My conjecture: SJG was having trouble getting people to join his "church". Not that the bar was very high, but even as low it was people pegged him as a complete fuckin' psycho they should stay the fuck away from. So he thought? What can we do? Got to get this revolution going? So he starting reading up on the occult and black magic, so he could appeal to any crazier kind of nut than he was originally shooting from.
Well this new tactic finally attract some members to his imaginary church? Think the requirement that he is going to have on women: i.e. they have to allow themselves to be fucked by any church member 24/7 means it's going to be one big sausage fest of people as psycho, or even more psycho than SJG is.
In my opinion, SJG's "organization" is probably not too far off from the culture of the Canadian biker gangs up in Quebec. I have heard personal accounts of their club houses, where the guys and girls would do drugs and have crazy group sex all night long. So... that aspect of his organization is not impossible.
No worries -- he's just Satan's Junior Guide -- but he is in training to be the new Anton LaVey.
GoV, with all due respect, you and I have dramatically different understandings of the term "interesting". Weird, yes; interesting, hardly. I find them both intensely boring, though SJG (ironically, given his apparent Satanic leanings) doesn't spew vitriol at others on this board.
Funny. Is there anyone on the board who finds MisterDouche interesting? I didn't even notice he was here for a few years, until he made a persistent effort at calling me out in his posts. When I hit him back a little, didn't take long until he curled up and hid behind ignore.
Actually I guess little georgiemicrobrain would find MisterDouche interesting since they both find Ayn Rand interesting. Most people thinks her and her followers are just ninnies, however.
I have no idea but did read some links SJG posted referring to Black magic or Satan or something. Maybe he has connections. I don't know the guy.
If I was to start a church, I might use the goddess of love, not the opposite. We already have enough violence, hate, and evil in this world.
Strip clubs should be more like a church service for the goddess of love without all the restrictions governments keep imposing. Classic rock and or heavy metal could be playing in the background while strippers are taking it all off and patrons are making donations. Meanwhile in a back room, some patrons and associate goddesses are worshiping Venus the best way they know.
Is Satan really such a bad guy? There are some compelling aspects of secular Satanism. I would have expected more open mind from the capitalist and "self-interest" crowd, here Satanism is VERY misunderstood. It's based on abilities, intelligence, and the use of critical thinking skills. Are these not things that conservatives value?
"...do drugs and have crazy group sex all night long."
If you take out the drugs I could get behind that. I am pro-legalization because I think adults should be able to choose what they put in their body as long as they don't endanger others (i.e., by driving while high). I think the consequences of criminalizing drug use are worse than drug use.
But I wouldn't want to participate in the drugging and just don't want to be around it.
"Is it just me or is SJG a legit devil worshiping cultist with knowledge of black magic?"
The answer is, Not Yet.
There are different kinds of occult, some are much darker than others. And then there is also the Esoteric, which includes things like Rosicrucianism, Kabbalah, and the Tarot, where I do have experience.
Of the things I've recently posted about, these are from my readings, and I have not yet decided what I think about them. I have already posted that some of it I am not yet inclined to go along with.
Thanks for the words of support GoVikings.
Of what I am doing, there will never be any drugs, alcohol, or tobacco, just lots and lots of sex. Every guy will get PS ( Pussy Saturation ).
Founder: Could we add PS = Pussy Saturation to the glossary?
By this I don't just mean pumping out as many loads as you can. I mean more than that. After many rounds of getting to pick the dolled up stripper grade hottie you want, and then getting to bed down with her and finding out that she won't really let you sleep, keeping her hands on your cock to indicate that she wants to be disturbed again at the earliest possible opportunity, eventually you saturate. You have other stuff to do, intellectual things, honest work ( not Dougster stuff ).
So Pussy Saturation simply means that eventually you have spent all the time you want with women. Maybe a few quickies during the day. People sleeping on mats in the temple, and being serviced by our Priestesses. But you don't really need to sleep with women each night and you will want to go for a day or more without pumping out any loads.
Pussy Saturation means spending as much time as you want to with women. You find your natural limit. You can only fuck them so many times. If you spend too much other time with them, you start to become like them. And this is unhealthy.
Now, about esoteric studies, which is not fully occult, there is a close relationship between this and academic philosophy. And when it comes to the later, I am well studied, from Pre-Socratics to the Postmodern and Post-structural. The esoteric and the occult are where one can go, once they are outside of academia.
I am a fan of the late Colin Wilson. He started with Existentialism, and his first book. The Outsider 1956, is outstanding. But as the years moved on, he was dealing with the Occult, and he is a most trust worthy and reliable source.
As far as MrDeuce saying that I want to be Anton LaVey, there is some truth to this. I do not want to emulate Church of Satan, as there are areas where I disagree with it. As many have pointed out, it has turned into Fascism.
But at its best, so long as you don't take it too seriously, LaVey is just saying that all Gods are human created, and he is poking fun at them.
The Gods that keep the pews and collection plates full, and keep people walking the straight and narrow, they are idols, make by human minds.
And LaVey's stuff does explicitly focus on female sex appeal, both in the written word, and in deed. His event focus on sexy women, and in his book Satanic Witch, he talks about high heels, short skirts, and makeup. LaVey is making fun of religion and its hypocrisy. But he is mostly theater. He is not progressive politics, which my group will be. The sexy theater will be private, and the visual displays will always be intended to result in real sex.
But LaVey, former carnival show worker, is interesting:
I don't think much about SJG because he is the most bigoted and narrow minded member in the forum. The thing is majority of other members concur and he continues to defy those odds against him. SJG is also the most delusional member in recent history.
SJG, I think your organization already exists--the adult film industry. I suspect that a not-so insignificant percentage of young hot women have participated.
@Dougster, I have a background in physics. After delving into quantum mechanics and discovering the paradoxes that actually exist in reality (yes, that shit is real), I think it's quite easy to develop some loose nuts and bolts in the ol' noggin. IMO, SJG might need to just eat a piece of steak and go to the gym; mental illness is often associated with poor lifestyle.
Sorry but there are no paradoxes in reality. Just things seem which seem paradoxical to our intuition. The laws of physics though aren't what are intuition is used to or expecting.
Interesting thing Kraig says, that the Western Magical Tradition started because in the middle ages there was a surplus of unemployed Catholic priests.
This makes sense too, they would have the literacy, knowledge, and spiritual development, and the magic is still fairly close to the bible and Christianity, and to make any money they would have to do things which the Church considers beyond the pale.
Some references he gives, some of the hundred or so which he gives:
1993, not in libraries, but it looks very good. Written in consultation with Israel Regardie.
Crowley, Aleister, 1875-1947.
777 and other qabalistic writings of Aleister Crowley : including Gematria & Sepher Sephiroth / edited with an introduction by Israel Regardie.
in libraries, claims that this had been the must have dictionary of Western Occultism. Dion Fortune also holds it in such esteem.
Very interesting looking book. Also referenced by Donald Michael Kraig. The above has only one copy in a library, but it is reference desk only. But libraries have lots of his other books, and the above is available used and new. Click on the cover and check out the table of contents.
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He will tell you to his organization and find out.
Oh, by the way...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij4gc8iBDa…
Maybe to a psychologist they are the "most interesting" members.
Well this new tactic finally attract some members to his imaginary church? Think the requirement that he is going to have on women: i.e. they have to allow themselves to be fucked by any church member 24/7 means it's going to be one big sausage fest of people as psycho, or even more psycho than SJG is.
GoV, with all due respect, you and I have dramatically different understandings of the term "interesting". Weird, yes; interesting, hardly. I find them both intensely boring, though SJG (ironically, given his apparent Satanic leanings) doesn't spew vitriol at others on this board.
If I was to start a church, I might use the goddess of love, not the opposite. We already have enough violence, hate, and evil in this world.
Strip clubs should be more like a church service for the goddess of love without all the restrictions governments keep imposing. Classic rock and or heavy metal could be playing in the background while strippers are taking it all off and patrons are making donations. Meanwhile in a back room, some patrons and associate goddesses are worshiping Venus the best way they know.
If you take out the drugs I could get behind that. I am pro-legalization because I think adults should be able to choose what they put in their body as long as they don't endanger others (i.e., by driving while high). I think the consequences of criminalizing drug use are worse than drug use.
But I wouldn't want to participate in the drugging and just don't want to be around it.
However, crazy group sex = brilliant!
The answer is, Not Yet.
There are different kinds of occult, some are much darker than others. And then there is also the Esoteric, which includes things like Rosicrucianism, Kabbalah, and the Tarot, where I do have experience.
Of the things I've recently posted about, these are from my readings, and I have not yet decided what I think about them. I have already posted that some of it I am not yet inclined to go along with.
Thanks for the words of support GoVikings.
Of what I am doing, there will never be any drugs, alcohol, or tobacco, just lots and lots of sex. Every guy will get PS ( Pussy Saturation ).
Founder: Could we add PS = Pussy Saturation to the glossary?
By this I don't just mean pumping out as many loads as you can. I mean more than that. After many rounds of getting to pick the dolled up stripper grade hottie you want, and then getting to bed down with her and finding out that she won't really let you sleep, keeping her hands on your cock to indicate that she wants to be disturbed again at the earliest possible opportunity, eventually you saturate. You have other stuff to do, intellectual things, honest work ( not Dougster stuff ).
So Pussy Saturation simply means that eventually you have spent all the time you want with women. Maybe a few quickies during the day. People sleeping on mats in the temple, and being serviced by our Priestesses. But you don't really need to sleep with women each night and you will want to go for a day or more without pumping out any loads.
Pussy Saturation means spending as much time as you want to with women. You find your natural limit. You can only fuck them so many times. If you spend too much other time with them, you start to become like them. And this is unhealthy.
Now, about esoteric studies, which is not fully occult, there is a close relationship between this and academic philosophy. And when it comes to the later, I am well studied, from Pre-Socratics to the Postmodern and Post-structural. The esoteric and the occult are where one can go, once they are outside of academia.
I am a fan of the late Colin Wilson. He started with Existentialism, and his first book. The Outsider 1956, is outstanding. But as the years moved on, he was dealing with the Occult, and he is a most trust worthy and reliable source.
As far as MrDeuce saying that I want to be Anton LaVey, there is some truth to this. I do not want to emulate Church of Satan, as there are areas where I disagree with it. As many have pointed out, it has turned into Fascism.
But at its best, so long as you don't take it too seriously, LaVey is just saying that all Gods are human created, and he is poking fun at them.
The Gods that keep the pews and collection plates full, and keep people walking the straight and narrow, they are idols, make by human minds.
And LaVey's stuff does explicitly focus on female sex appeal, both in the written word, and in deed. His event focus on sexy women, and in his book Satanic Witch, he talks about high heels, short skirts, and makeup. LaVey is making fun of religion and its hypocrisy. But he is mostly theater. He is not progressive politics, which my group will be. The sexy theater will be private, and the visual displays will always be intended to result in real sex.
But LaVey, former carnival show worker, is interesting:
San Francisco Stripper Susan Atkins
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236…
http://i1.wp.com/illuminatiwatcher.com/w…
SJG
Occult Studies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZCIPvIT…
SJG
Stones, Time Waits For No One
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC0Qt1lv…
Student of Georges Gurdjieff and occult teacher in his own right
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._D._Ousp…
Become involved in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_of_…
The American arm
http://www.philosophyworks.org/
In San Francisco
They did have something in San Jose
about their courses:
http://www.philosophyworks.org/philosoph…
And then there is also:
http://philosopher.org/Socrates_Cafe.htm…
SJG
Thin Lizzy - Whiskey In The Jar, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4axtdx7…
https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Magick-Twe…
Interesting thing Kraig says, that the Western Magical Tradition started because in the middle ages there was a surplus of unemployed Catholic priests.
This makes sense too, they would have the literacy, knowledge, and spiritual development, and the magic is still fairly close to the bible and Christianity, and to make any money they would have to do things which the Church considers beyond the pale.
Some references he gives, some of the hundred or so which he gives:
https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Temple-Rob…
1993, not in libraries, but it looks very good. Written in consultation with Israel Regardie.
Crowley, Aleister, 1875-1947.
777 and other qabalistic writings of Aleister Crowley : including Gematria & Sepher Sephiroth / edited with an introduction by Israel Regardie.
in libraries, claims that this had been the must have dictionary of Western Occultism. Dion Fortune also holds it in such esteem.
But now,
https://www.amazon.com/Godwins-Cabalisti…
in libraries
And then now,
https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Magician…
many of his other books are in libraries, and they look good, but not the above
SJG
"Casino Royale" FULL SOUNDTRACK ALBUM 1967
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhmZULZX…
Very interesting looking book. Also referenced by Donald Michael Kraig. The above has only one copy in a library, but it is reference desk only. But libraries have lots of his other books, and the above is available used and new. Click on the cover and check out the table of contents.
SJG
Alice Bunker Stockham
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Bunk…
https://www.amazon.com/KAREZZA-Marriage-…
https://www.amazon.com/Karezza-Method-J-…
http://www.health-science-spirit.com/kar…
https://www.reuniting.info/karezza_four_…
https://www.reddit.com/r/karezza/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coitus_res…
SJG
https://www.flickr.com/photos/25953606@N…
Jimmy Smith, Paris 1969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NiIltwU…