SW and TUSCL: United at last
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SelinaM-->"How do bird-brained owners like this stay in business?
My club has been slow all month, really badly to the point where we either have 25 girls desperate to make their bills or 3 girls because they all said "fuck this" and stayed home. Ya know? The club is even trying to get us to draw customers by giving out a cash prize to whoever gets customers to write the most Yelp reviews, ffs.
Today they announced a 10% price raise. VIPs went from $100 to $110, etc. up the board to $550 instead of $500. Why?!
We don't have a 'dances are too cheap" problem, we have a customer volume problem. Instead of solving that, let's bleed the guys we do have, who will then start going 10 miles the other way to the other club.
Has anyone ever seen a price increase NOT badly impact business? I've only experienced 2 and both were very hard on it. Argh." ----->
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She's exactly right. I've seen it a bunch of times too. I don't know who I have less respect for, the owners, or the customers who just stay and pay. Usually, each one of these slowdown-price-gauges results in long-term lower customer volume
My club has been slow all month, really badly to the point where we either have 25 girls desperate to make their bills or 3 girls because they all said "fuck this" and stayed home. Ya know? The club is even trying to get us to draw customers by giving out a cash prize to whoever gets customers to write the most Yelp reviews, ffs.
Today they announced a 10% price raise. VIPs went from $100 to $110, etc. up the board to $550 instead of $500. Why?!
We don't have a 'dances are too cheap" problem, we have a customer volume problem. Instead of solving that, let's bleed the guys we do have, who will then start going 10 miles the other way to the other club.
Has anyone ever seen a price increase NOT badly impact business? I've only experienced 2 and both were very hard on it. Argh." ----->
********* end of SW quote
She's exactly right. I've seen it a bunch of times too. I don't know who I have less respect for, the owners, or the customers who just stay and pay. Usually, each one of these slowdown-price-gauges results in long-term lower customer volume
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It will actually likely lead to an effective price cut, since less customer competition will give the strippers less leverage to demand the higher-priced options. E.g., instead of spending on the $550 VIP because there are 2 or 3 other guys who would spend up to $250, you're the big spender at $250 and end up saving $300 and are likely to get a similar experience to what would have cost $500 before the price increase.
I will get 4-6 warm up dances at $10 with my fave who works me up to go to VIP and then I go and spend more money in there on her. If the initial dance was $35 I may never have met her because I probably wouldn't go to the club in the first place.
Difference in my spending
$0-35 expensive club prices
$150-200 reasonable club prices
If you are a dancer, where do you want to dance? And I'm only one customer. With the right game you can make bank.
I think several guys have already mentioned it - but lowering prices might bring in more business and $$$ as the customers may buy more dances - and spend more $$$ while in the club.
The simple model of charging the current 4 customers $25 instead of $20 - per dance - might not get $100 vs $80. Some customers might not get any dances - so the impact of a price increase might reduce revenue.
I think they need to determine the reason for the lack of customers - and then make a change based on their findings.
I can't speak on it directly; it's been years since I last visited. But this did the exact opposite of encouraging me to give it a try.
Too bad. Used to be a great club.
Eventually, the girls all moved on to other places. The club continued to raise prices up to $20 & added a once per visit fee of $10 to use the lap dance area. I stopped going in aside from an occasional visit a few times a year at most, when I do go its always pretty dead. I've even been in on a few Fri/Sat nights and its been less busy that the previous day shifts.
The one exception is Tuesday's. They still do $10 dances on Tuesday, and its always busiest on Tuesday. It's not just because its the guys don't want to pay for the more expensive dances, but that's also the day they have the best/most girls for the most part. It's amazing to me that mgmt hasn't caught on & done the math. There's no way the loss off the extra dance fee's on aren't more than offset by bar sales on Tuesdays. The girls obviously have figured out they do better selling more dances at lower prices. It's a sad situation where a bunch of strippers catch on to something faster than management does.
Value combined with service works. Hot looking, high mileage strippers for $10 a dance.
Of course, this will vary by market. If there are 10 other comparable clubs within easy driving distance, this kind of decision will probably just doom the club.
"1. the customers will see you as luxury."
No. Just because something has a high price tag does not make it a luxury. Of course most luxury items have a high price tag but thats not the same.
"2. you will make more money for the same amount of effort"
More money for the same effort but net gain will be less.
More money for the same amount of time spent on paid dances. That's not the same as money for effort.
Having to talk to 10 guys to sell two dances and getting rejected 9 times sounds like more effort and emotional wear to me than having to talk to 5 guys to sell ten dances.
Improvise. Adapt. Overcome. If that's good enough for the Marines, by gum, it's good enough for tuscl.
I agree that one should always look for advantage in change, even if that change on the surface seems to be negative -- but I'm also saying that 100% of the time, IME raising prices during a downturn reduces quality of the experience. Still, I'm always on the lookout for less customer competition, and even among a less attractive shift, "all it takes is one", as they say in PL-land. I agree ppwh that in theory, a 10% price rise shouldn't get you screaming that the sky is falling, and I don't doubt you might have a different experience than I have; but the clubs here that have done that have not fared well
I do think the action more likely to lead to better experiences is, if you're the type of PL who tends to get comfortable with a small number of clubs (guilty as charged), this is the perfect motivator to give some other clubs a chance.
This is why the best of the best are the clubs where the owners just get as many girls there as possible, and then just look the other way. Experienced dancers have always insisted that this is where they can get the most money.
Our Mexican Bar underground sometimes is like this, but still usually not like some of the wildest places we read about in other parts of the country.
At the other extreme, totally planed out psychologically, is Deja Vu and its various "Business Models", always running more restricted than they really need to for that metro's LE, just so they can rake in more money, taking it off of CHUMPS who are unable to see how rigged the situation is, and all the ways they are being played!
SJG
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This is absolutely awesome:
https://youtu.be/rXJQb7aIxfk?t=5m56s
I agree 100% but we are talking about sw and "stripper logic".
IDK - having 10 guys to potentially sell dances to sounds better than having 5 guys to potentially sell dances to - I'd think the former would be a better sales proposition
Agreed. I was getting at the hypothetical dancer not having time to talk to the other 5 guys because she was busy with paying customers.
SJG