Chat rooms: a new perspective for me

I love cam girls and I do tip but it's the smallest amounts like 10cents...I find it to be fun and a enjoyable substitute to clubbing for the fraction of the cost lol

I also enjoy making jokes and nagging the other guys on that toss way to much money lol

Via the net, one can view some of the most beautiful women of our world. Nothing wrong with that.

Amen Vince.

Plus if you go true private she can watch you masterstroke it if you wish....I've enjoyed a few sessions and OMG was it delicious

I did some pretty-heavy camming around 2012 which is around when I joined TUSCL and was also becoming a heavier SCer - I like the variety of women and from many different countries that one can find on cam-sites and like that they are categorized - I specifically liked that I could find lots of naturally big-breasted women on cam-sites and types of women that I don't often see in strip clubs - I got prettty bored w/ it though after 2 or 3 months and after the novelty had worne off (plus I was pretty heavy into SCing by this time & couldn't afford to indulge in both) - my fave cam-site was Streamate & on some weekend nights there could be close to 1000 live models though in recent times when I've checked there seem to be less than in the past.

Some will get a Skype, snapchat or str8 up on the phone witch you.

On the cam site advertising on tuscl my free cam I have found bitches that will travel to you or let you travel to them for around $2k and that's the bottom end of this service...it can go as high as $10k.....some bitches may I dare say just might be worth at least the 2k....if I get rich then I will agree to the 10k lol

A lot of young bitches and true 10s DS materials found all over cam sites

Can you loan me a C-note, juice ?? LOL

Lol...

I've taken a look and rejected them as being a lame sex avenue.

I've window shopped cam girls before. For me it gets dull fast. I prefer porn.

JS: thanks for the report, I've always wondered what the appeal is. I have looked at cams way back when, but found they didn't interest me. excuse me if I missed it when I skimmed your post -- what I can't figure out is, you've found a hot cam chick, what do you DO, exactly? Just look at her being hot? Jerk off? I guess I don't quite understand the appeal, I can see hot chicks anywhere and jerking off to a cam girl doesn't seem appealing. Maybe it's a "to each their own" thing.

juice-->"On the cam site advertising on tuscl my free cam I have found bitches that will travel to you or let you travel to them for around $2k and that's the bottom end of this service...it can go as high as $10k.....some bitches may I dare say just might be worth at least the 2k....if I get rich then I will agree to the 10k lol"

I've been playing around with SeekingArrangements since the discussion a couple of weeks ago, and I will say, based on limited experience so far, the number of incredibly beautiful women, who are seemingly willing to do things for decent prices, is astounding. This looks like an entirely untapped new world; I'm going to meet my first girls soon to see how it plays out in real life. There are a lot of camgirls on SA but you can suss them out pretty easily, and there are also a lot of escorts just using SA as a different advertising medium. But from my perception, and talking with a whole bunch of other guys on other forums, there's a whole incredibly beautiful class of "Sugar Babies" who are jotherwise civilians, and any other time in history would not have been part of the sex industry, but the SD/SB "allowance" dynamic allows them to float down the River Denial right to Subraman's loving arms.

^^^anyway, the point I was going to make, but forgot to, is that based on the prices you're quoting, cams seem to be a way expensive and low-percentage approach to this. SA might be a far better environment... we shall see!

I agree with JamesSD, I much prefer porn.

As some of you may know, my retired ATF was a stripper turned camgirl and still cams to this day. She is now 41 or 42 years old. I got turned on when I went into her room, but no other girls (no matter how hot they were) did anything to get my motor running. I think I would get too distracted reading the comments section and thinking how pathetic some of those guys were.

If you think we are PLs, you should see some of those guys. My retired ATF used to tell me stories of her "customers" there were several that were married, never married or divorced that would spend almost all their paychecks on her in tips, and she would tease them that she would meet them, but never came into fruition. One time she even advertised that she would meet her cam customers in person at a strip club in Vegas and they had to pay a small fee (I think it was $100 or $200) for the opportunity to meet her, then they could buy as many VIPs or lapdances as they wished from her. She set it up and several guys said they would come (like around 10 I think) and nobody showed up.

She used to be one of the girls ramming a dildo up herself in front of everyone, now she doesn't even get nude anymore in the public chat and charges big money for private VIPs. She only has a few steady clients but they throw so much money at her she can survive off of them, and apparently works a lot less hours than before on cam.

" and there are also a lot of escorts just using SA as a different advertising medium."

Escorts are expressly forbidden from using SA, but some do slip through. Escorts will not do a meet@greet for free, so it's relatively easy to weed them out. You can also filter SA accounts to those that have edu emails which helps a little. Once you meet someone, it's really hard to fake being a civie college student for any length of time.

Good advice ... the thing is, I'm not just open to civie college students, I'm open -- and honestly, may really prefer -- women in their late 20s, for the same reason I prefer strippers in the late 20s. In my head, I actually think I'm open even to women in their 30s, although I do wonder a bit where her head is at and how her life choices ended with her on SA at a time when most everyone else is stable. Anyway, guess I'll find out the hard way

If you think we are PLs, you should see some of those guys

I agree with that

I have been playing around with cam girls for a few years now and admit to spending too much time and money doing it. I think they show more in "free" chat on chaturbate than they do on Streamate, where I am a member, so you can do the kind of window shopping as a non paying, non member that JS69 reports in his OP. The appeal for me is multilayered. On one hand, I have no expectation of meeting or fucking these girls in real life. Dispensing with that hope will lessen your expectations. Perhaps you could encounter a few of the porn stars at some sort of public appearance (Daisy Destin, Renna Ryan, HotKinkyJo, Sabrina Deep, Roxy Ray, and even the hideous Amy Fisher are on Streamate) but for the most part its a long shot at best. Second, as already mentioned, their are some stunning young women on this site, While not everyone's cup of tea, the plethora of college-girl pussy is truly amazing. Third, like the SC, there is an advantage to being a regular in rooms where the models pay attention. They can see whether you have given them money and in some rooms, the conversations are actually interesting. Like a SC, being polite and spending a little money will get you a long way (and, like the SC, guys fall in love and dump their paychecks at their ATFs). A group of regulars in a "party chat" with a friendly performer can joke, tell stories, play sexy games, chase away trolls, and usually get pretty hot, inexpensive (and often porn quality) gold shows from a willing woman. The gold show (on Streamate) saves the PL from spending his paycheck at the per minute price. If you don't mind sharing (and some guys do), you can get the same type of show as a private (a couch dance in a SC) or exclusive (VIP or champagne room) for a fraction of the cost. The torture is having to sit through the sales pitch (not unlike the pitch a stripper gives for VIP) while guys drag their feet, often over a buck or two, as the performer tries to raise enough to make a goal. Finally, the sheer range of women and the degree of debauchery available is truly impressive. Whether its fetishes or just hardcore porn activities (including lesbians and couples), some of these women will do a lot for a fairly modest price. True, its not physical sex, but it is one-on-one, modestly interactive, and can be a pretty fun way to get off. Obviously the downfall is twofold: it can get expensive and it cuts into SC activities quite a bit for that reason. For the guys getting laid in SCs, this is a waste of time and resources; for the average PL looking for thrills, its just another path to explore. .

By the way I might add that just as in SCs, their are ROBs in chat rooms. Bad shows, non shows, fake sex, non compliance with requests in private, and all the rest of the complaints we have about bad strippers are true in cam rooms. There are tags and member comments in each profile that will help identify these inferior performers before you spend (just as expert reviews on TUSCL give us so much valuable insight). As always, buyer beware and YVMMV (Your Virtual Mileage May Vary)!

So, my old apartment complex had a couple of cam girls living there for a time. One was a milf with a teenage daughter (hence why she lived in an apartment in the city rather than somewhere cheap) and one was the daughters age, probably a roommate they found who was in the industry and wouldn't judge.

The younger one was hot. Both would go to the pool and hot tub in stripperish bikinis. The milf wasn't shy about flashing her tits in the hot tub. I actually got to watch the young one fuck a (less hot) girlfriend in the hot tub one night when they were there with a group, all high on E.

I can only imagine what some guys would have paid to see what I saw for free.

I have a few cam girls I talk to; it's more chat than sexually stimulating. It's no substitute for the club though. I'm amazing how some guys will spend hundreds of dollars on cam girls. I only spend like that on live, warm bodies.