I always try to protect my dancers - rarely mention a name - or make it obvious who the dancer may be - I know most pl's in here want specifics but do you think you owe it to the girl to protect her from management discipline? what do you think?
I don't think you owe the girl anything.... she has lied to you from the minute you met her, no reason to shield her from management. Now we don't want anyone cutting in to our opportunities to get at that pussy, but that is protecting me, I'm not worried about that lying whore.
Yeah, no need to point out a dancer specifically in the context of very high mileage, that's b/w her and her custy - at best maybe share her name over a PM vs broadcasting it to the masses via a review.
Its not a good practice and is a breach of trust unless she thinks its ok in advance. I only have outed the problem ROB dancers. That is really the most important information IMHO.
We should protect dancers unless they are ROBs. In the case of ROBs, the best thing to do is talk to management directly. If you don't get a satisfactory response, then you may out them in a review. As for non-ROBs, it's nasty (and also stupid) to reveal their names and tell things about them that may get them fired.
I think it’s best to be less specific if you have a good time with a dancer. You don’t need to say a specific name - or offer enough description to out the dancer.
Some dancer mentions - can be safe. If a dancer is very nice to you - or she works to make your experience great (without extras) - it could be a good mention.
Right on Daddillac,but you left out thieving whore.I had a cunt stay the weekend and put my valuables and important documents behind a locked door.I don't owe them shit.
I am very protective of dancers who give me good time or break rules for my benefit. The ROBs not so much. My CF whom I know her real name I would protect that with my life. As long as she is good to me I will be good to her.
I've had a few ask me to mention their names in reviews. "I could use the business" but I have never done so and mentioned any specifics about them. 99.9% of the time I never mention dancer names. The other .01% are ROBs.
Out the ROBs. Don't need them in the clubs. Management doesn't seem to care about them as they stick around forever, but they are bad for business. They don't do very well, so they don't bring in the club money, and i bet if they have no problem ROBbing customers, they going try everything under the book to ROB the club as well. They also cause customers to waste their money which really turns off the customer to the club itself and even other dancers making it worse for everyone.
But don't snitch on the girls that are GGG. Usually they are better for business, especially if they are hot as they drive a lot of demand, but usually only dance/VIP with a few customers leaving more customers for other girls (customers can wait on the her all they want, but she is usually locked down) and even other girls for more customers (since the other girls aren't dancing for her regulars, they are slightly more available to the non regulars). So in essence a hot dirty dancer raises the tide (a rising tide lifts all boats) for all the dancers and customers as well as make a ton of money for the club. And yet them jealous bitches just hate on them and try to get them fired...
Expose the scammers. Other than that, only give general description of service and identity. Giving details beyond that can ruin the club experience by getting the good dancers, and the club, in trouble. Don’t kill the golden goose.
I can agree with not putting their names out for different reasons..... but breaking trust? I learned the hard way not to trust anything coming out of a strippers mouth unless it's my cock.
As customers, none of these dancers are our dancers. We rent their time. For the naming names, I just go with whatever I think should be in a review as I write it. If I use a name in a review, it's for something I thought was interesting not for something to get them singled out.
I know my ATF DS full name and how to find her on all her social media. She trusts me with this information and I would never violate that trust. All she knows about me is my real first name. I usually call her by her stripper name but in private I will use her real name. All I ever want to know from a stripper is her real first name and only if I am her regular. I don't really want or care to know more.
I seldom go into graphic specifics. I Also seldom give out a dancers name.
For two reasons:
LE may be reading and I may wish to go see her again
I do not make it a point to remember names like them.
Once I depart club I remember points about the club to give a review but names are not important for an informative review.
I always try to remember ROB's to warn fellow Tusclers off.
I try to never mention names of dancers especially when associated with specifics. I don't want to get them in trouble with their club, their loser boyfriends, the police, or just creepers. I will mention names with ROB's.
It will spook a woman if random guys keep showing up, ask for her and for the same extras. Then she changes location or "goes on vacation" - I definitely saw this happen in massage parlor reviews so I assume it can happen with clubs.
A guy who can't keep his mouth shut deserves to have his balls kicked in, preferably before he accidentally (I say accidentally because the odds of it happening on purpose are low) breeds another simpering weak little pussy just like him. Seriously now, 40-60+ y.o. guys putting the business of a 20-30+ year old girl out there just boggles my mind.
But with that said, I make an exception for blatant ROBs. I'm not talking about the semi-ROBs, or the bad attitude girls, etc. I mean the girls who pull a complete scam. In all of the reviews I've posted on here, I've only done that once, but she was beyond bad and had been running scams all over town for years.
My point exactly, I will not give out specifics of the dancers, this is to protect my ability to get more from them later.... it has nothing to do with protecting them from anything
I guess I'll be the only contrarian. I try really hard to protect the dancers, but if we aren't going to name names and talk about extras in our reviews, then that reduces TUSCL to nothing more than a website for outing ROBs. Even if we use euphemisms, or if we speak in general terms, the management, LE, other PLs, other dancers, etc., will all know what we mean anyway. I say things like "I left happy," but everyone knows what I mean. Having said that, I will sometimes ask a stripper directly whether she wants me to write a review and what I can include in it. But what are we accomplishing by hiding this?
I’d never out a girl unless she was a ROB I understand @Dadilacs anger I’d be seething if I had happen to me what happened to him I believe in the old adage about “time wounds all heels” as well as the other one about “time healing all wounds”
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Honestly, i'm fine with only all the true ROBs being outed, since they are the only consistent thing to me. You might think someone is a great dancer, but if i try her, i might think something completely different. But i will be glad not to have wasted a single dime on the ROB. That doesn't mean you can't share the good details. It should be given to those that ask privately if you feel that it's worth sharing.
Also i tend to be careful with my descriptions based on the "average" or "common" contact/mileage/extras level at the particular club. If the club is just a thinly disguised whorehouse, i have no problem recommending specific dancers. However, i won't even use general euphemisms if i'm describing a low contact air dance club where a particular girl could easily get fired if "all" of the other jealous girls there are doing their boring thing, but only the fun girl is making money, and they think it's her fault. It isn't though...
I can think of a few things, any number of which are real concerns held by girls that I deal with.
1. They don't want problems with other girls.
2. They don't want problems with management, who often explicitly prohibit these activities while in reality looking the other way.
3. They don't want SOs to find out.
4. They don't want to be targeted by LE.
5. They don't want every dipshit with a computer saying, "Well you did XYZ for the tuscl dude called dipshit#1million.
Those are just a few things off the top of my head.
Speaking of dipshit#1million, there used to be a screen name around here promoting a site dedicated to reviewing strippers. What this retard didn't seem to comprehend is the potential chilling effect that this could have had on some of the fun that we have. Not all of us club in metro Detroit. Some of us are in areas where spotlights being shined on particular girls and/or clubs can have consequences.
It's amazing how fucking lazy some guys are. It's not enough to lead them to the club and give them enough "read between the lines" material to get them started. Some guys actually need us to find the specific girls for them. Next they'll be asking other tusclers to unzip them and put the girls' mouths on their cocks for them.
BurlingtonHF is right. The ROBs can be outed here - but dancers who perform and provide full services can’t be mentioned (in the reviews). However, if you’ve written a review, and another user wants to learn more, additional information can be provided in a private message. Since extras can get dancers (and clubs) into trouble, it’s best to not mention the names in reviews or discussions. It can also be risky to provide this information to a new, untrusted, and inexperienced member, as that person might not fully understand how to conduct themselves in certain club situations.
I think ROBs should be outed as public service to the other PLs.
I also think it is fine to prop some dancerssuch as:
Dancer A is the prettiest stripper I've seen in a long time. Or:
I really enjoyed spending time with Dancer B.
But no to outing a stripper for pushing the boundaries. I think it would be okay to provide a bit of intel to fellow members that you trust though, but only via PM.
I don't publish names to protect my interests.... I dont give a flying fuck about why she does not want to be outed. Caring about them is the first step towards getting your ass handed to you, they don't care about you at all, just your money....
rickdugan said it best. I was thinking a lot of the same things as I was reading this discussion.
I am with the majority here. I don't mention dancer names in my reviews. I do give a description of what the dancer looked like, but I try to be vague enough where several girls in the club on any given shift could fit the description.
I have been very fortunate to avoid the ROBs, but if I do deal with one, I certainly will out her in a review so that others can avoid them.
With the reviews I've read for clubs in my area, it seems most of the ones that mention dancer names are from TUSCL members that don't read these discussion boards and/or the # of reviews they've written can be counted on one hand.
One question I got from reading the comments on this discussion. Why would anyone ever mention to a dancer anything about writing a review? It is not like you actually need their permission to write a review. If you want to write a review, it is your right to do so. Just don't be a dumbass and put anyone at risk of getting in trouble.
I've mentioned names of dancers who I liked. But never gave specifics or said something like 'She made sure I left happy'. Just wanted to point out a positive experience and hope that maybe others might check out my recommendations.
@Papi, looking over the comments again it was shadow's comment that had me ask that. For some reason I thought someone else mentioned talking to dancers about writing reviews.
I will mention names of dancers I got dances with if I just got a regular dance on the floor. Or if I know the name of a dancer I saw even though i didn't get dances with them I'll mention I saw them so guys know what day they work.
If I've had extra fun, I will keep their ID's under wraps.
Okay - I guess I am in agreement with most - protect your faves. I have no problem with someone outing a Rob - I would never disagree with that. Just think it is wise not to put a good dancer in harms way - for no reason. Owners and Managers do check these sites more than you think. Why fuck up a good thing??..
@s275ironman, I sometimes ask or mention it out of common courtesy. These are always dancers whom I know and who I have a good time with. Some of them like the idea, others don't want the publicity. In these cases, I abide by their wishes. Of course I wouldn't ask the ROBs. They get outed eventually whether they like it or not.
Anyways, you said you agreed with rickdugan. Well, that was his point. Don't put people's business out into the street (unless they want you to).
On the other hand, many posts here act like other posters are telling the truth. If I wanted to get even with a dancer or club that was under scrutiny, I could create a new user name and make it sound like I was a newbie listing dancer names saying she ave me a really good time and a great BJ making it all up to get even. Then I could crate a second user name and almost confirm it. Then 2 fake revenge reviews to get even with a dancer or club. That's why LE can't trust anything written here. They have to investigate. However whatever is posted here could launch an investigation if the local LE didn't think they already knew everything. Now if someone really wanted to get nasty and knew a dancers full name, they could post it all. I wouldn't do that unless she scammed me or attempted to and I knew her name and was really upset.
That's the situation I'm in.... but I'm not going to do that because I care about her kids..... fuck what happens to that lying whore.... but her kids don't deserve that
I get it. That bitch took you to the cleaners nut there is no reason to think every stripper is the same way. I have met plenty who are decent girls and not trying to take unfair advantage of me. A simple barter and exchange of fair value. I think the trouble starts when you think the more you give her the more she will appreciate you. I tried that before at a micro scale compared to your escapade but nonetheless saw a greatly diminishing return on investment. I actually think it means less to a girl to do that probably for a few reasons.
Most girls are decent enough and have bigger world challenges than you are I (but many self made). No sense making it worse for the girl by outing her. Its supposed to be a win-win arrangement and not win-lose or lose-win.
I hope you find some peace and dont take it out on someone else...
I'm not going to take it out on anyone..... I lift a little harder now at the gym some days..... I shoot a few more rounds at the range and I'll probably kill a couple more deer this year..... but I won't take it out on an innocent
^ Supposedly they do, but something on TUSCL could never hold on in a court of law, so what's the point? Unless they're truly ignorant of what goes on at these clubs and have nothing better to do than try to bust strippers.
"... but something on TUSCL could never hold on in a court of law ...
Not so sure in these politically-correct and "there's human-trafficking everywhere (or so they say)" times.
A while ago it was posted on-here on TUSCL, and also reported in the news, about some dudes in liberal-ass Seattle being gone-after for posting about their exploits on an escort-site - some high-ranking corporate dudes, at least one from MicroSoft (maybe more) and others, along w/ the website's owner, were gone after by the DA and were looking at prosecution and I think were prosecuted but don't quite recall - Seattle has a recent-history of going after johns and seeing them as perpetrators and the reason these girls do what they do - i.e. they see the girls as hopeless victims that only do what they do b/c there are men seeking their services so they "conclude" men looking for sexual services are the problem and must be dealt with.
@Papi_Chulo, yes, I'm not surprised about this. The days when liberals believed in free speech and sexual freedom are long gone. Both the Left and the Right now seem to have a reason to target the sex trade. The little old church ladies who act as foot soldiers in the Republican Party and the hairy-armpits feminists who act as foot soldiers in the Democratic Party both hate the sex business equally, for different reasons.
w.r.t. the lefties, they thump their chests about a woman's right to choose to do w/e they want w/ their bodies, except choose to make $$$ from/with it via P4P
I think it’s a huge mistake. I called a new reviewer out on it in the comments for a review of PHC Detroit and got flamed by a bunch of other new reviewers. I did call him a dumbass which was probably over the top and I admitted my name calling was out of line. However, the comments said the purpose of this site was specifically to name names and that the police don’t care.
I just think it’s bad business. It doesn’t have to be admissible in court to be a problem. It’s identifying girls who are better than their coworkers. The other girls will have it in for them, management will know who they are and LE will then know. It’s not admissible evidence but they can or will be targeted. That’s a huge mistake. If you think this board is anonymous, just look at the number of reviews that are ‘club ad of the day’ types. It may not be as many as AZScrub suggests, but it’s way more than zero. Management reads the board. My former hometown favorite club Players Club has been cleaned out of all the girls who got reps for extras and I’ve no doubt management was reading this board.
^^ Just don't kill the golden goose and make it worse for everyone. Yes, even the clean dancers are effected negatively (contrary to their logic) when all the hot fun girls are fired.
I think it's a bad idea in a club where your fave is doing more contact, more extras, etcc that the typical dancer. Outing her will just cause you to miss out an a good thing if girls or mgmt make her stop; plus a gentleman should never kiss and tell. :|
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Some dancer mentions - can be safe. If a dancer is very nice to you - or she works to make your experience great (without extras) - it could be a good mention.
But don't snitch on the girls that are GGG. Usually they are better for business, especially if they are hot as they drive a lot of demand, but usually only dance/VIP with a few customers leaving more customers for other girls (customers can wait on the her all they want, but she is usually locked down) and even other girls for more customers (since the other girls aren't dancing for her regulars, they are slightly more available to the non regulars). So in essence a hot dirty dancer raises the tide (a rising tide lifts all boats) for all the dancers and customers as well as make a ton of money for the club. And yet them jealous bitches just hate on them and try to get them fired...
As customers, none of these dancers are our dancers. We rent their time. For the naming names, I just go with whatever I think should be in a review as I write it. If I use a name in a review, it's for something I thought was interesting not for something to get them singled out.
For two reasons:
LE may be reading and I may wish to go see her again
I do not make it a point to remember names like them.
Once I depart club I remember points about the club to give a review but names are not important for an informative review.
I always try to remember ROB's to warn fellow Tusclers off.
A guy who can't keep his mouth shut deserves to have his balls kicked in, preferably before he accidentally (I say accidentally because the odds of it happening on purpose are low) breeds another simpering weak little pussy just like him. Seriously now, 40-60+ y.o. guys putting the business of a 20-30+ year old girl out there just boggles my mind.
But with that said, I make an exception for blatant ROBs. I'm not talking about the semi-ROBs, or the bad attitude girls, etc. I mean the girls who pull a complete scam. In all of the reviews I've posted on here, I've only done that once, but she was beyond bad and had been running scams all over town for years.
Honestly, i'm fine with only all the true ROBs being outed, since they are the only consistent thing to me. You might think someone is a great dancer, but if i try her, i might think something completely different. But i will be glad not to have wasted a single dime on the ROB. That doesn't mean you can't share the good details. It should be given to those that ask privately if you feel that it's worth sharing.
Also i tend to be careful with my descriptions based on the "average" or "common" contact/mileage/extras level at the particular club. If the club is just a thinly disguised whorehouse, i have no problem recommending specific dancers. However, i won't even use general euphemisms if i'm describing a low contact air dance club where a particular girl could easily get fired if "all" of the other jealous girls there are doing their boring thing, but only the fun girl is making money, and they think it's her fault. It isn't though...
I can think of a few things, any number of which are real concerns held by girls that I deal with.
1. They don't want problems with other girls.
2. They don't want problems with management, who often explicitly prohibit these activities while in reality looking the other way.
3. They don't want SOs to find out.
4. They don't want to be targeted by LE.
5. They don't want every dipshit with a computer saying, "Well you did XYZ for the tuscl dude called dipshit#1million.
Those are just a few things off the top of my head.
Speaking of dipshit#1million, there used to be a screen name around here promoting a site dedicated to reviewing strippers. What this retard didn't seem to comprehend is the potential chilling effect that this could have had on some of the fun that we have. Not all of us club in metro Detroit. Some of us are in areas where spotlights being shined on particular girls and/or clubs can have consequences.
It's amazing how fucking lazy some guys are. It's not enough to lead them to the club and give them enough "read between the lines" material to get them started. Some guys actually need us to find the specific girls for them. Next they'll be asking other tusclers to unzip them and put the girls' mouths on their cocks for them.
I think ROBs should be outed as public service to the other PLs.
I also think it is fine to prop some dancerssuch as:
Dancer A is the prettiest stripper I've seen in a long time. Or:
I really enjoyed spending time with Dancer B.
But no to outing a stripper for pushing the boundaries. I think it would be okay to provide a bit of intel to fellow members that you trust though, but only via PM.
I am with the majority here. I don't mention dancer names in my reviews. I do give a description of what the dancer looked like, but I try to be vague enough where several girls in the club on any given shift could fit the description.
I have been very fortunate to avoid the ROBs, but if I do deal with one, I certainly will out her in a review so that others can avoid them.
I assume some of these guys have a background from escort sites and then come to TUSCL with the same mindset/expectations
Is that bad form?
If I've had extra fun, I will keep their ID's under wraps.
Anyways, you said you agreed with rickdugan. Well, that was his point. Don't put people's business out into the street (unless they want you to).
I get it. That bitch took you to the cleaners nut there is no reason to think every stripper is the same way. I have met plenty who are decent girls and not trying to take unfair advantage of me. A simple barter and exchange of fair value. I think the trouble starts when you think the more you give her the more she will appreciate you. I tried that before at a micro scale compared to your escapade but nonetheless saw a greatly diminishing return on investment. I actually think it means less to a girl to do that probably for a few reasons.
Most girls are decent enough and have bigger world challenges than you are I (but many self made). No sense making it worse for the girl by outing her. Its supposed to be a win-win arrangement and not win-lose or lose-win.
I hope you find some peace and dont take it out on someone else...
Not so sure in these politically-correct and "there's human-trafficking everywhere (or so they say)" times.
A while ago it was posted on-here on TUSCL, and also reported in the news, about some dudes in liberal-ass Seattle being gone-after for posting about their exploits on an escort-site - some high-ranking corporate dudes, at least one from MicroSoft (maybe more) and others, along w/ the website's owner, were gone after by the DA and were looking at prosecution and I think were prosecuted but don't quite recall - Seattle has a recent-history of going after johns and seeing them as perpetrators and the reason these girls do what they do - i.e. they see the girls as hopeless victims that only do what they do b/c there are men seeking their services so they "conclude" men looking for sexual services are the problem and must be dealt with.
I just think it’s bad business. It doesn’t have to be admissible in court to be a problem. It’s identifying girls who are better than their coworkers. The other girls will have it in for them, management will know who they are and LE will then know. It’s not admissible evidence but they can or will be targeted. That’s a huge mistake. If you think this board is anonymous, just look at the number of reviews that are ‘club ad of the day’ types. It may not be as many as AZScrub suggests, but it’s way more than zero. Management reads the board. My former hometown favorite club Players Club has been cleaned out of all the girls who got reps for extras and I’ve no doubt management was reading this board.