with family" the way I'm having to this week, then getting to spend a little time in a strip club may be the only thing STOPPING him from slitting his wrists.
The anticipation of the date I have Friday night with my SA girl is the only thing keeping me sane at the moment.
^^^^ They have marriage counselors, and they have divorce lawyers. These are the people who can help with such problems.
Likely need to try one. If it does not work, then use the other.
I for one say that we should start collecting some money to send some of these strippers to school. That way the will be able to help guys with their problems.
P4P sex does not really help beyond just trying to stay alive and sane. Alcohol and drugs do not help. But marriage councilors and divorce attorneys can.
What else can we do? Outlaw marriage?
SJG
In Mario Puzo's novel "The Godfather", they talked about having a book across the street from the beach. Guys would come up from the beach and the family and place a bet.
There were other guys 'who had given up on family life', and were placing much larger bets.
SJG
^ In other words, SJG just leads a pathetic life of being judgemental and assuming on the internet about a strip club life that he isn't even a part of.
^ He's a broke ass creep on a bike riding past strip clubs and AMPs that he can no longer go to. He ran out of money and/or he got himself banned. He looks on with envy, fantasizing but never actualizing GFEs with women he can never have without paying. He lost his wife and he has ED.
But by golly he's still got dreams of that organization. And he's got us as his TUSCL support system.
^^^^^ Ha Ha Ha. Breaking with the middle class means breaking with middle class thinking. Some of that has been aided by times spent with strippers I have known, people living far more bohemian lives than I.
But the process does continue.
I do remain surprised by the narrowness of perspective of most of the tuscl members, they almost always being white males.
I am also aghast at the commitment some show to drugs and alcohol, and how they seem to use sex in a similar way. I am not going to live like this, and this is only part of why I am involved in radical political projects right now.
SJG
Piketty, Stiglitz, Krugman, Identity Politics, extremely insightful youtube.com
Naah, we'll watch you try to in the most pathetic way a natural for a stupid POS like you. ROTFLMMFAO Come on fag, kill yourself, you are wasting good oxygen. LMAO
Solution to boredom? Well what you are describing is just escapism, and that is not a solution to anything.
Reason they are not a long term solution is that it is better to know people, and for men and women to work in partnership. In most countries other than the US, well off men have mistresses, not 'ATF's'.
Strip clubs are good for:
showing a sexual aesthetic, in the dolling up and in the bodily openness. But you imbibe it and try to make it part of your personal life.
And for those types who want for some reason to know strippers, they offer that.
But notice that neither of the above requires going to strip clubs very often or as an annual total spending very much more.
The girls in AMPs are not slaves. They live just like you and I, some better.
Some to escort sessions to get money to pay their mortgages. Hard to beat that.
SJG
Life is not booring. A bad marriage can be worse than booring.
I am educating myself and I believe that life long education is necessary. I recommend it. And I have very big plans which I am pursuing.
Strip clubs will be more important when I am traveling to expand a business, entering new places and wanting to connect with local people. Strippers will be one of the types of local people I will seek.
SJG
Dude you one creepy ass weirdo
Well, shit. I thought I was just making a slightly amusing post. Thanks, SJG, for blowing the "meaning" totally out of proportion.
Lighten up, butthead.
LOL @ATACdawg, SJG will take any thread and derail it into his own self-aggrandizing points.
" ^ He's a broke ass creep on a bike riding past strip clubs and AMPs that he can no longer go to. He ran out of money and/or he got himself banned. He looks on with envy, fantasizing but never actualizing GFEs with women he can never have without paying. He lost his wife and he has ED.
But by golly he's still got dreams of that organization. And he's got us as his TUSCL support system."
I’ve been to Winter Haven - and it’s a nice town. It’s no haven for dirty girls, but it seems like a great town.
I hope things work out for you!
what Papi said. go to Tampa.
Seriously, I've been to Winter Haven, and it really is an OK place. Yeah, maybe I can't watch the hot girls waterskiing at Cypress Gardens anymore, but maybe there will be some hot ticket girls at Legoland!!!! ;-)
LMAO and if you get real desperate you can build a LEGO strip club.
But I can relate. I am on vacation in San Diego an passed Cheetahs on the way home from lunch with the family. I had to pretend not to notice.
By tomorrow I'll be back home and will see my ATF DS or backup CF. I made sure to have some vacation days open for clubbing.
@taxi_driver posted -> "SJG - You're making the assumption that clubbing is one's only hobby and that they don't have the other things in life that you speak of. I think you're ignorant."
^ SJG does nothing but make asinine assumptions in order to set up his self-aggrandizing points. He's a master of the straw man argument. (Not to mention he's a bonafide narcissist.)
ATACdawg, you are a creepy weirdo. You should lighten up. If you post something, not everyone is going to agree with you.
Some of us do our best to live within our integrity, even when times are tough.
taxi-driver, you are the one who spoke about strip clubs as a remedy for boredom. Even by TUSCL standards, that sounds really pathetic.
SJG
You could alway go to Legiland. ;)
^^^Legoland
Don't really go along with the idea of 'entertainment', not in strip clubs and not anywhere else either. And besides, strip clubs are too expensive, and what they offer can be life transforming. As far as Winter Haven or anywhere else, vacations do not solve major life problems.
SJG
^ "He's a broke ass creep on a bike riding past strip clubs and AMPs that he can no longer go to. He ran out of money and/or he got himself banned. He looks on with envy, fantasizing but never actualizing GFEs with women he can never have without paying. He lost his wife and he has ED.
But by golly he's still got dreams of that organization. And he's got us as his TUSCL support system."
mdfmk888, you are the fucking idiot, you don't understand posts which go beyond the 3rd grade level.
SJG
^^^^^^ Some people say I live in my mom's basement. Others say I ride around on a Huffy bicycle with the spot welded in drop outs. Now you say I am a spoiled rich white kid.
So what are you, a kid made mean by having to fight against pit bulls? Or are you just someone who can't help but going into negative meta-narrative when you encounter someone who does not think the way you do?
SJG
Beyoncé - Sweet Dreams youtube.com
Beyoncé - ***Flawless (feat. Nicki Minaj) (On The Run Tour - Paris) youtube.com
King Crimson, live Hyde Park, 1969 youtube.com
I'm not the one who got belligerent.
Why do you think I'm spoiled?
Why do you think I'm rich?
Why do you think I'm white?
Why do you think I'm a kid?
If you don't mind my asking, what do you consider yourself?
SJG
Lamb Lies Down On Broadway youtube.com
Do you consider Donald J. Trump to be a " spoiled rich white kid"?
SJG
Edwyn Collins youtube.com
Black Keys youtube.com
Miles Kane youtube.com
White Stripes youtube.com
Still he grew up as spoiled rich white kid, and he hasn't done anything to give anyone reason to see him as anything other than that.
SJG
The End of Public Education, 12/27 show tunein.com
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White Stripes youtube.com
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Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow - Amy Winehouse youtube.com
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Have You Seen The Saucers? youtube.com
SJG rides a huffy with no seat just the post.
^^^^^^^ What kind of a life does one have when they are committed to dishonesty and deceit?
SJG
Krugman youtube.com
Pikette, Krugman, Stiglitz youtube.com