There's been a decent amount of talk on here recently about how hot strippers and even ones just above average are always tied up in the clubs, and some even have lines of guys waiting for just a lapper or even sloppy fourths.
Are there less dancers in clubs these days or just less HOT dancers?
My last visits to Vegas as well as doing the rounds in Detroit I have noticed the dancer selection seemed a little more thin than in years past.
It's just men that forgot how to turn on money hungry women and mad his money shorter than the next guy. You know what I learned when I was young? Respect the hustle. He doing better than you, move to a smaller town or work harder in the bigger city.
Eh valid point Estafador but I was looking at a different angle. A year ago in Detroit I'd go into the Coliseum and see a dozen girls I'd like to spend time with. My last few visits I've noticed less dancers and in general, and I was lucky to find 3 girls I wanted to check out. It's a trend I've noticed recently not exclusive to just one city, and I've seen this in both big and small cities alike.
I don't know I think it varies according to Club right now at a couple of my favorite clubs the quality is down quite a bit but I'm confident it will come back around
It's been at least a three year long trend. At one of my favorite clubs any given weekend there would be 30 dancers usually 20 of which were 7's and 8's. Three or four 9's and above and the rest around 6, very rarely any less than a six.
Now it's about 20 dancers, at least 1/3 were 5's and under, the majority mostly 6's and 7's with two or three 8's and if you are lucky a 9.
Attitude has also gotten a lot worse with the dancers.
The pool for new strippers is mostly filled with 18-22 year olds. Also most strippers last less than 3 years. Every three years the majority of strippers turn over and are replaced with 18-22 year olds. (Yes there are exceptions to starting age and longevity but I am talking the vast majority). So it may be a reflection of the attitudes or values of that age group is different than girls of that age from a few years ago.
I think another part to this is guys now expecting hot dancers and hm/extras. That combination(if it exists in any considerable amount to begin with) will not last forever. With any rampant city wide extras like detroit that will eventually run all the hot strippers away. Either into other sex work or other cities. That is if the local officials don't clean up the strip clubs first(or shut them down). Beggars can't be choosers.
One of the best periods of clubbing (at least in my experience) was right after the bottom fell out in the 2008-2009 time frame. The few years after that, there were many girls to choose from in the clubs.
Well looks like most people here echo what I see, except for Mr Duece - maybe he has lower standards than the rest of us - just kidding! He's just lucky at the moment!
I agree with War that there are more opportunities to make a good living in today's economy. I also think that some of the best lookers can go the cam girl route and make bank without the physical interaction. I know a former dancer that is now doing quite well as a real estate agent after a short set of training courses. Luckily she stills likes flashing her boobs at our local watering holes.
I think it has to do with the fact that we are , for the most part, old farts. When i was 20 any naked girl was pretty hot and when i was 30 any girl who blew and swallowed was phenomenal.Obviously as you get used to these sort of services your standards will rise ,except for Juiceman. I pass on the "wanna' blowjob?"girls now that would have thrilled my 40 year old self. We wait for unicorns after fucking cows. It is one of the only things that makes this still fun for me. I have the money and the patience and the discernment to get what i want.
There are occasional exceptions but IMO overall dancer quality in my area has greatly declined over the years. I attribute much of that decline to the heroin epidemic that has permeated the area. Many of these women are druggies that may have looked good before they went down the rabbit hole but no longer care about their looks or their hygiene, they are dancing or hooking to feed their habit and their habit is the only thing that matters to them.
Too many variables - down here in South FL w/ so many clubs often times some that were hopping at one point w/ talent start falling off but others may start being thee place dancers wanna be - often times it's a management change that makes things for the worse causing girls to bail; other times it's other clubs stepping up their game.
I'm not sure I have seen a decline or if it's when I club a lot/often it has less of an effect and it takes more to impress me (familiarity breeds contempt?) - it seems when I manage to take a break from the clubs then go back I find them pretty-good.
@Shailynn : "Well looks like most people here echo what I see, except for Mr Duece - maybe he has lower standards than the rest of us - just kidding! He's just lucky at the moment!"
Based on reading a lot of guys saying they only get dances from 8 and up, I have lower standards than many of you. I just get dances from girls who I think will be fun. If they don't turn out to live up to it, it's only $10 lost and time to give another audition.
Depends which club you go to. IME, the majority of the really hot dancers work at clubs that are very strict about not allowing extras. At clubs where extras are the norm, you won't find as many stunners but usually there are at least a couple that will make the cut.
I have seen a decline of new GND types along with the improving economy. I texted one of my favorites from a while back and she said that she has a real job now. There are clubs around with consistently hot dancers, but they're not the kind of clubs I want to go to - expensive as fuck, dancers who only want big $$$, etc, which I would also chalk up to the improving economy.
I find that the sweet spot is when one of the lower-end hot dancers goes to a dive after having trouble competing at one of the hot dancer clubs. She's not stuck up after having trouble competing, the club is generally pretty chill, and they're not expecting you to pay $20 for valet and $5 for a guy to hand you a piece of toilet paper because you couldn't hold it until getting to McDonald's.
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last commentNow it's about 20 dancers, at least 1/3 were 5's and under, the majority mostly 6's and 7's with two or three 8's and if you are lucky a 9.
Attitude has also gotten a lot worse with the dancers.
Beggars can't be choosers.
One of the best periods of clubbing (at least in my experience) was right after the bottom fell out in the 2008-2009 time frame. The few years after that, there were many girls to choose from in the clubs.
I'm not sure I have seen a decline or if it's when I club a lot/often it has less of an effect and it takes more to impress me (familiarity breeds contempt?) - it seems when I manage to take a break from the clubs then go back I find them pretty-good.
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Based on reading a lot of guys saying they only get dances from 8 and up, I have lower standards than many of you. I just get dances from girls who I think will be fun. If they don't turn out to live up to it, it's only $10 lost and time to give another audition.
I find that the sweet spot is when one of the lower-end hot dancers goes to a dive after having trouble competing at one of the hot dancer clubs. She's not stuck up after having trouble competing, the club is generally pretty chill, and they're not expecting you to pay $20 for valet and $5 for a guy to hand you a piece of toilet paper because you couldn't hold it until getting to McDonald's.