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"This Is The Single Greatest Witch Hunt In American History"

Thursday, May 18, 2017 5:29 AM
Do you agree or just Trump feeling sorry for himself as people with his personality damage are apt to? I certainly the Clinton witch hunt and McCarthy witch hunts were bigger, for instance. Interesting: no denials of anything from Commey yesterday.

99 comments

  • Mate27
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    7 years ago
    I'm apolitical except when it comes to stupidity. Both sides need to quit their stupidity, but then again that's part of their job title. Dems need to let him govern, and he needs to quit using words.
  • bang69
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    7 years ago
    Who ever thought American Politics could turn into a comedy show. Will this be better then the Salem Which trials in 1692
  • skibum609
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    7 years ago
    The Comey memo is meaningless. If he thought Trump was trying to obstruct justice 90 days ago, Comey was required by law to report it immediately. His failure to do so is a felony. Left wing "news" is fake news, but having said that Trump deserves to be treated badly and has brought this on himself.
  • Tiredtraveler
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    7 years ago
    I try not to "watch" much news today and I have ceased the local paper when it was bought out by Gannet (what a cheesy outfit) they run "USA Today" which not fit to wipe your ass with. ALL the major news outlets are now worse than the "Nation Enquirer". They publicize half truths at best, sensationalized BS most of the time and are not worth the time to listen to. Comey is a political hack lawyer, always has been, always will be. If you look at his past performance before he joined the FBI he was always about currying favors. He was put in charge of the FBI because he looks clean because of his carefully maintained facade. ABC has finally stopped pretending to be neutral and has even gotten to the point of cancelling their second most popular show because it refuses to tow the political line. It is their option to cancel the show because they own the broadcast rights but they are just the latest to run up the jolly roger. The hatred of the American people for our values(wanting the government to follow the Constitution not some harvard asshole's rewriting of the document) and our work ethic by the elite ivy league educated whale turds on the coasts is becoming more & more open. Tim Allen has it correct except that it applies to virtually the entire country. There is a minority that seeks control of everything! They have control of most of the government and courts, the most of the media and much of the school system. Mr Allen is correct in his assertion that if you dare to disagree with the religion of big intrusive government that wants to own and run everything you are to; be beaten down, have your livelihood taken, silenced, jailed or even killed any way possible. In other words living in the USA today is not much better than 30's Germany. I know that this post will bring the rabid ire of some but that serve to illustrate my point. Polite disagreement is dead on both sides. If you are conservative you have witnessed your right, property, and earning be stolen at the point of a gun by both side of the aisle hidden behind smoke and mirrors. The diversion of the cold war stole much, then the guise of the war on pollution then the war on drugs, now the war on terror so finally there is open warfare by government and media on anyone who DARES to disagree that "ALL THINGS SPRING FROM THE GOVERNMENT" ............."you did not build that" ............. I am tired of hearing the lie that Hillary won the popular vote by a large margin. Most people do not know is that the absentee ballots were not counted in virtually all the states. If the margin of victory in a state is larger than the number of absentee vote for either candidate the votes are NOT counted. I suspect that if ALL the eligible votes were count in every state the total would look different. There were several recounts requested and begun but were being halted at the request of candidate because the recount was showing a disturbing(to Hillary) trend of Trump gaining votes. If the recount had been allowed to continue I think Hillary would have not won the popular vote( the only thing that has legitimized the paid protests).
  • Dougster
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    7 years ago
    TT: "In other words living in the USA today is not much better than 30's Germany. " Oh my!
  • skibum609
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    7 years ago
    The idea that what is going on today has any parallel with 1930s germany does nothing other than show the sick, twisted, hatefulness of the person making the comment.
  • twentyfive
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    7 years ago
    Trump is his own worst enemy always has been and he's not going to change. My bet he's looking for an exit strategy that lets him say he won
  • Call.Me.Ishmael
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    7 years ago
    Trump made a big chunk of his money in the entertainment industry by doing impulsive, outrageous, and dramatic acts in order to drive ratings. I think that he's struggling with the reality (and thus far reality is losing the struggle...) that the behaviors that drive successful television do not translate toward successful governance.
  • skibum609
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    7 years ago
    Two spot on posts.
  • Dougster
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    7 years ago
    So is this special prosecutor gonna drag on for years like Clinton's did?
  • Call.Me.Ishmael
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    7 years ago
    Nothing happens quickly in government. And, the higher the stakes, the slower the progress. This will not be resolved quickly.
  • etsutwigg222
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    7 years ago
    Thought this was a site to help the old bald guys (ME) find young girls to pretend to like rubbing on us!!!! In that vein, I will quote the great unifier of the past 8 years " I won, get over it!!!!" If correct then, it is correct now!!!
  • Call.Me.Ishmael
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    7 years ago
    I've never disputed that Trump won the election. But, you know, there is the matter of the 4 years following the election...
  • Papi_Chulo
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    7 years ago
    I wonder how many millions they are gonna spend on this investigation which will likely not lead to anything
  • RandomMember
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    7 years ago
    "Do you agree or just Trump feeling sorry for himself as people with his personality damage are apt to?" ----------------------------------- I don't know that "feeling sorry for himself" really captures how Trump perceives the investigation. It's closer to the way rich people feel that they can do anything the fuck they want with impunity. Rich men can grab 'em by the pussy with impunity because...well...they're rich. They don't have to play by the same rules. Example: flying home last night the guy behind me was drunk and bragging about being an ophthalmologist. Stewardess asked to take his drink because we were landing. He went apeshit and started screaming at her. "Go ahead and rip the drink from my hands!" "I want a refund!" "I'm gonna wirte a letter to your CEO!" The guy plainly felt he didn't have to abide by the same rules as the rest of us. Trump's a great example of why we need to have an inheritance tax. He's basically a fat, lazy, senile, ignorant guy who got where he is by virtue of his inheritance.
  • anonlvone
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    7 years ago
    Okay, if you really wanna go there, the Clintons have a criminal history longer than that of any other American politician in my memory, and the only reason she's not rotting in a prison cell is because she would take down so many other people with her. Totally agree with Trump. For more than a year the hysterical leftist media predicted he could never become president, and now after they've completely discredited themselves, they have just as hysterically announced his pending impeachment since the moment he took office. I have never seen such blatant propaganda in my life, in any country, ever.
  • Call.Me.Ishmael
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    7 years ago
    Some blatant propaganda from Ben Shapiro writing for that hysterical leftist rag, "The National Review". [view link]
  • RandomMember
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    7 years ago
    Quote from Ishmael's National Review article: "But many conservatives refused to acknowledge the two points about Trump that should have given them cause for concern, even if they believed the somewhat flawed meritocracy-character link. First, Trump didn’t earn his magnate status; Trump inherited a massive amount of wealth from his father and, by most available estimates, has significantly underperformed the real-estate market."
  • RandomMember
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    7 years ago
    ...anyway, wouldn't be surprised if Mueller concludes that there's not enough evidence to prosecute Trump or anyone else.
  • anonlvone
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    7 years ago
    The National Review is no better than the National Enquirer. It's nothing but a rag for NeoCons. Since you obviously didn't notice, Trump had to fight the so-called Republicans even more bitterly than he fought the Democrats, because the Republican party has been hijacked by RINOs and NeoCons. I think I have a copy of the National Review somewhere. Let me go find it because I need to take a dump and I'm out of toilet paper.
  • twentyfive
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    7 years ago
    Actually if you are a Republican you want this resolved asap, midterm elections are coming up and either dump him, or ride that horse for as mileage as they can get from him. My own guess is Trump will bail and leave the neo cons swinging in the breeze.
  • Call.Me.Ishmael
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    7 years ago
    Discounting any publication that doesn't exactly align with your opinions is a great way to shield yourself from contrary opinions regardless of merit. But, sure, I'll play. What news sources do you regard as "non-raggy"?
  • skibum609
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    7 years ago
    Journalism died a long time ago and not one news source in this world is trustworthy. read them all and use common sense to get to the truth.
  • RandomMember
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    7 years ago
    @Papi wrote: "I wonder how many millions they are gonna spend on this investigation which will likely not lead to anything" -------------------------------- Pretty much agree. In a practical sense, there's no choice but to appoint a special prosecutor after Trump fired Comey (for hurting his feelings). Investigation could well go on for years and amount to nothing--which would make the Democrats look foolish and actually help the GOP in 2018.
  • anonlvone
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    7 years ago
    To follow up on what skibum said: 1) It's now legal for the US government (i.e. the "deep state" that is fighting Trump) to conduct propaganda in the continental United States. That's because an amendment to the NDAA which was sponsored by Mac Thornberry (R-Texas) and Adam Smith (D-Wash.) removed the protections put in place by the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948, which forbade the use of psychological operations to influence U.S. public opinion. 2) Comey, in addition to covering up evidence that Seth Rich was murdered for providing documents to Wikileaks (and thereby protecting the fake Russian narrative) pushed by Obama and Clinton, also testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee on May 3rd that he was never pressured to abandon his investigation. So either he was lying then or he is lying now, either way, if it was possible to shred his credibility any worse after failing to prosecute Clinton, he just did so by effectively announcing that he perjured himself while giving testimony. Trump should have fired him the moment he took the oath of office.
  • londonguy
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    7 years ago
    Are they giving odds on him being a one-term President yet? The Russians must be laughing their asses off at what's going on in the U.S. right now.
  • RandomMember
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    7 years ago
    Betting odds that Trump will be impeached in 2017: [view link] @Anonlvone: Never mind the "hysterical leftist media." The only truly hysterical comments in this thread come from you.
  • twentyfive
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    7 years ago
    @Randommember Will his resignation count as if he had been impeachmed and found guilty ?
  • RandomMember
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    7 years ago
    ^^^ Good question, @25. Assume that resignation does *not* count as impeachment over at PredictIt.
  • Mate27
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    7 years ago
    SkiBum has a great point about journalism. An intelligent person will realize that any media outlet should simply be a messenger, yet capitalistic tendencies have them blur the lines and distort as much history as they possibly can in order to manipulate the ratings. They(media) do get their Revenue from advertisers, so ratings would garner more revenue from high paying advertisers. I laugh at so many people repeating g what they get from media just to try and sound smart or add to the gossip. We are lucky to live in a country that allows the freedom of speech, but widen up a bit and ignore 99% of it and focus on what your own eyes and hears experience. The telephone game teaches you all you need to know about the media.
  • Mate27
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    7 years ago
    Londonguy, the Russians have nothing else. Enter to do to entertain themselves other than laugh at their ruthless hacking prowess. I'd never trust one at my age, because I've never met one I could. By the way, you can't discredit the President just because he inherited wealth from his family. If anything he should be commended for turning his inheritance into something way bigger than what he started with. He's not all hat and no cattle, Trump actually can fill up a 10 gallon hat with his contacts and experience.
  • warhawks
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    7 years ago
    One theory I've heard is he will just resign at some point when he's either had enough or feels it's just not worth the hassle any more. His life before becoming president was a heck of a lot easier without all the hassle and responsibilities.
  • san_jose_guy
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    7 years ago
    According to Howard Stern, he never expected to win. What he wanted was just to be positioned to negotiate more money for his The Apprentice show. This would also explain why he ran in the way he did, as SoCar's Nikki Haley said, "The loudest voice in the room." SJG
  • Mate27
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    7 years ago
    Squawk box
  • sharkhunter
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    7 years ago
    I've been ignoring the news for the most part since I think it doesn't matter much as far as US politics go. Election is over at least for 2 years for congress, 4 years for president unless enough people want Pence to be President including the current one. Everything else is crying over spilled milk or a lost election. Dems should stop their crying and moaning and obstruction but I guess they want to drag everyone down to hell with them.
  • san_jose_guy
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    7 years ago
    As I read the Constitution, if 2/3 of both houses wants it, they could actually impeach Trump and then install anyone they want. It does not have to be someone in the official order of succession. So then they could just leave Pence where he is, or they could even impeach him at the same time as Trump. Having that 2/3 really would give the Congress unlimited and arbitrary power. That kind of power is necessary when a country is self-destructing. But, I think it unlikely that there would really be cause to impeach Pence. SJG Royal Gigolos - California Dreamin [view link]
  • twentyfive
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    7 years ago
    @ shark hunter I too have been watching very little news but it seems to me if this president would stop flying around on his broom, picking fights with everybody and anybody and concentrated on his supposed agenda our whole country would be better for it. Like I said earlier on this post Trump is his own worst enemy.
  • Mate27
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    7 years ago
    ^^^ I am very happy Trump has picked a fight with the media, even though he does it in a hypocritical way. There's a lot to dislike about him, yet nor giving a shit who's ass is being kissed is refreshing to say the least.
  • twentyfive
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    7 years ago
    @Meat I disagree he was elected to be president of the United States he has a responsibility to serve the greater good which in my humble opinion means doing the things I that speak to the entire country and as a public servant he has a responsibility to serve that is what a public servant does, sorry but fight with everybody and anybody over stupid things does not serve the greater good.
  • dallas702
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    7 years ago
    I think there are two reasons for all the screaming, ranting and angst. First, Trump is outrageous. He talks in over the top metaphors and exaggeration. He pushes a lot of emotional buttons, seemingly with intent. He often opens his mouth (or his Twitter connection) before engaging his brain. All of that provides ample fodder for a desperate collection of elected Democrats, an enormous crowd of un-elected federal government workers, the even larger crowd of people who have benefited from the largess of the last 8 years, and the corporate liberal media who gleefully attacks Trump at every turn for ratings and their own self interest. The second reason is that President Donald Trump is successfully undoing a lot of the socialist "big government" framework put in place by Obama. Whether you think him an idiot or a good guy doesn't matter, he has rescinded most of Obama's 2016 executive orders and is working to eliminate much of the rest. Most of the "anti-Trump" crowd seem to fear Trump as much as they hate Trump. If Trump is able to outlast the screaming rants, absurd demands to impeach, fact free claims, bombshells without merit, and stage whispered innuendo, he may - in 4 or 8 years - actually reduce government, stop the unsustainable deficits and, most damaging to the left, limit the scope and power of the federal government. He was elected because he promised to undo the Obama changes that a majority of Americans did not agree to, and because the "Hillary" alternative was just too repulsive to many voters. As long as he keeps enough of his promises, he will continue to have enough support among voters to stay put. The rest of it is just noise.
  • RandomMember
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    7 years ago
    @Dallas wrote: "He talks in over the top metaphors and exaggeration." -------------- Actually, that would apply to most of your posts, @Dallas. In Trump's case, it's more a matter of metal illness and cognitive problems. @Dallas wrote: "stop the unsustainable deficits" ------------------- If you're paying even the least bit of attention, @Dallas, Trump is proposing massive tax cuts for the rich which everyone agrees will explode the deficit. If you can, take a look at Trump's most recent interview in the economist. People are calling the interview a "word salad" and a massive "senior moment." Tax cuts are good idea when unemployment is high (e.g. 2008) but is exactly the wrong thing to do when we are at full employment, as we are right now. It's always hard to wade through your horseshit, @Dallas. Almost never anything of substance to actually argue about.
  • Alterego4401
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    7 years ago
    President Snowflake
  • Dougster
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    7 years ago
    ^^^ Lol. You caught that last night? Super funny shit. Poor little Donny.
  • Dougster
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    7 years ago
    I'm not sure classical Keynesian'ism the right approach, when you talking treasury rates as low as they are, and the potential to cause ACCELERATED GROWTH. That one I think Trump got right. And I think have more nukes and more modern ones would be good for us.
  • Dougster
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    7 years ago
    Maybe Donny needs to setup a safe space in the WH, where there are no TVs playing CNN and all that fake news bullshit.
  • twentyfive
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    7 years ago
    @Dallas actually the screaming ranting is indicative of megalomania so far as the rest of the statement you published is not indicative of anything new or relevant. Let's agree to disagree One thing many of his defenders here are practicing McCarthyism whether you know it or not. Just because we disagree with your points vehemently does not make anyone less patriotic, this authoritanist is going to get his head handed to him eventually and it won't be the Democratic more likely it will be McCain or Graham or possibly Ben Saeer that will turn the tide just wait and see.
  • anonlvone
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    7 years ago
    @Dougster - It's not a matter for debate. Harvard just proved that the liberal media has been on a witch hunt against Donald Trump since he declared his candidacy. [view link]
  • RandomMember
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    7 years ago
    ^^ I wonder in what possible way this proves the media is on a "witch hunt?" Outlets like the NY Times and the Washington Post have feature articles where getting the facts straight is the only thing that matters. And they do a terrific job. Both have editorial writers with a well-known liberal bias.
  • anonlvone
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    7 years ago
    @RandomMember - At first I thought you were just a special kind of stupid. But no one could possibly be as dense as you pretend to be. No, you're just a troll. Don't feed the trolls.
  • RandomMember
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    7 years ago
    ^^^ There's no witch hunt, dipshit. In the case of the NY Times and Washington Post, this is Pulitzer Prize level journalism reporting on a president who profoundly ignorant.
  • RandomMember
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    7 years ago
    LOL! @Anonlvone complaining about the "hysterical leftist media," then spewing the board with his own hysteria.
  • anonlvone
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    7 years ago
    I'm not surprised you got banned from [view link]. You're either a complete moron who couldn't have an original thought to save his life, and therefore can only regurgitate what you're told to believe by the mainstream propaganda networks, or else you're just a very bad troll. Either way, I'm not wasting any more time on you.
  • RandomMember
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    7 years ago
    I'm not surprised you got banned from [view link]. LOL! Huh??? Here's my objective summary without @ananlvone's bizarre hysteria: 1) Everyone agrees that the Russians hacked the DNC and tried to influence the election. 2) There's apparently no evidence at this point that Trump colluded with the Russians. 3) Trump fired Comey, apparently because Comey hurt Trump's feelings. 4) Trump is not a King and this is not a banana republic. We have a system of checks and balances. 5) Ron Rosenstein was forced, therefore, to name a special prosecutor. Again @Ananlvone, you come of as an hysterical dipshit, and I'll continue to call you out as such.
  • chessmaster
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    7 years ago
    Lol. Fuck that Faggit Donald trump.
  • anonlvone
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    7 years ago
    No, you drooling idiot, everyone does not agree that the Russians hacked the DNC. The only source for that claim comes from a company called Crowdstrike, employed by the DNC, whose credibility has been repeatedly questioned. When the FBI requested to examine the DNC servers that were supposedly hacked, the DNC refused. There is therefore, and never has been, any evidence that the Russians hacked the DNC servers. Furthermore, even if the DNC servers had been hacked, attribution would be difficult to assign, as any legitimate IT professional would tell you, which of course is why the DNC went running to a questionable firm such as Crowdstrike, which is known to sell "attribution as a service". Now shut the fuck up before you start making SJG sound like a genius in comparison.
  • RandomMember
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    7 years ago
    @Anal-lvone There was an unequivocal conclusion from three intelligence agencies that Putin tried to influence the our election and discredit Hillary Clinton. Do you really think the pseudo-intellectual tech gibberish from an hysterical dipshit like yourself on a stripper board would carry weight over the official proclamation of three government agencies? Objectively, dipshit, the Russians tried to influence our election. There's no evidence so far that Trump colluded with the Russians. We had to appoint a special prosecutor because Trump fired the FBI director. That's how our country works; this is not a banana republic.
  • RandomMember
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    7 years ago
    There's no witch hunt, dipshit. Trump brought this whole process on himself.
  • anonlvone
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    7 years ago
    Congratulations. You're now on Ignore. Even SJG didn't reach that level.
  • RandomMember
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    7 years ago
    It's funny how multiple right-wing dipshits put me on ignore for stating rational arguments.
  • Dougster
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    7 years ago
    @RandomMember: Think Jack Nicholson. "They can't handle the truth!"
  • anonlvone
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    7 years ago
    The quotation, dumb ass, was "You can't handle the truth!" Nonetheless, the quotation is oddly appropriate, because anyone who thinks intelligence agencies have anything to do with the truth is too stupid to procreate. William J. Casey, "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." Feb 1981, Roosevelt Room of the White House, as reported by Barbara Honegger. Since it seems you can hardly be bothered to post in your own thread, I'm wondering if RandomMember with ZERO reviews is an alias of yours?
  • chessmaster
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    7 years ago
    ^what makes you so certain trump is innocent? come on, nobody makes all this shit up. trump was even overheard telling the Russians "the pressures off" since he fired "nut job" comey. he was colluding with the Russians giving them "classified" information. you and all the other trump dick riders are the real dumbasses. or maybe you're not a dumbass and just support trump no matter what. I wonder what stupid bullshit is gonna come out your mouth when trump is impeached.
  • chessmaster
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    7 years ago
    you know, i would have a little, not a lot, but a little more respect for you and all the other trump loyalists if you would just admit you're backing the winning horse(or you think) no matter what instead of trying to justify trumps dumbass decisions.
  • anonlvone
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    7 years ago
    I'm done trying to reason with people who are incapable of thinking for themselves. You're all a bunch of lemmings. As for Trump being impeached, that won't be the end of things, it'll be the start. And if that day comes, the people to blame will be all of you brainwashed lemmings.
  • twentyfive
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    7 years ago
    Actually as a grown up if you are following what is really going on Trump ran for POTUS saying I'm the smartest guy in the room and shit like he knows more than the generals, he's not a politician etc. now he is president he says stupid shit, he actually brought this investigation on himself with his completely unfounded tweet about being wiretapped by Obama. I'd say not only is he full of snit, he's not the smartest guy in the room, and using the excuse that he's not a politician to explain away his own missteps is disingenuous to say the least. After all the not a politician beat I think 17 experienced Republicans and one very smart Democrat who had excellent advice from her husband a former president himself I tired of you guys and I mean you Trump apologists making excuses for the inexcusable. I have been an independent voter all of my life and in my time I have voted Republican more often than Democrat but this guy is and will be a con man a liiar and a their and if you don't get that too fucking bad. Let's get rid of this lousy piece of trash and vote in a person who when the election realizes that he needs to be the president for all Americans and that includes those that didn't vote for him. That all I have to say tonight tomorrow golf in the morning and going with a buddy or two to a strip club for the first time in the 3 months since my surgery.
  • Dougster
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    7 years ago
    anonlove: Hey, fuckhead. I know what the original quote was. I adapted it to this conversation. Get a fuckin' brain!
  • Dougster
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    7 years ago
    anonlvone: Read more of your post. Holy fuck are you dumb. I wasn't making any comment intelligence agencies. I was say that shit-for-brains right wing kooks like you put others on ignore when they can't deal with the fact or logic. i.e. when they can't handle the truth. Now, go fuck off and try and scrounge up a couple of brains cells.
  • twentyfive
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    7 years ago
    @anonlvone you saying that you are trying to reason with people that disagree with you and then calling them names is kind of contradictory don't you think ?
  • anonlvone
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    7 years ago
    Not really, no. I've been laying out actual facts, and all I get in return is opinion backed up by appeals to authority, which is never proof of anything. RandomMember is a perfect example. "Everyone knows" is not an argument. Pointing to the NY Times or the WSJ is not an argument. I posted a link to a Harvard study that documents what I have been saying for well over a year, which is overwhelming media bias against Trump, 24/7, and RandomMember completely ignores it because it doesn't fit into his deluded, brainwashed world view. So there is a perfect example of someone who "can't handle the truth." Makes you wonder what would happen if our nation were to ever be hit by an EMP attack and all electronics were fried. How would all these idiot zombies ever be able to function without the television to tell them what to believe and what to do? As has often been observed, 1984 was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual.
  • anonlvone
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    7 years ago
    The info I gave about CrowdStrike and the DNC server was not techno-babble in any way. I'm sorry if those who are illiterate or uneducated can't read simple English, but I happen to work in IT, and if I had wanted to get technical I could have. Instead I kept things as basic as possible, and still it went over the head of someone like RandomMember. Not that it matters, if the CIA announced tomorrow that the sun is made of white cheese RandomMember would believe it, 'cuz hey, it's the CIA. Why bother to use your own brain when you can just let other people tell you what to think?
  • twentyfive
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    7 years ago
    Here I am not pointing to The NY Times or the WSJ I am just observing what is going on and applying it to actual statement that Trump himself made, I am a NY native having lived in Brooklyn, Long Island, and Queens till my 42 birthday when I sold a business and moved to Florida where I am now in the same business. Many NYers know about Trump from his made up Resume to folks like myself who actually did business with him and his father before him and I can tell you he is not a man of his word. He always looks for ways to cheat and with the help of his father he cheated many honest business people out of fortunes, you need to realize that the man is a bully if you don't see that fuck all of the news reports just open your eyes stop being a lemming yourself. I did a post a few days ago where I pointed out the absurdity of the Trump supporters by saying he is one fat fuck look at him and tell me he's not. Anyway I can conclude that if you can't even acknowledge the many faults this man has how can we have a rational conversation. He is a vulgar politician who acquired power by pitting people against one another your anger is proof of that. The actual question is can the man use the office he has acquired to help all of us that remains to be seen. He has already used his office to enrich himself and his family that is incontrovertible and not open to debate like it or not it is fact not fake. I will leave you with this putting people with whom you disagree on if more is your right but when you you do that it just shows your own lack of being willing to come to the debate and with our form of government compromise is a form of greatness not a sign of weakness.
  • Mate27
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    7 years ago
    Not that it makes it right because it is wrong, but aren't most politicians the way you described Trump above 25? It just seems like those are the games you need to play in order to get ahead in politics on a grand scale, and Trump was better than Hilary Clinton at that game, at least this past election. I still think we got the lesser of two evils.
  • twentyfive
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    7 years ago
    ^^^I most definetly agree with you @meat that was my entire point let's get real he is one fat fuck if you agree that is a true statement now we can have a real discussion on the pros and cons of policy , but before we can have a discussion we need to find a baseline we both agree with.
  • flagooner
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    7 years ago
    I straddle the line here. I've always found Trump to be repugnant and classless. He can't help but be conniving. I do, however, agree with many of his policy positions, though his implementation has been far from perfect. I think he can lead this country to get back on track IF he matures and is given a chance, at least I hope so. Whether philosophically in line with me or not I hope all of our Presidents succeed in making our country greater, in this case great again.
  • ime
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    7 years ago
    Came across this randomly. [view link]
  • flagooner
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    7 years ago
    Is the writer of that article the same guy that pitches for [view link]?
  • twentyfive
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    7 years ago
    Turning on the news for a few minutes this afternoon I was pleased to see both Melanie and Ivanka in Saudi Arabia with their heads uncovered but I am reminded that Donald was loud in his criticism of Micheal Obama over the same thing three years ago. Fucking fat hypocrite
  • san_jose_guy
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    7 years ago
    ^^^^^ Trump insulted the Muslim couple that lost their son serving in the US Armed Forces. There is not language strong enough to deal with Donald Trump. SJG
  • flagooner
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    7 years ago
    ^ LOL. Micheal Obama. Was that a misspelling for Michael or Michelle?
  • twentyfive
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    7 years ago
    Michelle, the freakin phone changes lots of shit and the new layout makes it harder to proof read before posting.
  • flagooner
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    7 years ago
    :-) True
  • chessmaster
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    7 years ago
    Yes 25, there are lots of hypocrites on the right. Probably lots of hypocrites on the left as well. That said, I listen to the right and left. I listen to the right only to hear what bullshit they're spewing to their listeners. :)
  • Dougster
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    7 years ago
    Not sure who the bigger liars are: those way out on the left or those way out on the left. My father you to say it was like a circle if you went too far to the left you ended up on the right and vice-versa. My take is that if those vary far on the left took over we would all be poorer than the average now. But if the those on the very far right took over all about a silver of the population would have all the money and power, the rest would effectively be slaves or dead.
  • anonlvone
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    7 years ago
    @twentyfive - I don't know how politically aware you are, but from the way you speak, it seems to me you are completely unaware of the fact that Trump had a huge revolt among his base when he started lobbing cruise missiles at Syria, because that is not what we elected him to do. Up until that point, I had supported him wholeheartedly no matter what. After that point, I've been so pissed off I don't even follow politics anymore. Trump is a crypto Jew. I wasn't able to see that before, but I see it now. When he tried to start another war in the Middle East for Israel's benefit, well, that was when the scales fell from my eyes. So I don't need you to tell me that his resume, or his background are fake. I don't need you to tell me that he can be dishonest or a cheater. So does this give you your baseline? None of this really matters all that much though. Another thing you don't seem to realize, is that we didn't vote for a person, we voted for a set of policies. All of you people babbling on about liberals vs conservatives, democrats vs republicans, have no idea what is going on. Did any of you even listen to his inauguration speech? He spoke about taking power away from Washington, and giving it back to the people. That is why we voted for him. We wanted him to kill all those multilateral trade agreements that are destroying this country. We wanted him to stop the fraud of foreign worker visas. We wanted him to stop illegal immigration. We want to stop giving American companies tax breaks to ship American jobs overseas. We want Obamacare killed with fire. We want the individual mandates removed. We want the out of control government bureaucracies to stop telling us how to live our lives. We want the out of control intelligence agencies to stop spying on everything we do. That is why we elected him, not to start lobbying cruise missiles at Syria for the benefit of "greater Israel." Trump was elected to carry out a populist and nationalist agenda, and that is why he has been under relentless attack from both Republicans and Democrats throughout the election and throughout his young presidency, because the Republicans and Democrats, and all of those intelligence agencies behind them, are trying to protect all those vested interests that have been andn are betraying this country. But if Trump is impeached, or if he is compromised, or if he simply fails, then the movement will go on, because as I said before, we didn't vote for a man, we voted for a program.
  • chessmaster
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    7 years ago
    ^"He spoke about taking power away from Washington, and giving it to himself." fixed it for you. :)
  • anonlvone
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    7 years ago
    Fine, you're on Ignore too you worthless piece of shit. "We, the citizens of America, are now joined in a great national effort to rebuild our country and to restore its promise for all of our people. Every four years, we gather on these steps to carry out the orderly and peaceful transfer of power... Today's ceremony, however, has very special meaning. Because today we are not merely transferring power from one administration to another, or from one party to another -- but we are transferring power from Washington, D.C. and giving it back to you, the American People. What truly matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is controlled by the people. January 20th 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again. The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer."
  • Dougster
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    7 years ago
    @anonlvone: Donald Trump isn't leading a movement. As is typical of people with his personality he says what he thinks people want to hear. Now since what people want to hear can change from moment to moment or from audience to audience he ends up tangling himself up in lies rather quickly. Now this doesn't bother his followers who want to believe in their Great Orange Hope. I am going to put it at an 80% chance that we get some documents/recording come up where he has a Zuckerberg moment. "People trust me. Dumb fucks".
  • twentyfive
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    7 years ago
    @anonlvone. First of all what the fuck is a crypto Jew? Next what makes you think that I am unaware of what is going on. Don't know how old you are, but this country is a pendulum it swings to the right ant then it swings back to the left but overall the country runs best the closer you get to the center. The problem of your position is you are an absolutist and your type sees the art of compromise as a surrender of principles and I am telling you you will never get any where without a genuine compromise. Third thing I have been against The Affordable Healthcare Act from the beginning, my take has always get the bloodsucking insurance companies out of there that alone will reduce costs by 30%. Next thing you and your type of jingoism , ranting against illegal immigrants instead of recognizing the truth of the fact, guys like Trump wanted them here and imported them in boar loads when it was to their advantage, then they figured out it was easier to offshore so they no longer want to pay for the mess they created in the first place. Which brings me to my final point, the messenger matters he or she does not need to be perfect but he needs to be acceptable if he wants to get things done in my mind Trump was never acceptable, he is to me the same as Hillary a conniving thief e.g. preaches a do as I say type of agenda and is really a horrible human being.
  • anonlvone
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    7 years ago
    @Dougster - Since you seem to have a reading disability... "But if Trump is impeached, or if he is compromised, or if he simply fails, then the movement will go on, because as I said before, we didn't vote for a man, we voted for a program." "@twentyfive - I don't know how politically aware you are, but from the way you speak, it seems to me you are completely unaware of the fact that Trump had a huge revolt among his base when he started lobbing cruise missiles at Syria" Now unless someone actually has an intelligent point to make, I'm done here.
  • chessmaster
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    7 years ago
    ^agreed. he's just saying what his supporters want to hear.
  • Dougster
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    7 years ago
    anonlvone trusts Donal Trump. What a dumb fuck.
  • anonlvone
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    7 years ago
    @twentyfive - A crypto Jew is someone who secretly practices Judaism while pretending to belong to another faith.
  • anonlvone
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    7 years ago
    @Dougster - For the second time you stupid turd, LEARN TO READ ENGLISH OR ARE YOU JUST HOPELESSY RETARDED? "Up until that point, I had supported him wholeheartedly no matter what. After that point, I've been so pissed off I don't even follow politics anymore."
  • Dougster
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    7 years ago
    Oh, sorry. You were a dumb fuck until he bombed Syria (about the only thing he has accomplished and a good thing, btw.) Now you are a no longer a dumb fuck. Ooops, except you believe that he was leading a movement which will survive. Yeah.... Okay!
  • Mate27
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    7 years ago
    Lol!
  • twentyfive
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    7 years ago
    Your man Trump is speaking now and his opening remarks just threw a large portion of his base under the bus, he invoked the spirit of Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
  • twentyfive
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    7 years ago
    So you don't like the fact that he bombed Syria too fucking bad he's the President he can do that if he like and for the record your man don't give a flying fuck about his base which was my point I guess you don't really get it.
  • chessmaster
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    7 years ago
    ^if they got that he "don't give a flying fuck about his base" they wouldn't have voted for and supported him!!! (btw I'm of the belief no politicians give a fuck about their base but they at least keep up the illusion.)
  • twentyfive
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    7 years ago
    You're right chess , but stupid people hate being called stupid!
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