Most of us engage in "extra" activities inside and outside the club. It dominates the conversation on this board. For the guys on here that go to "no extras" clubs, they also seem to push the envelope
Would you club as much or nearly at all if all of a sudden no extras, ITC or OTC was not an option?
Personally, I would not go nearly as much if all I could do it stare at the dancers and get an air dance. I'd say I would club at the most 1/5th what I do now.
I can't even tell you the last time I was in a "no extras" club that I didn't at least end up making out with a dancer.
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last commentI'm finding it hard to wrap my head around, because they're strippers, of course OTC will always be available, a lot of them are prostitutes.
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That being said I'm a big stageshow guy, so yes I would still club.
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Agree with larry, hard to wrap your ahead around. But if all of a sudden, no ITC (which I don't care about, I already go to no-extras clubs) or OTC were available, I'd go much much less often. But not never -- SC trips serve more than one purpose for me. Even a plain-old SC trip is a nice stress reliever. And with all my buddies so busy, SCs are one of the things we all make time for, so it's as much male-bonding as anything else. And lastly, in the old days I used to spend an hour at a SC getting all hornied up, then head to an FBSM to finish off, it was a nice model that made the FBSM a bit more fun. I'd go back to that if I had to.
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If pushing the envelope became impossible (ITC and OTC), I'd bow out altogether.
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You guys give a valid point:
Larry goes for the show, Subra goes as something to do with his friends, and also a "pre-game" for meeting up with someone later.
I used to go for the "atmosphere" but now I only go for sex. If sex came off the table I wouldnt have much of a reason to go.
I almost rather just go to a sports bar and watch a game than get sexual frustration. Then again I really like sports...
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I guess that if that happened, I'd have to take up golf.
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I would crack open more four locos then grill some frozen chakin fangers
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I would still go since I usually go for laps and the stage show like larry. But not for air dances, no.
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I'd probably never go back to the clubs.
Then I'd probably hang out on Tinder all day trying to arrange OTC somehow.
Speaking of which, I hear there's a new app called "3nder" for people who want to hook up in a threesome.
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It will never stop me from self stroking my cock in the corner of the club
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What kind of mileage would be available with dances? If I could still get sensual two way high contact dances I would still go but maybe not as frequently.
If it was air dances or one way contact I would not go unless I was with friends for some male bonding.
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I first visited a strip club in the mid-80s. No touching, air dances, pasties, and very expensive drinks. I did not go back to a club for 25 years. Never even considered it. That should answer your question.
Once I was pulled back into a strip club four years ago by a co-worker and discovered the changes (lap dances, touching, no pasties, extras, OTC, etc.) I have not stopped going. And I don't plan on stopping.
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Really? You guys wouldn't go?
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Where I live the clubs are closely controlled. There is no touching ITC, or in the parking lot or anywhere else on the grounds. But still, the clubs are fun, looking, talking, flirting. The cost is lower too. The girls are good looking and really dolled up.
At the underground Mexican bar circuit, it is less controlled. The money goes faster, but it is still affordable fun. And that group of girls is a wilder bunch.
At AMPs, anything goes, but the looks and dolling up standard is lower, and the costs are higher.
At San Francisco strip clubs, in some of them anything goes, but the costs are excessive and there are still big quality issues about time, privacy, and just how relaxed and natural it can be with the girl under those circumstances. And then some of the clubs are really rigged, what I call Clip Joints, selling more expensive fantasy.
So I do look forward to being in other areas, and also to OTCing with some local girls.
Back when I was married I did not want to do OTC as I knew that that would be going too far. That is, FS in an AMP has its limits. But going OTC means an emotional relationship with this 3rd person. That is a recipe for disaster.
SJG
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The absence of extras does not mean air-dances.
If there is good 2-way dance mileage and no-extras: I would go since that is mostly my M.O. (I hardly ever go to SCs with the mindset of extras; when they happen it's sorta "in the heat of the moment") - I also think that most SCers are not extras or bust; even not most TUSCLers (but I could be wrong).
For me 1-way touching or air-dances means my bank-account would be way fatter.
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I would probably go about a tenth as much as I go now.
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Answer for me would be no.
As Limp Bizkit said: it's all about the....
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I wouldn't stop going. I go to converse with hot girls ITC which has made me a Koller IRL. So used to seeing TnA that I can have real conversation with girls without worrying about whether or not I'm going to get laid or get some titity action
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If there were no extras itc, and no OTC opportunities, nothing but air dances, then that would mean that all strip clubs have become show clubs. And I, for one, find it very hard to settle for just a show club. I'd still go but my visits would be infrequent, and I'd save a small fortune.
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Funny thing is, I spent most of my time in this hobby ignorant of extras, but with the fantasy that there was something more to be had. Now that I've experienced extras for a while now, if they went away, the fantasy would also be gone for me too and I'd leave the hobby. I'd still probably go once in a blue moon to just see tits every so often.
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I would go to a non extras non otc club just to chill and have the free buffet and a couple of dances. However I believe this kind of club is theoretically impossible - there are always girls who will play, its just a matter of money and how high the offer.
I am VIP at an extras club. ITC was recently offered to me at $200 in VIP by 20 yo girl. However, a girl which used to dance at the club has been a SB for several years and is at $120. Any new girl I would do would have to be otc, as itc your on their turf, they could give you a crummy experience or rush, etc and nothing you can do.....Plus somebody you don't want around could walk up but this is rare.....
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I'd be done with clubs. I don't need to score OTC every time I club, but part of the thrill is the possibility that I will. If that went away, then for me there would be no point.
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I have been stripclubbing for 40 years. When I am done my lifetime total of OTC will be zero. I will do ITC if it happens naturally, but have never negotiated. My preference would be full contact laps with beautiful women and zero ITC. Before sex because the focus of strip clubs the dancers were better looking and classier. Paying a prostitute is fine, but the only things special about it is special needs. Its like being proud of yourself for buying a steak.
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I'd still go, but not as often, There's always porn. :)
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