An Aggressive Stripper
JohnSmith69
layin low but staying high
But now I have an aggressive stripper begging to be my sexual plaything. After I told her no more dates, the DS is now begging to have me back. She has called and we had a nice talk. She was very seductive in the way that she reminded me of some our adventures together. She described the best orgasm I’ve ever gave her. She remembered. She told funny sex stories involving us that I’ve posted about before. In the past couple of days, she has begun regularly texting me gorgeous fully nude pictures of herself. They show everything that I know and love. She has promised me sexual nirvana if I will only take her back. She makes me hard as a rock. She is the sexiest woman that I have ever known, and she knows it. She has also mentioned the possibility of a discount, although her heart didn’t seem to be fully behind that particular suggestion. She knows that I’m unlikely to insist on a lower price. I wouldn’t mind insisting on some type of better service, but frankly I’m not sure what it would be. She does it all very enthusiastically.
I thought this was smart too. She told at least a little bit of the truth. She admitted that the money that I pay her is very important to her. I know that’s obvious, but its not the sort of thing that she likes to admit out loud because she is admitting to being a prostitute. But she said that she also values our history, the other things that I do for her, the trips that I take her on, the sexual release that I regularly give her, and that she considers me a friend. I’m not saying that I believed all of that, but there was at least some degree of truth in some of what she was saying. And it was all said with the most seductive, sexy accent that you can possibly imagine.
So who else has had an aggressive stripper practically begging to make your every OTC wish cum true? How did it work out?
Also, is there anything that I should ask the DS to agree to as a condition to our resumption of marital relations besides some type of monetary discount?
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Tell her you have left your job, i.e., have money problems, and as such you now have more time to fuck. But while you don't have the disposable income anymore you are on your way to hook up with her. If she thinks the cash is gone she will leave you alone.
And, no, I've never had a stripper be aggressive like that with me or my money. On the other hand I have had civilian girls act that way. One asked me to co-sign for a brand new car for her. I did not do it.
It doesn't matter what she thinks says or does...if your done be a man and walk away
I'm finished with women manipulation
Another 1000-word essay. Basically, should I continue paying for sex?
1) It's almost impossible for a 55-yr-old man to have a real romance with a teenage girl
2) You're divorced and if paying for sex makes you happy, then you should do it by all means. Why not?
Of course. Ask her to marry you.
In all seriousness, my wife was the one that (temporarily) got away. Except I was the one doing the pursuing and not her. But perhaps in a similar way you feel the DS is "the one" for you. What follows is a serious question: Is she worth it? I think you know the answer. Only you know.
I don't think she's interested in transitioning to civilian life if she's still trying to fuck you for money. I know she tells you that you're her friend, but that's only because you pay her to have sex with you. Once you take her back (I'm sure you will), she will be laughing to her friends and to the guys her age who she fucks for free about how much she has you wrapped around her finger. That is the reality. She is not a reality, she a is a dream you fell in love with because she was your first regular OTC.
She is a prostitute you fell in love with because she was your "first" experience at various basic sexual acts that most of us fulfilled by our 20s because your marriage's sex life was seriously lackluster. You thinking you are in love with her is immature and probably stems from this late blooming midlife crisis that you unfortunately had 15 years after you actually became middle aged.
This is not fun. You are clearly being manipulated, not just by a ho, but by a desperate ho. However, you might be just as desperate for attention and sex as she is for your cash.
I agree with most of what Nina says, but I do think it's possible that JS is actually in love with her. Even if she only loves his money, he could truly be in love with her.
Even if it would not be a betrayal, you also should ask yourself how bringing the DS back into your life would affect your activities with the DC. If it's all about sex, and you would be fine with losing the DC and adding back in the other DSses to make up for the list DC sex, then go for it. If you have something more with the DC that you want to keep, then maybe you should stand fast.
Golfer may be right. One more visit and I may call it quits. Only the strip club gods know for sure.
A desperate ho puts up her $40 special on backpage. The girl JS69 is talking about isn't even making herself available to SC customers in general, but has picked out what appears to be her ATF customer.
From what I have read, nothing is stopping it being the real thing for him except for his perception of her wanting to be a paid fantasy.
Spoken like a true addict haha I love you too much (no homo) and busting your balls.
You might also consider Sex Addicts support group. This is very common. It's a fallacy that the addict is sparing his or her S.O. the embarrassment of keeping the addiction a secret. You are depriving your S.O. of all the information about the relationship, including leaving, should you act on your feelings in a negative way.
I'm sure posting this breaks the "bro code" on here. But I didn't have any good male role models, only bad ones or absent ones.
Here's a support group your DC might need should you decide to open a dialog with her.
http://marriedtoasexaddict.com/lauras-st…
by Wess
July 11, 2012
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As a newly concluded sex addict, I have to say I am astonished at the amount of damage everyone here is putting on display. My wife an family do not know about my addiction (at least yet) but I have seen through your stories the level of destruction I have put them through if they know it or not. If I’m able to end this now with therapy and SAA perhaps I can spare them this pain. Would you ladies have rather not known? I ask with complete honesty and respect.
I have read all of your stories as of date and I thank you. I’m at the end of my three month cycle of forgiving myself, bein fine and on track, not being fine, acting out, hitting bottom and trying to forgive myself again. I decided this time to check out SA meetings and search this website out. I hope your stories will remain with me through these difficult early months
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by JoAnn
on July 11, 2012
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This is why I usually delete all comments from Sex Addicts Wess. Your delusional, totally skewed way of thinking just makes me, and every other woman on this site crazy. I’ll leave this comment up just as an example, but don’t bother writing anything else or I will delete it.
How dare you think that you have the right to deceive your wife and then not come clean in the name of ‘protecting her’. You are not protecting her–you are avoiding any consequences for your actions. This is the same old bullshit that Sex Addicts spew repeatedly when they are still in their denial phase. We have heard it all. A relationship can never survive on a base of lies and deception.
Love equals trust. Trust equals honesty. Your wife will never be safe while you hold your secrets and YOU will never even begin on a path of recovery until you are honest with yourself and with your wife.
She deserves so much better than you.
We have all heard this same rhetoric from our husbands over and over. Eventually it all comes out and we realize how little respect men like you have for us and for the relationship.
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The SA equivalent for the above is: Candeo.
http://candeobehaviorchange.com/healthy-…
At least you are talking someone(s) about it, even if it is just Tuscl. The above is how a lot of women feel on the subject. They are a little more militant but most women would like to know how you are feeling (and acting, as long you don't rub her nose in it). I was raised mainly by women, so I had this drilled into my brain. However, I do recognize not all of the lessons they drilling into me were correct or useful. So make this with a grain of salt and disregard if you want to.
-Dominic
Based on your current situation I'd give her one more goodbye romp. You should do what you can to keep DS interested if it doesn't work out with DC.
ppwh, are you saying you think he could transition this to a "real" -- that in, non-transactional -- relationship? She's made it clear the foundation of this relationship is the $, even if she enjoys the other trappings. Apologies if I'm misreading you
Also, is there anything that I should ask the DS to agree to as a condition to our resumption of marital relations besides some type of monetary discount?"--->
I've never had anything like you describe, JS. My experience with the truly extraordinarily-beautiful extraordinarily-charming girls is that, even if they love our relationship, they always feel they can easily find a new ATF customer (and, IMO, they're right about that). If one of those girls had given me the full court press like this, 0% chance I could resist.
No idea what you could possibly ask for, she seems to be hitting all your sexual desires, she's going on vacations and seeing you as much as you want (and can afford), and you specifically do not want to transition the relationship to non-transactional (at least I hope you don't, and I think you're sane enough to realize what a disaster that would be). If I were you, the thing I"d be thinking about is protocols and operational security -- that is, do you want to change the way she contacts and interacts with you, so as to minimize getting discovered by your new girlfriend? Now's the time to do it, move her from your "real" number to your Sideline number, and do whatever else you need.
Agree completely, that's the point I made in my response to JS immediately above ... my experience with girls like this is, they KNOW they can easily reproduce this type of relationship, although it means "starting from scratch" to find her sucker and get him hooked. I have to think she knows that's an option for her, it's just an option she doesn't want to take, either because she doesn't want to go back to the SC and put in all the work to build it back up, or because she really enjoys the prostitute/customer relationship with JS, or a combination of both.
The way I see it, since she is transitioning back to civvie life and hasn't been back to the club on her own accord, it sounds like the main objection to dating a stripper is no longer there. Anyway, sanity can get old after a while. ;)
He pays her $1000+ per date plus shopping. Of course she doesn't want to lose his business.
It's hard for most people to go from a good steady income to zero and have to start over.
IDK the details of course so IDK how precarious her $$$ situation is and if she's hitting up JS out of serious necessity or just b/c she wants to continue indulging on the gravy-train - but I think we need to be cognizant how we, and more specifically our $$$, affects these girls' lives - i.e. it's very easy for us to often just cut if off w/o giving much thought as to the effect this may have on these girls that have grown dependent on our $$$ - I assume many/most of these girls don't have much of a support to fallback on whether financially or socially and they may find themselves in dire straights when suddenly and completely cut-off from the $$$ they were depending on - I'm not sure what the exact or best course of action is; just that it seems we often fail to take into account how our decisions affect these girls that are often in more precarious/vulnerable positions than we are.
I also personally would not put too much stock on strippers' claims about "going straight" and transitioning to civilian life - I think:
+ they will tell us what we wanna hear and be what we want them to be anywhere from slutty, to full-civilian w/ her shit together - so often it's just them dong or saying what needs to be done/said to keep themselves in ouir graces and the $$$ flowing (they will come up w/ all sorts of excuses)
+ many of them at some level do seem to wanna shift to full civilian life but w/e issues that drove them to stripping is probably what's keeping them from successfully making the shift back to civilian life - not to mention often a significant $$$ hit for many if they leave stripping for civilian life
+ and the truth is many can't or are not ready to make the shift and they either don't want to or may want to but feel or know that they can't hack it in full civvy world
Anyway - those are the perils of these "relationships" and the nature of the beast.
...or she can sleep with a 55-yr-old.
And while you are at it forward the photos of the DS she's been sending! Hey, I know you won't but I can dream, right?
But you still shouldn't be fooling around with her until you turn 18yo.
SJG
Asking her to move in with me is not even remotely an option. Besides the insanity of such an arrangement, we live far apart and are committed to our lives where we are.
I am not going to fuck her in the ass. I've now kissed the damn thing but I still don't want to fuck it.
And no matter what happens, no posting of pictures. But you're welcome to see them at the next meetup.
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That's absolutely untrue. Pathetic men willing to put up $1000/date plus shopping are incredibly rare.
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All deep and meaningful romantic encounters proceed this way -- with your lover suggesting the possibility of a discount.
So John is this DS #973 ?
Really watering down the definition don't you think
Back on ignore
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That's absolutely untrue. Pathetic men willing to put up $1000/date plus shopping are incredibly rare.--->
Is it really $1000? Didn't realize the cost was so high. Agree that this is whale territory for most strippers, it'll be a little harder to replace that.
I know some strippers in Vegas who get that regularly, but that's Vegas. Don't think it's easy to score anywhere else in the country.
Reading between the lines, sounds like she has a felony conviction in a state where that means you can't strip.
Seems she also is still clinging to "I'm not a prostitute ". She's had at least 2 whale sugar daddies, and maybe having to find #3 is what is tipping her internal moral math?
In the meantime, it's clear you still lust for her. Just keep fucking her.
I guess John Smith is a bull shitter himself lol
Definitely staying on my ignorance list
LOL
John that doesn't sound good lol pedophile Alert
And back on the ignorance list you go
For what it's worth, some of these girls seem to develop VERY high level skills at manipulating men, at a very young age. I assume it's partially just natural-born instinct (that is, they are prodigies at this), mixed in with the fact that they were born with just the right conditions (they were very beautiful but disadvantaged) to develop these abilities from a very young age. I met my ATATF when she was 19, and she was already able to effortlessly manipulate men. She was not a stripper when I met her, but her very first night of stripping, she made over $1500, and has shown that's not fluke. It's a pretty amazing skill, I sometimes tease her about it when she starts using it on me -- I tell her that her eyes get bigger, she has this very coy smile, and her voice and tone get somehow smokier and sweeter at the same time... all that, and I'm putty before she even starts saying anything :)
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During his youth, while the other little boys were out playing baseball, @John was in his room reading Harlequin romance novels. The passion and imagery his writings bring to paid sex-encounters with prostitutes is a true gift, and something we should all be thankful for.