Maiden in Distress vs Spoiled Princess
Subraman
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There's a pattern many strippers use with their regulars ... they go from crisis to crisis, "I'm going to get kicked out of my apartment if you don't give me $400", "My car broke down and if you don't send me $300 I won't be able to get it fixed and I'll get fired", etc. You can see extreme versions of this in gawker's reports, and MrDeuce has a doozy over in Articles right now. But I imagine all of us who have been doing this for some time have gotten the stripper going from crisis to crisis, asking for money each time. Like most of you, I've fallen for this -- once. It definitely triggers your white knight, "she's in trouble and of all the people she could call, she's calling ME" instincts. Eventually, you realize there's nothing you could really do to help her, plus most of the things she wanted money for were lies anyway. So these days, I'm completely immune to this -- actually, "immune" doesn't do justice to it... if I even remotely sniff this type of behavior, I kick her to the curb and move on, I have no time or money or sympathy to deal with such nonsense.
Which brings me to the point of this. I'm currently playing with a stripper who is setting up her brand (as it were) as spoiled princess. She does not ever call me and ask for $100 for her rent, but she does ask me if I'll pay for her pedi, or she feels like eating steak tonight and would I buy it for her, etc. The context is NOT "I'm helpless, please save me", but "I deserve to be spoiled, I'm your princess". So, here's the admission -- it's totally working on me. We use Venmo to send money, so it's effortless. I will tell you: the girl regularly underpromises and overdelivers -- words cannot do justice to how much joy she's brought to me, and little Subra is unbelievable fond of her as well. She'd be a bargain if she charged me double what she charges me, and there are huge swatches of time that I don't pay her for at all. So I don't want you guys worried that I'm overpaying -- I promise you, even with these little gifts, I feel like I"m the one getting the bargain.
But that's not the point I'm making. The point is, girls who try the white knight hustle on me get the boot immediately; but I'm actually enjoying the spoiled princess hustle. And I love it that she always tells the truth about what the money is going to. She asks me for a mani/pedi, and her nails and toes end up on instagram, and sometimes she even facetimes me from the nail salon. She asks me to buy her dinner, and she and her friends show up on snapchat eating dinner an hour later. She wants some cute lingerie, and I get private pics of her in that lingerie. That may be one of the things I like about it: she tells me the truth about what I'm paying for. Perhaps I'm going through a juvenile phase, because I'm also enjoying her princess-y, I-dont-need-you-but-you-should-spoil-me vibe, much more than the "I keep fucking up my life, and will lie to you to get money" vibe from most strippers
Comments, criticisms, rotten tomatoes thrown from the peanut gallery, all gratefully accepted
Which brings me to the point of this. I'm currently playing with a stripper who is setting up her brand (as it were) as spoiled princess. She does not ever call me and ask for $100 for her rent, but she does ask me if I'll pay for her pedi, or she feels like eating steak tonight and would I buy it for her, etc. The context is NOT "I'm helpless, please save me", but "I deserve to be spoiled, I'm your princess". So, here's the admission -- it's totally working on me. We use Venmo to send money, so it's effortless. I will tell you: the girl regularly underpromises and overdelivers -- words cannot do justice to how much joy she's brought to me, and little Subra is unbelievable fond of her as well. She'd be a bargain if she charged me double what she charges me, and there are huge swatches of time that I don't pay her for at all. So I don't want you guys worried that I'm overpaying -- I promise you, even with these little gifts, I feel like I"m the one getting the bargain.
But that's not the point I'm making. The point is, girls who try the white knight hustle on me get the boot immediately; but I'm actually enjoying the spoiled princess hustle. And I love it that she always tells the truth about what the money is going to. She asks me for a mani/pedi, and her nails and toes end up on instagram, and sometimes she even facetimes me from the nail salon. She asks me to buy her dinner, and she and her friends show up on snapchat eating dinner an hour later. She wants some cute lingerie, and I get private pics of her in that lingerie. That may be one of the things I like about it: she tells me the truth about what I'm paying for. Perhaps I'm going through a juvenile phase, because I'm also enjoying her princess-y, I-dont-need-you-but-you-should-spoil-me vibe, much more than the "I keep fucking up my life, and will lie to you to get money" vibe from most strippers
Comments, criticisms, rotten tomatoes thrown from the peanut gallery, all gratefully accepted
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It also sounds like you two have figured out a shell game to make the arrangement feel less like prostitution .
For what its worth though, there are a lot of women who aren't strippers who pull the same game though.
the problem I see with a princess is they do expect the knight in shining armor to battle to the death when she gets herself in trouble.
BTW, I've been scarce since going exclusively OTC, and it has been great!
Goos, totally understand, what's right for me won't necessarily be what's right for you. That said, just to be crystal clear, this isn't something I'm "dealing with" -- I am LOVING it. The sex is mind-blowing, the overall price is a bargain, and I'm enjoying it that our fee structure is a little less "leave the envelope on the dresser". I am not in denial about what the relationship actually is, but it's just got a nicer feel to it. If I were not so grounded, I would PREFER an obviously-transaction, "leave the envelope on the dresser" approach, since you're less apt to get confused that way.
When I think of the phrase "dealing with", I think of gawker's and MrDeuce's stories, the ones with disastrous strippers leading disastrous lives trying to find ways to get money out of you to cover their disastrous life choices. And really, everyone else -- I figure most of us have made the mistake of being in something like this at least once, I know I have. THAT is something I was "dealing with", for sure
I misunderstood. i thought these requests were above and beyond the compensation and weren't associated with dates.
You are stroking her ego. Something she obviously craves. Good for the two of you that you found each other.
That sounds like a phenomenal combination.
I admire the chutzpah of your girl for requesting money for things like a mani/pedi or a steak dinner rather than today's motel charge or food for her [allegedly] starving kids, the kind of thing I've been paying. You've found a treasure, Subra!
Exactly. And I, evidently, have a soft spot for the spoiled princess hustle, even though I kick any girl with a white knight hustle to the curb. Weird. I'll have to discuss this with my therapist.
Papi-->"As long as a PL sees it for what it is and is not being a lap-dog and is getting adequate ROI, then it's just a business decision/investment"
Exactly. The ROI is incredible... if it were just average, I'd be telling her to fuck off with the little between-OTC requests.
I'm with you on the pity hustle being a total turn-off. One of the more memorable ones for me was a dancer who said let's not even worry about any money. Let's just get together! Then two minutes later said that she badly needed $400.
I think a big part of what makes the difference is the coercive nature of the pity hustle. It's like saying that you're a horrible person if you wouldn't help a damsel in distress. When it's something like getting nails done, you will just be seen as uninterested if you pass it up.