OT Request: Juice Poker Tutorial

Mostly depends how far along in the tournament you are. You're a tight nit at the start and a raging maniac at the end. In some circumstances you'll go all in without even looking at your cards if the blinds are big enough.

very good thread my friend well at least for fellow poker player that love strip clubs witch you would think would be a lot but seems not to be the case lol

you question can only be answered after some questions of my own

is it a normal tournament ? or a Turbo ? or Hyber ?

is the stack deep stack starting out ? average ? or Short stack ?

close to being under the gun the tighter you should be when raising into the pot.. big hands like AA KK QQ JJ TT AK AQ and no lower

closer your to the button you can open with a raise more loose like the same as above plus AJ AT KQ KJ KT QT QJ JT

you can limp into pots from any postion to try and hit a str8, flush or small set as long as your limping in

a lot of chips can be gained just buy waiting to play any two cards heads up in the big and small blinds just by reading the villain

if its a all in and your tournament life is on the line you best have AA KK QQ JJ or fold

you really want to try and avoid all in as much as you can...usualy saved for short stack play when you need to gamble just to get back into the game

if your tournament life is not on the line basicly the less the chips you have at risk the wider the call.....especially in a KO tournament when you get paid for traking some one out...then you can gamble much more

I once called a all in once because I was the chip leader with $100,000 and the all in had $15,000...I had 72 and he had AK....gues what lol....yep the 7 hit the river lol

You know I've done a little of the opposite of what you mentioned. When starting and the blinds are low, I will play a lot of crap I normally wouldn't. Then if I'm lucky enough to get to, say the last 20 people I play a lot more conservative.

I think a lot of it is just luck. In live tournament action, one time I was down to 800 chips and the tournament started with 10,000. I ended up winning straight out (not chopping with anyone). Just last week very early in a tournament (again live, not on-line) I flopped a full house and this one other played kept calling me, on the river she made a ridiculously high raise, I called, and she had freaking 4 of a kind. Never saw that coming I figured at best she had a better full house.

On-line still has me quite baffled, I have trouble reading people behind a computer screen, then again I find people on line make many more wild decisions than they would at an actual poker table, and it's taking me time to adjust to that.

I also agree with what dougste posted...that in general is true

Juice, my response above was to Dougie's comment.

Usually normal or turbo tournaments and it seems the starting chips are short (1,500) or (10,000)

Isn't online dominated by bots now?

Juice has reminded me why I don't play on line or casino poker...

I enjoy live tournaments - on-line is a whole other world.

Dougster that is the common fear...if the bots happen at low stakes they suck but it's possible could be why high stakes poker had died off from online poker

Online is better used as practice...the games are hard to beat because so many people are regulars and taking it seriously

Live games are filled with drunk fish on the weekends and very profitable even at the $2-$5 level

Faster and lower the starting stacks the more of a gamble you must take and luck is very big...you can't wait for hands...shoving any ace or pair is like AA or KK in those games

Deep stack and average time limits play more like a cage game and has less luck and gamble...you can afford to fold for a better hand

Tournament is more for fun...the money is in the cash games if you wanna pay bills

Although with the correct structures and bankrolls tournament poker can be played for a living it's just more difficult and has way more variounce

Juice is right, but a lot of people don't know what they're getting into when playing a no limit cash game.

I've won $800 in 15 minutes of play and I've also lost $300 in 20 minutes of play. You need to know when to get up and walk away, (running with your winnings or licking your wounds) and that's the hardest thing to do!

My rule of thumb is weather I double up or bust out its time for a hour brake..freshen up...then get back into the action

I agree with you Buddy

A lot of the choices you make is math based

When you play live you can added in reading someone along with the math...I usually talk when I'm heads up in the pot...it's amazing how much information people give you when you ask them questions lol...

I don't gamble--except when I fuck strippers bareback.

^^^ I hope strippers aren't gambling with you when they eat your lasagna!

LMFAO funny crack on jack lol

Also being in the money, the money bubble, final table bubble and things like that are also things to factor in your choices on calling All ins

Being honest tournament poker is a different animal than cash games. Two totally different strategies.

Poker tournaments is all about just surviving and not busting out...kinda like a WWE Royal Rumble Match

In a cash game you will make choices that may have lost you money in the short run but making that same play one thousand times to hit the long run will actually net you a profit

In low stakes online, really anywhere but especially online, it's all luck. Too many morons out there who play erratically and get lucky. As the stakes go up you obviously get less of that but it's still there. Any time I play poker I play tight unless I get desperate or get up big. To me that was generally profitable but also made for pretty boring play, particularly in a live scenario.

AJ is the chump's game

JackKingOff Suit is actually the real chumps game lol

That's actually my favorite hand and yes it's because it sounds like jacking off lol

Jest that's the thing profitable poker isn't exciting poker...it's always boring

What isn't boring is playing stakes cash or tournament like $300 and up and that pay off is worth the hours of boring play

So jest can't win at low stakes poker because the competition is so bad. If only they were better he might have a chance.

Fishies and schooling?

Ah, Morton's Theorem. Been a while.

Nice strategy lol...can't win at low stakes with the fish and donkies LMFAO

Why I went a long time without playing Juice, found BJ and VP more entertaining. Though last time I was in Vegas I played a couple of dailies at Aria and actually enjoyed it a lot, play was pretty solid and it had a good pace. I'd said I wouldn't play live anymore but I'd go back.

I honestly can't wait until this poker bubble burst and people give up the dream of playing poker professional then stop studying then just play like they would a slot machine because then the money will be soooo easy to print

The movie Rounders sort of got it going, but it was really TV which educated the masses how to play better.

Great movie though!

I agree with this it's also why I'm studying old versions like 7stud and new game like Omaha