U.S. Air strikes in Syria
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FUCK IT!
More trouble in the Mid East. Word is we've launched Tomahawk cruise missiles against the Syrian military.
That gas attack against civilians was terrible but I wish we would stay out of it. That shit in that area of the world will never end or get solved.
That gas attack against civilians was terrible but I wish we would stay out of it. That shit in that area of the world will never end or get solved.
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Praise Gawd
Nuke Assad!
Nuke Assad!
With Obama Russia, China, Syria, Iran, North Korea, and many countries did whatever for 8 years..no one feared Obama
Now if they had sent a tactical nuke over...
And that's why I wish we would just stay out of it.
Assad is brutal dictator but he's occupying and fighting isis and as long as he's around they will be weakened and he hasn't posed a threat to us. Get rid of him and we have another unstable situation that turns into a bigger breeding ground for terrorists than it is now.
I see the point of a limited strike to tell him to not use chemical weapons but history says if he is deposed something worse will take his place.
That might be a war crime. Not that they would ever put an American on trial for one, but...
Stamp collecting never looked so good.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing. With great power comes great responsibility. Those who have the ability to act, also have the responsibility to act. Do these quotes and platitudes apply to the modern era and real world?
The American Century happened because America intervened in World War I. The Second World War happened because the allies did not help Germany rebuild. Cold War aside, the relative peace happened after WWII because the allied powers helped the axis powers rebuild. However, recent history shows that Muslims are not as open to representative government as the Japanese and Europeans were.
Bottom line: The use of chemical weapons against a civilian population is an atrocity. It is a criminal act, even in wartime, and all involved should be charged with a crime against humanity. The use of cruise missiles was not merely symbolic, it did destroy the airbase and degrade Assad's ability to attack again. However, if we are to have learned anything from the mideast conflict dating back to the Soviet invasion if Afghanistan, it's in for a penny, in for a pound.
There are no easy answers to Syria. Limited strikes will probably have little impact. But a large intervention would cost the lives of thousands of American troops and use up billions of dollars. And when we leave, Syria would become another Iraq.
Once the world is no longer dependent on the middle east for oil their money and therefore their power base is gone. No money, no weapons, no more worrying about offending the tin pot wacko dictators in the area. You simply tell them: behave or we will not send you food!
We tolerate their behavior because they have something we (the west) needs, once we do not need it anymore we can simply tell them to behave or else. I realize that this is oversimplified but until they no longer have a knife at Europe and Japan's throat we can never truly get tough. Have you noticed that "oil producing" countries are mostly ruled by crooked dictators. Venezuela, Nigeria, Libia, Iran, Russia, and Saudi Arabia for example. Without oil revenues they could not support terrorists and could barely feed their subjects.
Only Russia has enough military to worry about and no oil mean Israel's economy would be the strongest in the middle east. No oil = no money = no power.
That being said, I'm not opposed to retaliation for poison gas attacks against civilians. Pity the gas attacks were ordered by Putin through his puppet Assad, but we can't exactly bomb Moscow so we attack Syria.
Donald Trump tweet from September 2013:
"AGAIN, TO OUR VERY FOOLISH LEADER, DO NOT ATTACK SYRIA - IF YOU DO MANY VERY BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN & FROM THAT FIGHT THE U.S. GETS NOTHING!"
7:20 AM - 5 Sep 2013
To avoid a confrontation the Ruskies were warned, you have to figure that they in turn warned the Syrians. Anyway this wasn't about killing people it was about weakening Assad and sending a message.
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It's possible that Trump's trying to "change the subject," but it seems more likely that he lives in the moment and reacts to whatever he sees on TV.
If you're trying to understand motives, why would Assad use chemical weapons when he could just continue slaughtering people with conventional weapons, and not draw attention? What's Assad's motivation to provoke Trump and the US?
IDK - maybe b/c he doesn't give a fuck about those people - and using chem weapons is more effective and more demoralizing?
"... What's Assad's motivation to provoke Trump and the US ..."
IDK - maybe b/c he did it b/f and pretty-much got away w/ basically a slap on the "war-criminal wrist"? Maybe b/c of Trump's previous anti-involvement comments he thus calculated Trump would do even less than Obama? Maybe b/c Vladimir told him "don't worry Donny's my boy; he good people and won't get in yo biz"
Quote of the month from Papi!!!! LOL
When asked if Syria "stepped over a line" in regards to Obama's quote and subsequent failure to punish Syria, WITH Trump's hearty endorsement I might add, Trump said they stepped over MANY red lines. A few days later the attack.
While it scares me that Trump actually does anything besides tweet, in this case I think it was good for him to make our enemies think before their next war crime. Just like Putin does.
There you go i fixed it for you. You continue to flash your hypocrsicy and hate anything not done by a liberal. Everything you're complaining about here are things you would support if the Clinton's or nobama were behind it. Remember wag the dog?
Okay, seriously: point out my hypocracy. I don't like when you address "liberals" as I don't identify with any particular cult.
This isn't so much liberal v. conservative, anyway. Very likely Hillary would of taken military action, too. The real issue is that Trump seems to have change his mind within a period of two days in the most impetuous way, without consulting Congress or the United Nations or without having any rational long-term plan in place. Pretty scary having such a novice making military decisions.
An earlier version of your hypocrisy is when I brought up your false compassion for your comment that you wished your wife was killed in the World Trade Center attack and you responded saying you weren't compassionate.
A month or two later you posted about yourself being a compassionate person and I brought up your previous comment saying you weren't compassionate regarding your wife. Your genius response was oh you were surprised that I remembered that.
The above are 2 points in time when you lived up to your false bullshit. There are others that have been brought to your attention by myself and others but of course a brilliant educated guy like you either chooses not to remember them or maybe it's because you're one of those less informed and educated people you spoke of above in this thread and you can't remember shit.
And now you say you don't identify as a liberal. Funny!
I saw that past u-tube vid Mikey posted of you playing guitar, calling it atrocious hacking would be kind, it's on par with your comedic attempt at a comeback. Hopefully you have a real job to fall back on because being a bad guitar playing bad comic hypocrite liberal can't pay much.
Gassing babies should change anyone's mind.
w.r.t. Congress - they are good for nothing except campaigning and keeping the status-quo to make sure they get reelected every term cycle - and the UN; you're better of consulting the boy-scouts; UN is corrupt and filled w/ bureaucrats that are unable to disentangle themselves from the mountain of red-tape.
Nikki Halley had been the first prominent Republican non-candidate to bash Trump during the campaign. But she comes across good as UN Ambassador. She has credibility because of how deftly she'd handled the Confederate flag issue.
By contrast, Jeff Sessions is always an embarrassment.
That Syrian airbase, those are not just hangers, those are concrete aircraft sized bunkers.
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This campaign puts out a distorted view of pornography. Trying to impose a hearts and flowers view of sex.
And as far as actual sex trafficking, by far the place a child is most likely to be sexually abused is the family home, and the most likely abuser is a biological parent.
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Planes are taking off from the same runway. Bombing by Assad has resumed. Assad gets to show the world that he stood up to a superpower.
It was not an example of leadership. Nothing has changed in Syria.
Are you pro-slavery? Because passover celebrates the liberation of the Israelites from Egyptian slavery?
Are you anti-semitic? Lamenting that the Jewish religion exists even to celebrate passover?
Are you atheist? Why can't you live without faith, without mocking those who have faith?
Or is it something else?
I make ironic Christian jokes too.
Speaking if mankind waging war, I was taught that historians agree the "total war" concept began with the Napoleonic wars. Regardless of how that concept was executed from 1810-2007; all civilized nations have agreed that chemical weapons are weapons of mass destruction. The focus should be on the use of WMDs against an area populated with civilians. That changes everything. I think the response from the US did not go far enough. The airfield from which those strikes were launched should have been obliterated. Trump is not playing a game of "wag the dog". Assad used WMDs against women and children. Trump is doing what he said he would do, which Obama never did.
Slavery was legal in the US not all that long ago, and those who opposed it were criminals. BTW, Exodus never happened; there were no Jewish slaves in Egypt at that time.
Although, whether in Ancient Egypt, Civil War America, or modern ISIS-held territory, slavery is not a legal or political dispute, it is a moral dispute. I would also argue that God has always intervened, through Moses in the Book of Exodus, through the generals and soldiers of the Civil War ( I think Lee may have taken a dive during the Battle of Gettysburg), WWII, and even through the slow recapture of ISIS territory today.
I don't honestly think you back slavery, Rockstar, but I do think you need to quit trying to defend your indefensible comment.