Viagra, Cialis, Levitra
DougS
Florida
Bones: Okay, you asked for it!
I, like Bones, use the these "recreational drugs" in order to prolong the fun, on ocassion - especially when OTCing.
I've strictly bought via prescription, and financed solely with my insurance. With my insurance, I only have to pay $10 for the entire bottle! BUT, the bad news is, my insurance, like most insurance companies, limit you to SIX pills a month. Yowza, that's sometimes less than needed - even for those of us that don't get out to the club (or hotel) that often.
Like Bones stated, you have to be careful if you have high blood pressure. It's also recommended that you don't imbibe too much alcohol, as it tend to heighten the side effects (it also tends to lower the "front effects"). The side effects are fairly minimal, and as Bones one of the main symptoms is a "flush feeling". Usually my face will become slightly reddened, and will feel a bit like a minor wind burn for a time - in my experience, lasting longer than the few minutes. I also usually get a mild headache, which seems to be worse the more I drink (fortunately, I usually drink very little, if at all).
A few other potential side effects that I don't think I've experienced are a slight tint to your vision (I believe it's a pink tint) that you might see if you look at something that normally is white, it might appear pinkish. Another weird things is your eyeball might appear to be slightly bluish, instead of white, but who's going to notice that in a dark club - especially when your eyes are already red from the smoke and drinking.
I've tried all three, and I think Viagra might be a tad more reliable, but I also like the convenience of Cialis, where you can take it early in the evening and if you don't get down to serious playing right away, it doesn't matter, where the other two might not provide jump-starting ability if you wait too long.
Bones: You've purchase from the link that you posted? Have you always received the REAL thing from them? (or did you get the imitation Chinese version?)
I, like Bones, use the these "recreational drugs" in order to prolong the fun, on ocassion - especially when OTCing.
I've strictly bought via prescription, and financed solely with my insurance. With my insurance, I only have to pay $10 for the entire bottle! BUT, the bad news is, my insurance, like most insurance companies, limit you to SIX pills a month. Yowza, that's sometimes less than needed - even for those of us that don't get out to the club (or hotel) that often.
Like Bones stated, you have to be careful if you have high blood pressure. It's also recommended that you don't imbibe too much alcohol, as it tend to heighten the side effects (it also tends to lower the "front effects"). The side effects are fairly minimal, and as Bones one of the main symptoms is a "flush feeling". Usually my face will become slightly reddened, and will feel a bit like a minor wind burn for a time - in my experience, lasting longer than the few minutes. I also usually get a mild headache, which seems to be worse the more I drink (fortunately, I usually drink very little, if at all).
A few other potential side effects that I don't think I've experienced are a slight tint to your vision (I believe it's a pink tint) that you might see if you look at something that normally is white, it might appear pinkish. Another weird things is your eyeball might appear to be slightly bluish, instead of white, but who's going to notice that in a dark club - especially when your eyes are already red from the smoke and drinking.
I've tried all three, and I think Viagra might be a tad more reliable, but I also like the convenience of Cialis, where you can take it early in the evening and if you don't get down to serious playing right away, it doesn't matter, where the other two might not provide jump-starting ability if you wait too long.
Bones: You've purchase from the link that you posted? Have you always received the REAL thing from them? (or did you get the imitation Chinese version?)
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Really, I've worried about it too. I don't exactly know how it fits with human biology, this thing by which "being yourself" makes you unhappy. Or, to put it differently, fitting in to your culture somehow drives you against your own grain. I don't imagine that dogs and springboks experience such grief over a little silly biological act that amounts to an elaborate sneeze and a lot of cuddling. Maybe they do, I dunno, I haven't evern fucked a springbok.
I'm glad I never married. There are women in my past whom I "loved" and learned a lot from. Though from some of them, the learning was by negative example only -- here's a girl who doesn't have the IQ necessary for me to partner with her, but lo and behold I'm her long-term boyfriend anyway, well then, guess I have to learn to tolerate her mental slowness and value her for something else, a positive lesson in the end but a frustrating experience in the middle. And other similar experiences. Girls clinically depressed, on Xanax or something; people who can't hold down a job because of alcohol habits; etc. Always I learned tolerance.
The one girl I really valued was actually eight months older than me. As is the case with all my ex-girlfriends (except one lunatic) I'm still on good terms with her. I valued her sanity, her soul, her lack of princessy-ness. She was hot, intelligent, funny, totally voracious in bed. And I loved her doggie. But then, she had a huge butt (to me) and I would sometimes look at the preposterous outfits she chose that she mistakenly thought accentuated her assets but which actually made her look inept, lower-class, trampy. And I'd have to say to myself, "I'm a visual person. I wish I were blind, because I could stay with this woman for my whole life." I posted a pic of her once (with face blurred) and everyone responded, "Dude, she's hot. But yeah, that's a fat ass." Too bad I had to look at it, it ruined an otherwise excellent relationship.
Maybe I need cataracts?
I'm not sure what the answer is to the conundrum that you raised, but it certainly struck a chord with me.
Otherwise known as, the leading cause of erectile dysfunction in men over forty.
Why would I WANT to get married? :)
Your are not that old. My ED resulted from the fact that the bitch I was married to couldn't arouse me. After 10 years of a sexless and useless marriage, I turned to strip clubs for some fun. I still had problems getting it up because at first what I was doing scared the shit out of me. Cheating. Secondly, there was not emotional envolvement with the strippers. Thirdly, I am a heavy moker and suffer from hight pressure. It is well under control with medication but that medication also has side effects on getting it up. If I quit smoking, I could probabbly drop the MEDS and get along without the Viagra etc. Alcohol also a problem when it comes to ED. That is why I don't drink when I go to a strip club or thinkg that I am going to get laid. I'll do my drinking afterwards.
Like has been mentioned, these drugs do not get you turned on. You still have to have stimulus. Whatever you prefer.
I remember going to the emergency room 3 year ago, on an unrelated matter. The paramedics gathered up all of my prescriptions to give to the hospital staff, so that they would know what I was taking, If I was incoherent. The M.D. that was checking me out, Looked to be older than me. He noticed the Viagra and remarked "Good stuff, I use it myself". Not to worry, it happens to all men. Some sooner than others but it happens to all of us. 40 Years ago my company would not pay for normal child birth. Only 2 years that I have ever been able to wright of medical expenses when filing my income taxes. But that had no problem paying for my vesectomy. Now a days it seems like they know that by keeping us sexually active it is going to save them money. Not to worry...
I'm 36 and going to see the Urologist for the first time next week. "He" just doesn't work like he used to when I was in my 20's. I discussed it with my family doctor about 6 months and he said lose some weight and you'll be fine. Well I've lost 40+ lbs and everything is not fine. He also did the blood work ups for diabetes, high blood pressure, etc, etc and all was fine.
My problem is not necessarily getting an erection but maintaining it to ejaculation during intercourse. I can usually get it hard enough to manually finish but not quite hard enough to insert again. This doesn't happen all the time probably about 50%. This isn't something I discuss with friends and co workers about, so is this normal for a guy approaching middle age?
How about recovery time? Does Viagra and the others help in that regard as well?
I'm I freaking out over nothing or is this all normal?
Thanks all
D.
Like Chandler eluded to, when I get LDs, my goal is not to nut as fast as I can. Typically, if I'm getting LDs, I'm getting them for HOURS. During my last half-dozen trips to a club, I litterally spent 8 hours in VIP - that's 8 hours solid of "play time". So, prolonging the climax is the goal. Actually, I prefer NOT to leave with a wet spot.
Additionally, I get plenty of enjoyment out of those marathon sessions, but being the sensitive guy that I am, giving the dancer something hard to rub on so that SHE gets some enjoyment out of it, too.
Disclaimer: I don't know anything about the medical effects of viagra in women or testosterone but was just using it as an example. I am not a doctor.
And Yoda...if I ever find myself in bed with a middle-aged man, I'm gonna have a lot more issues going on that just wondering about Viagra!
As for "recreational use". Geeezzz, the stuff is about ten dollars per pill, I wouldn't waste it on lap dances or a little rub and tug in the VIP room. Besides, as most guys will tell you, Viagra keeps you hard but also makes it a lot harder to ejaculate. This is great when you want to boink all night but not so good when you are paying for stimulation one song at a time
I can't tell how much Lopaw is being ironic. For anybody who really does have to use Viagra, I'm glad it's available for them. I'll be extra glad if I ever develop a disfunction. I chose not to continue using it recreationally partly because I don't want to become dependent on a pill in order to feel aroused until I really need to.
For those of you who are on the fence I would remind you that you may not be as studley as you think you are. About a year ago I was chatting with one of my favorite dancers and the topic of Viagra "came up". She was curious about it, her BF was about the same age as I am and I asked her if he had ever used it. She replied no but she wished he would try it...
As far as the stuffy nose, it can be counteracted with a SINGLE shot of Afrin nasal inhaler.
Lopaw......sorry but when you get as old as we do, the desire is there, but the equipment just needs a bit of waking up. No matter how old a woman gets, the equipment will ALWAYS work.
Fondl: Ditto. 'Cept ignore the gap part, since you weren't concerned about it...
It seems to me, the pills would increase the amount of sex I want, thus EXACERBATING rather than alleviating the frustration. Why would I want to do that? The LAST thing in the world that I want, is to want EVEN MORE of it, but still get the same ol' lame ol' amount that I'm currently getting, which isn't enough in the first place.
See where I'm coming (erm ... heh) from? Your thoughts?
It seems to me, the pills would increase the amount of sex I want, thus EXACERBATING rather than alleviating the frustration. Why would I want to do that? The LAST thing in the world that I want, is to want EVEN MORE of it, but still get the same ol' lame ol' amount that I'm currently getting, which isn't enough in the first place.
See where I'm coming (erm ... heh) from? Your thoughts?
Cialis also seems to work much longer and as a side effect it also shrinks the prostate gland for those of us with prostatitis.
Just for fun, try giving 50 mg of Viagra to your partner with their permission of course. It intensifies a woman's orgasm. My SO really likes it from time to time.
Alcohol will destroy their effects. The first time I tried Viagra, I had been sober for several weeks. I was tipping a dancer on stage and got a rock hard boner in seconds. She noticed.
When I was 18, I could drink and fuck all night. Now it is one or the other. I pop a pill before hand and do my drinking afterwards.
With pill in hand (okay, in stomach by way of mouth), give it a shot. It should at least help you, getting, maintaining and recovering. Nothing to lose, a lot to gain!
Next, I took a 2x4 board section and drilled ten holes in it in a line using a drill press down to about 1/2" depth, with a 1/4" drill bit.
Then, I bought a 500 pack of empty gelatin capsules from GNC and put ten of the bottom halves in the holes I drill in the 2x4 section.
I then put 50mg of Viagra (sildafil) powder in the capsules that I measured out for each dose into the bottom halves using a small funnel I made out of paper. 50mg is good enough for me, but you can experiment with your own dosage...try not to exceed 100mg because that is what the commercial pill uses.
Finally I put the tops firmly on the bottoms of the capsules and dumped them out on to a table by turning the 2x4 over.
2) Yup, I use empty capsules.
3) Since the supplier is in the UK, there's no evidence to come back to you as far as the US is concerned. The chemical is shipped discreetly in a yellow envelope with the powder in a ziploc bag labeled "Glutamate 2g"
sorry for the delay, I don't check this board very often.
Also, it looks like elitenet is in the process of having a merger with another company and should be shipping again in like a week. If I find another supplier quickly, I'll let you guys know.
You can get 40 Generic Cialis doses for ~$53 which is $1.33/dose
Or if you make your own pills like I do you can get the bulk powder here for 20gr. for $96 which, if you're making 20mg doses would be enough for 1000 doses or 9.6 cents per dose.
To me, I think it's worth the money for the convenience of actual pills.
Gotta give you credit, though.. sounds like you have it down to a science. Do you don hospital whites with hair net and slippers when you are in your laboratory?
you can see at the bottom for bulk pricing, it starts at 4 packs and up.
However, it's not cost effective to only have the machines that produce sildenafil citrate run only during Pfizer's production of the drug, so the companies keep the machines running to so they don't lose money by keeping the machines down. Ironically, they get about the the same amount of money selling the bulk powder and generics as the do selling sildenafil to Pfizer.
I have a friend that works as a chemical engineer in pharmaceuticals and that's how they explained it and it makes pretty good sense.
You buy something cheap, if it works you buy more.
That's what I did, and it's great.