LDK

I don't see how I could cum in my pants from just friction maybe if I hadn't cum in like 6 months or something.

I could have done it when I was 15. I would have probably been able to do it multiple times too.

Now? No way. It usually takes a long time now and it has to be direct contact with the girl, no material in between.

LDK is just a loser.His days are long and lonely.How he justifies his goal is beyond me.He's right up there with Crazy Joe and Mr. Deuce and one other misfit that escapes my memory.

Some of us can jizz a lot easier than others

Lucky bastards. Discussions of mileage and extras are irrelevant if you can ldk. Me, I gotta hit up TJ more.

Mileage helps achieve LDK in my experience. But yeah, less worried about getting extras if I'm okay with LDK that visit.

its a mystery to me, too.

Yep, I'm in the same boat. On so many levels, an LDK makes no sense to me. Even if I could cum from just a lap dance, I certainly wouldn't want to.

You guys are lucky...must be over sensitive or something. Easy with the right clothes/shapely girl.

I can LDK in a stripper's mouth.

This topic comes up from time to time and is rather tiresome. If you club in an area where extras are available, you have little need to lapgasm. I *don't* live in such an area and have lapgasmed literally hundreds of times over the years. In my 40s I could often cum after just a dance or two. Now, in my 60s, it generally takes several dances -- but it happens, often!

Just last week I went to a nude BYOB place in Austin called XTC Cabaret and got several very high-contact $10 lappers with two different Latinas, the second of whom prided herself on her ability to make guys cum with just dances. It didn't work on me, and I thought I might have to go VIP, where I had gotten a CBJ the week before. However, a thick white girl appeared on stage, I tipped her several dollars, she joined me when she got off stage, and we soon adjourned to the side of the room for lap dances. To my delighted surprise, she got me off in just two songs, aided by the fact that she was naked and that she provided lots of manual stimulation to Little Deuce.

I guess I don't understand guys who *can't* cum from lap dances :)

LDK was once and done in1996 age 46 for me.

first ever lap dance. guess everything was repressed.

I can barely muster an erection even when going commando to the club.

I have never LDKd before and I always wondered how a guy could do it but now I understand because it almost happened to me once, it would have had I nkt stopped the dancer.

First off I almost always wear jeans to a club which a lot of guys say is a no no especially if you want to LDK. It's all about the grinding, and some girls grind in a way that gives me a raging hard on, other times they way they grind does absolutely nothing for me.

So this one time this girl was nude on top of me grounded the right way to get me hard and was sliding her wet pussy over top my jeans back and forth over my erection. It felt like a hand job and while she's breathing heavy in my ear and my hands are on her ass, it could have happened, but I stopped. I can see where other guys do it.

Keep in mind I've literally gotta probably over 500 lapdances in my lifetime and this happened once. ONCE!!!

^^^^ But it is still not really a good way to engage with a girl.

I mean if you are seeing her regularly, and off of the clock, then to do that once in a while is fine. Maybe she is a virgin, or maybe she just hasn't fucked that many guys and is not ready yet to fuck you. But you can still put her on her back, and make her cum as you cum, by dry humping.

But paying strippers to do this, that is pathetic, paying money to exacerbate your own sexual frustration.

SJG

Hey - some guys can dunk a basketball - most guys can't - some people just have a certain ability - i.e. LDKers are "bust-a-nut savants"

At times I'll have some pre-cum (tip of my dick wet) but have never fully busted like an orgasm.

A handful of times (about 5 in thousands of LDs) I thought I could perhaps LDK if she kept it up grinding at the same beat and at the same spot for maybe 4+ songs but it never really got to that - the very few times it had the potential to possibly happen has been w/ slim athletically built AAs that are slim and firm and have a decent sized bubble-butt that is extremely firm.

You all who can't LDK are probably a bunch of fat fucks. Fat guys can't cum as easily b/c you all are girly boys.

"Men with high fat levels were found to have higher levels of the female sex hormone oestradiol, which disrupts the chemical balance in their body, making them last longer during sex.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion…

Sex with a woman goes better if you learn how to pace it and to be more sensitive to her responses.

Just wanting her to dry hump you 'till completion, you are telling the girl that you don't really like her very much and don't really want to find better ways to engage with her.

By learning to cum quickly you are degrading your own sexual abilities.

SJG

@sflguy123 wrote: "You all who can't LDK are probably a bunch of fat fucks. Fat guys can't cum as easily b/c you all are girly boys."

Speaking as a bit of a "fat fuck" myself (6' tall, 230 lb), I have to say I have lapgasmed many *hundreds* of times. I guess the allegedly high level of oestradiol in my body is more than compensated for by my uber-masculine testosterone level :)

And not that I give a flip what SJG thinks about this, but I have found no conflict between cumming quickly during lap dances and cumming slowly in bed with a woman. Obviously paying per dance motivates me to cum quickly, but when I'm with a woman who's "off the clock", I can slow right on down to her natural rhythm.

Consider, that you can purchase condoms which are lubricated on the INTERIOR, and are shaped asymmetrically, but with a dry and tighter base, a design intended to allow the upper ends of them to slip-slide and stimulate while the lower ends of them nevertheless remain in place. Your imagination could go wherever else necessary.

For anyone to have an LDK where I club at, they would probably LDK just looking at the web cam girls online because the experience isn't getting a whole lot better. They don't give air dances but they wear pasties and you can't touch a whole lot.

I'm not sure why anyone would want to LDK instead of having sex. Whenever I was very horny, some dancer seemed to always want to help. For several months when I lived in NC, I remember some Korean massage girls would mug me every night and drain me before I made it inside a strip club next door. They did give an excellent massage. I only willingly went to visit them one time. They had two girls pull me off the street every other time. A few times from across the parking lot. When I tried to sneak past them from the other side of the strip club, I found out other girls were waiting on the other side. If you can have an LDK after getting routinely drained, that's amazing. I think I would still prefer sex over jizzing in the pants.

My on CF can make almost anyone LDK with a LD if she puts her mind to it. She's very athletic and has some unusually stimulating techniques that are rather unusual. I prefer not to cum in the club and sometimes it's a battle of wills. She wants me to cum and I try not to. Usually I don't but if she sticks her hand down my pants it's all over for me.

SJG : "Just wanting her to dry hump you 'till completion, you are telling the girl that you don't really like her very much and don't really want to find better ways to engage with her."

lol, what? I have not had dancers be less willing to see me OTC just because I LDK.

But then again I don't look down on a dancer for her profession or because she gets paid to help guys ejaculate. It's a noble profession if you ask me, a tremendous service to society.

Like that thread a few days ago, if that guy knew about this they probably wouldn't fondle a knocked out 19 yr old in an ambulance. That guy is likely going to jail or paying a huge fine for something he could have done consensually for the cost of one dance.

I treat these girls as respectfully as any other girls I meet, because they deserve it and there's no reason I shouldn't. A different profession shouldn't really change how someone is treated.

I'm rambling... LDKs are a fantastic part of the strip club experience in my opinion.

it's definitely possible depending on a number of variables.

basketball shorts vs jeans
time since last ejaculation
dancers willingness to provide LDK
number of songs it takes to get there(LDK can LDK in 1 or 2 songs, it might take others longer)
influence of drugs and alcohol(if I get too drunk it fucks with my ability to get 100% erection just from a lapdance)
General horniness

I'm sure there's more variables.

Let's see, is there any connection between my enjoyment of lapgasms and a stripper's willingness to see me OTC? I've had close to 20 OTC dates with 5 different strippers (though two of these dates were for dinner only). With two of the five, I had lapgasmed ITC only; the other three had already blown me ITC. Conclusion: No, no real correlation. If a stripper thinks I'm fun to be with, feels safe with me, and knows she can make some money from me, she'll see me OTC regardless of the exact nature of my ITC orgasms.

So houjack and MrDeuce, you seem to be saying that asking for LDKing is a reasonable way of interacting with strip club dancers, and that it doesn't interfere with future OTCing.

Well, I would never say that it completely destroys future OTCing possibilities. But I still stand on what I said, a girl is going to like better a guy who is primarily interested in her, DFK, DATY ( I have never had a girl who does not like this and is not well effected by it ), and just talk. And then either it goes to FS-ITC, or your own ejaculation is saved for OTC, which, in a civilian form, you let her know you want to make happen ASAP, like that night. That will go over better with her.

Usually girls steer it to things like BBBJ 'till completion on account of aunt flo / PMS.

About dry humping, usually that works with a girl who has limited sexual experience and is not ready for you to fuck her yet, and so you are the one doing it, on top, and making her and yourself cum.

In a strip club dance booth, that is a girl providing a service for money for a guy who is so pathetic, or is cheating on his wife, so that that is the best he can set up. A chump.

SJG

Casino Royale 1967 Sound Track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhmZULZX…

She's A Lady
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReL9dmYD…

first page of sheet music
http://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtd…

complete guitar tabs
https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/t/tom_j…

This song looks to be entirely diatonic, and so much of it is sung over Em.

The bridge is all major triads, and seems to constitute a key change, likely to Bb.

I remember reading a discussion once of the transitions in popular music as being either 1. harmony changes, 2. mode changes, or 3. key changes. But as to what distinguishes one from the others, I am still not clear. And then I don't think that classical music lends itself to such analyses, as it is more varied.

As far as using a condom to hide the fact that you'll be LDKing at some point. I can't do that because I piss allot and would need like 2-4 condom changes before a LD period.