Tax tips for republicans
Saturday, June 24, 2017 8:18 AM
Give tax breaks to the poor and first 15,000 or more of income. The poor will spend it all boosting the economy. You might be able to get some democrats to agree if it doesn't seem like a big tax break for the rich. If you could do it, lower taxes on the first 90k of income.
Then most of the poor and middle class voters might be happy. You could even leave taxes alone on the rich since they will save on the first 90k of income.
Social security. Get rid of the income tax limit. Make everyone pay even if they are rich. I think if you make more than 90k or so, they stop paying social security taxes on the excess. Why should someone making more pay less taxes? It's just a tax we all have to pay for us poorer folks. I may never get hardly any social security money back unless I live long enough or stay poor. In that case social security is just a tax I paid all my life.
Have the president and congress make it clear and tweet that they are slowing down the growth rate of government spending. Don't let democrats get the message out they you are enacting massive cuts to entitlement programs when you are actually increasing Medicare,Medicaid spending to the biggest level ever.
Enact lean systems to government departments. Cut spending. Set goals to cut spending.
Corporations do it all the time. Same amount of work done with less people.
Make new programs be able to pass a cost justification where benefits are bigger than costs.
Assume we wil have a democratic congress after 2018 unless you guys get your act together and we will have impeachment hearings and a recession in 2019 if you don't.
Then most of the poor and middle class voters might be happy. You could even leave taxes alone on the rich since they will save on the first 90k of income.
Social security. Get rid of the income tax limit. Make everyone pay even if they are rich. I think if you make more than 90k or so, they stop paying social security taxes on the excess. Why should someone making more pay less taxes? It's just a tax we all have to pay for us poorer folks. I may never get hardly any social security money back unless I live long enough or stay poor. In that case social security is just a tax I paid all my life.
Have the president and congress make it clear and tweet that they are slowing down the growth rate of government spending. Don't let democrats get the message out they you are enacting massive cuts to entitlement programs when you are actually increasing Medicare,Medicaid spending to the biggest level ever.
Enact lean systems to government departments. Cut spending. Set goals to cut spending.
Corporations do it all the time. Same amount of work done with less people.
Make new programs be able to pass a cost justification where benefits are bigger than costs.
Assume we wil have a democratic congress after 2018 unless you guys get your act together and we will have impeachment hearings and a recession in 2019 if you don't.
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Now people with income get the fist money tax free, via std deduction and exemptions, and double that for a married couple, like $11k?
And then there is the Earned Income Tax Credit, and it can even be refundable, though it only helps people with children. Maybe though with Citizenship pay they would eliminate this.
But the basic idea, giving money to those at the bottom, is right. Like say Food Stamps. Poor people spend their money, and right away, and it recirculates. It is federal money, just like getting a contract to build a stealth bomber. But even it if was local taxation, it still helps the economy to siphon wealth downwards.
For the middle-class, the cost of living is always just the cost of keeping up with the Jones, that is relative.
SJG
SJG
For example, why the hell do we need a BATF. While the gun lobby wants to get rid of it for different reasons, there still is a use for enforcement. The problem is the agency is relic of prohibition, whose operations can be shifted over to the commerce department, IRS and FBI. Getting rid of the agency would save 1 1/2 billion dollars plus the cost of congressional oversight.
Another area that can be significantly cut is our international assistance programs.
HUD is a complete fuck up that wastes money with no apparent improvement. The entire agency needs to be eliminated and it's funding sent to each state by a formula, based on the number of people below the poverty line in the state.
The department of labor is another agency which needs to be overhauled. The budget isn't as stupidly high as it was during the recession but is still way too large. It's only purpose should be to enforce labor laws, nothing else.
The department of education is another wasteful agency. It's only purpose should be to make sure that all states have the same quality of education. It doesn't need a seventy billion dollar budget to do that.
The office of personal management is also another waste. Most agencies have their own human resources anyway, so why the heck do we need another office with a budget of 84 billion to share responsibility with.
Yeah, somebody needs to incentivize me to make more money, because right now I'm being incentivized to hide it, or move someplace where the tax burden is less.
The old adage "less is more" seems to fit. The less I do the more I keep.
They aren't net contributors: i.e they receive more in benefits than they pay in taxes. I believe it's that way until you get to the top 20%. But if you listen to some of these lefties you would believe that the poor are the ones carrying the rich.
No one on the top portion of authoritarian vs libertarian scale scale will cut subsidies. Left vs right isn't as important. Only a true libertarian, green peace, or maybe a progressive would actually reduce subsidies/ entitlements. The republicans always talk a big game, but those entitlements they bitch ab are actually helping to prop up their political supporters.
SJG
Geee, if they cost the employer nothing they should quadruple them then. Nothing times 4 is still nothing. Great way to raise revenue, and apparently it doesn't cost anything.
@SJG: how about you spend 10 seconds trying to think of contradictions in your own arguments before you post, and save us from have to read your comically idiot non-sense?
The system will never be perfect or even close to it, due to our style of government and the pendulum swinging back and forth adapting to current needs while still holding on to our core constitutional values. I like sifting through the discord to find some validity in people's opinions, and the both of you have more solid ground to stand on compared to the supposedly high moral ground of the extremes.
On one hand it could incentivize them to be more productive citizens, yet many people on welfare tend to have mental issues and resort to self medicating a disease that modern health care hasn't caught up to.
It's possible a basic income could help this issue, or at least take some of the sting off the disparity of the poor/mentally challenged.
I personally do not like this system bc the ppl who pay the majority of taxes in this country (middle class AND wealthy.. tho it won't make much difference for them) don't benefit equally, and wind up both working, and using their after taxes income, and savings, to care for their loved ones, or themselves if something happens to them, while the already poor get it for nothing.
That is not available here we are in the construction industry work almost exclusively, on high and mid rise structures, the insurances that we carry do not allow for employees to work side by side with ICs as a matter of fact certain aspects of our projects, require subs skilled in other facets than our specialties, they must complete their portion of a project before we can begin. Additionally my subs are legit subs they work for many different contractors, my employees are not allowed by contract to work for other employers while in our employ.
I am not complaining as I am satisfied with the way our business runs, I personally have gained much from my employees, I have been to hundreds of birthday celebrations, many baptisms, more than a few weddings, and there have been some sad occasions, a few funerals over the years, but I still feel blessed one of my favorite things is having two of my employees add their sons to our family and work directly supervised by their fathers. Also my office administrator is the sister in law of my original administrator started working in my office when she was still in high school part time and when her sister in laws husband received a promotion that required her to move out of state she seamlessly took over that full time position, she is now 28 with a baby and a husband and has worked here for 16 years, like i said there are so many blessings that go beyond money I wouldn't have it any other way.
And 25, you are the biggot.
SJG
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