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JohnSmith69
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How does this t-shirt promote rape? Seems to me it's the exact opposite -- it encourages women to be clear about their desire/intentions so that a guy can respect what she wants or doesn't want.
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I guess men are just supposed to be mind readers, ready to withdraw the instant her response turns into anything other than an unequivocal hell yes.
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I guess men are just supposed to be mind readers, ready to withdraw the instant her response turns into anything other than an unequivocal hell yes.
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There are some things that shouldn't be made into humor, including rape. Obviously the shirt is protected by the 1st amendment, but I have to question the motives of people who would actually find that funny. Remember that there ARE rape victims, so finding humor in that shirt would be at their expense.
Isn't this true? Unless a woman says no then isn't a guy free to try to get some? I'm not saying he can force her, but if she doesn't clearly say no then most guys are going to push.
I do admit that the sleepy time rapist complicates the issue since he likes to strike when a woman is unconscious.
'Isn't this true? Unless a woman says no then isn't a guy free to try to get some? I'm not saying he can force her, but if she doesn't clearly say no then most guys are going to push.'
Tf? Aren't you a lawyer? Do you REALLY think a man needs an explicit "no" to prevent a man from, as you say, being "free to try to get some"? What about an IMPLICIT "no"? If a woman implies she doesn't want to fuck, but doesn't EXPLICITLY say "no," is a man free to have his way?
I don't think it's all that funny or clever, but if this is what offends you, you lead a charmed life. It's not "No means yes, yes means anal".
And yes I think a guy has every right to try and convince a woman to have sex with him whenever she suggests that she might potentially be interested. If she has no interest, she should just say so plainly and clearly. Instead, some women drag men along to get free stuff from them having no intention of ever putting out. Then they claim to be victimized when the guy thought there was a chance that her maybe could turn into a yes.
Why is it to much to expect that a woman communicate clearly and unambiguously?
I can only imagine the frat guys on spring break saying "she said maybe - and that's close enough for me! Just read what my shirt says!" -
Having kids makes me think of what I'd do if one of my kids was going on a date with a guy wearing that shirt -
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It might be nice for a woman to communicate clearly with a horny asshole. But it really doesn't matter if she's being ambiguous, kryptic, etc; if you don't have consent to fuck her, DON'T. If you want to act like a rapey fratboy and try to coerce her into saying yes, by all means do so --- but wouldn't you feel kind of gross fucking a girl who really didn't want to in the first place? Or is that where your "subtle parenting skills" come into play?
My parenting skills are fine. And I was expressing my concern for the message that others might infer from the shirt.
that said it isn’t promoting rape in an overt way. i mean Bernie Sanders believing that ALL women want to be gang raped is pretty bad compared to this t-shirt.
and of course there is the psycho rapist new world order liberal from san jose who is convinced that anytime a woman falls asleep she is inviting him to crawl through her bedroom window and rape her.
maybe it has something to do with a liberal socialist mindset. so if you are a liberal and pro-rape then perhaps you should consider spending next new years eve in Cologne. those liberal policies on immigration worked out oh soooooooo well for the liberal europeans
i can answer that. Free publicity. How many people even knew what Forever 21 was before they made this shirt?
I myself believe the same as the conservatives: that government needs to butt out. But that includes marriage restrictions, abortion restrictions and drug laws. I'll give the gun nuts their guns if I can have them walk the walk on the rest of government not getting involved in private matters.
and yet you want socialized medicine.
fuck, confusing the issues is part and parcel of what liberals try to do. i swear you liberals have been so full of delusion pretending that reality doesn’t exist because you think your fantasy is so much better. fuck the progressives visiting the new soviet union went on and on reporting to the rest of the world about how utopia had finally arrived when the communists took over Russia despite witnessing first hand, on the ground, the mass starvation, mass executions and near total anarchy. but those details didn’t matter and the outside world certainly didn’t need to read about them because, well gosh darn it progressivism was on the march dammit.
and now you liberals are spouting the same false narrative about another modern day horror - socialized medicine. wtf? talk about government oppression. allowing the government to control and deny you medical care. shit Sweden will not allow a simple PSA test under their utopian socialized health care because there are too many false positives requiring additional tests. note there has never been a false negative but the socialist retards would rather their subjects not get the test because it might cost too much to follow up. oh yeah, Sweden has the HIGHEST incidence of prostate cancer in the civilized world.
and did you see that the new Canadian socialist retard and his administration have ceased allowing colonoscopies under their mid evil socialized health care system. colon cancer as you know is the second leading cause of cancer death and what’s worse is it is a particularly nasty death. it is also one of the most preventable cancers and most curable IF DETECTED EARLY ENOUGH. but Canadians are fuck out of luck because a colonoscopy costs too much so their overlords have decided wtf, we’ll just look for blood in a stool sample. that only costs 49 cents. of course the test too easily misses blood and now get this, by the time blood shows up guess what? it is probably too late anyway. that’s alright. they don’t need all those sick people hanging around clogging up the already unfreakingbelievably long wait lists anyway.
but socialized medicine, universal health care for all paid for by Big Brother. glory hallelujah, utopia on earth. i bet a few million Russian peasants from the last century wished they could have had some of that shit. yessiree bob
shit the world is so confusing. hey san_jose_guy how is that tree house coming?
So it encourages people to consider rape allegations as suspect.
I've talked about helping to put a Pentecostal Daughter Molester into San Quentin. I don't give out his name as his name is the same as the daughter's names. But f2f I talk about the episode and the role of his church continually. Many of the people I've talked with do go in for victim blaming and try to say that it was the minor daughter who was at fault for not stopping it. Or they go with the church and just say that such things don't exist, and besides everyone is supposed to forgive.
So I do take exception to that tee-shirt. I mean in a GFE styled encounter, such a misunderstanding never really could happen anyway. It would have to be when a guy just decided to disregard a girl's objections and refusal to engage in escalating foreplay.
If this guy made the tee-shirt in response to a real allegation made against him, I am sorry that such a dispute developed. But I am not going to take side in it because I have not heard both sides of the story. I do take exception to the tee-shirt. Rape allegations are usually responded to by blaming the victim.
And DoctorPhil and twentyfive, I see the drivel you guys have posted. It really does not even deserve a response.
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So Doctor Phil you only want socialism for insurance companies, they are the actual beneficiaries of The American Affordable Care Act. That is what was really forced on the American taxpayers by the medical care fiasco, that the Republicans forced out of the Democrats, with their filibustering and false statements. The AACA was actually written by lobbyist's when the congress and senate declined to perform their jobs and totally abdicated their responsibilities both sides are negligent almost to a point of being criminal.
I say get the insurance companies out of healthcare period, why does 30% of every dollar spent on health care, both the medical side and pharmaceutical side end up in the bank account of an insurance company. That is really a crime, a major Ponzi scheme, that has been perpetuated on the public.
And to your charge of socialism lets be real, the United States Armed Forces are a socialist organization as are many of our government programs favored by both conservatives and liberals alike so lets stop with the name calling and be realistic, sometimes you win an election and you get to call the shots sometimes we win an election, and we get to call the shots. That's the actual basis of our republic no one group has a monopoly on power so get out and vote for your agenda, as you like but if my side wins, stop your whining and interfering and allow us to govern effectively, and then we might have to do the same.
The Medicare system seems to work well for a number of our senior citizens who use it. So why not use it for everyone?
My employer and I currently spent ~$14K for medical insurance and premiums that I still hardly use because of the deductibles and co-insurance charges. My not apply those funds to the Medicare system?
Phil, Clearly you are projecting... I never said I wanted to "flee" anywhere, nor did I say I'd go to Sweden. I get that your tiny ballsack is crumpled up because your panties are in a bunch over your political ideologies, but please don't project your insecurities of those ideologies (and whatever else might be hitting your grief bone) onto me.
I'm also tired of the "promoting rape culture" line that gets thrown around far too easily these days. Look at the Yale basketball team, they tried to show support for their teammate and got blasted for "promoting rape culture" and caring more about sports than sexual assault.
"There are some things that shouldn't be made into humor, including rape."
This is bullshit. Either everything is allowed or nothing is. It also amuses me to no end how often I've heard women suggest that rape in prison is suitable punishment for a man they disapprove of.