Dancer/Customer Friendships
JohnSmith69
layin low but staying high
I've never had a stripper that I thought genuinely wanted to be my friend. I'm friendly to various degrees with all of them, but I'm not a real friend of any of them. Even the DS, wonderful as she is, doesn't truly and genuinely consider me a personal friend. We're a lot closer than most regular customers are with fav dancers, but I'm not her friend except in a business sense. Free girl comes kind of close but not really. She wants me as a fuck buddy but isn't looking for any non-sexual friendship.
I just realized that all of that just now changed. DS III and I have become genuine friends, in a personal and business sense. At first I thought it was just outstanding SS but it's clearly not. There are daddy issues. And a long history of all kinds of betrayal, unfairness and shitty luck. She needs a friend and wants me to be that friend. She's the only one I text regularly with. Only one to come to my house regularly. Only one I discuss certain intimate issues with. Only one who says she can't wait to see me who I believe is telling the truth. Only paid about 50% of what the other two were paid. Only one to be a genuine friend. We aren't best buddies, we aren't in love, none of that bullshit. But at least at a simplistic level, at least right now, we are genuinely personal friends. I find that kind of amazing, especially since she's the youngest one.
PLs, have you ever genuinely been the friend of a dancer that you paid to fuck? Dancers, have you ever considered a paying customer to be a genuine friend? If so what's the story?
I just realized that all of that just now changed. DS III and I have become genuine friends, in a personal and business sense. At first I thought it was just outstanding SS but it's clearly not. There are daddy issues. And a long history of all kinds of betrayal, unfairness and shitty luck. She needs a friend and wants me to be that friend. She's the only one I text regularly with. Only one to come to my house regularly. Only one I discuss certain intimate issues with. Only one who says she can't wait to see me who I believe is telling the truth. Only paid about 50% of what the other two were paid. Only one to be a genuine friend. We aren't best buddies, we aren't in love, none of that bullshit. But at least at a simplistic level, at least right now, we are genuinely personal friends. I find that kind of amazing, especially since she's the youngest one.
PLs, have you ever genuinely been the friend of a dancer that you paid to fuck? Dancers, have you ever considered a paying customer to be a genuine friend? If so what's the story?
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In my years of clubbing I have had 2 relationships with dancers where no money was exchanged. After the first night of meeting them inside the club, I never paid them again for sex or time, but I also never hung out with them inside the club after that.
Yes, I paid for hotel rooms, flights and gifts, but that is no different that what I would have done with a girlfriend. To this day I am still in touch with both of these strippers although I haven't seen either for at least 3 years. One is out of the business and married, the other is a cam model who got divorced about a year ago. I consider them my friends and they check in with me maybe twice a year to see how I'm doing - through an email or a phone call.
I think to really know if you've become a true friend, I would say your get together can't revolve solely on sex and money cannot be exchanged for time or sex. I've had several others where we may just go out to eat, see a movie, but at some point money was exchanged - a tell tale sign that she probably wouldn't be there if I wasn't handing out money.
Oddly I tend to meet these girls at slow, low mileage clubs that aren't my main.
At times she shares all aspects of her life and other times she's almost secretive. She's ashamed of her addiction and tries to hide some aspects of her life but I can tell when she's been using even when she's not high. I've learned an awful lot about the drug trade and it's a filthy, awful existence. I once got an hour lesson on how to cook white (cocaine) into crack from a guy who got out of prison the day before. I've spent evenings with three other addicts who have since died of overdoses ( including one extremely hot young woman).
I'm convinced that she truly wants to be sober and she and I have cried about her inability to stay clean.
Her BF is going to make the difference this time if she makes it. I worry that my attempts to "help" have too often enabled her drug use so I'm backing away, but have obligations to get her to at least 3 pending court appearances ( with close to $3000 in bail money riding on her showing up). The last time I called her mother she sobbed as she greeted me saying she expects to get a call from me saying her daughter is dead. Is that a friendship or what?
I have a number of real friendships, though, proven by the fact that the business relationship is gone. My oldest ex-stripper friendship, I met her around 2001, she quit the biz around 2013 (I'd stopped paying her around 2012, but we stayed tight), she moved across the country, and we just spoke last month to laugh and catch up. My newest friendship, I stopped paying her two years ago, and we are in each others' lives... she calls or texts me almost every day. Those kind of friendships, I think are real.
One was a friend - and a friend of my family. I would go to her club from time to time - and if I saw her we'd chat for a bit. But there wasn't any sales pitch or anything other than a friendship.
The other stripper was a former dancer when we became friends. It was never P4P - but it developed into an fb relationship that involved great sex.
You think you are friends until something happens and you have an epiphany and realize that you've been taken advantage of.
To the question. No, I could never consider any of my OTC honeys real friends. Sometimes it felt like it but it never was. I thought I had a very cool connection with and longer team OTC favorite but, in an instant, she turned high hustle and extremely greedy. I had to fire her. I'll never understand what happened.
I think my closest dancer friendships are with dancers I've only seen ITC without extras. I've partied pretty hard with a few of ladies. I buy drinks but rarely tip. They'll sit with me during their slow periods and we laugh are asses off remembering all the stupid sc shit we did or watched happen. I consider them friends in a way.