Not trying to get robbed in OTC
MASCULINIST100
When I was new to SCs 10 years ago, I was 30 years old and an attractive 19 year old started chatting me up at the club. She gave me her number and acted like she liked me. I was still naïve enough that I thought, “wow this bitch actually likes me”. I called her and asked her out to dinner. We met at the restaurant and ate. Afterwards I asked her if she wanted to go back to my apartment. She said she would but she had plans to meet up with some of her friends but asked me if I wanted to join.
We made out in my car for a while first (kissed and squeezed the tits) and then I followed her in my car as she drove to her destination. We drove for a while into a neighborhood I didn’t recognize and then pulled into a vacant parking lot. There were no other cars or people around at all. She got out of her car. I was sketched the fuck out. All night my little head was saying, “Yo you’re gonna fuck this hot bitch who’s 10 years younger than you.” All of the sudden my big head was like, “get the fuck out of here now! I am not playing with you. Get out now!”
I stayed in my car let her walk up to me and rolled the window down slightly. I said, “I have work early tomorrow and should go home”. She said, “No. Don’t say that.” I said, “I’ll call you” and drove away. After that she texted me several times and I ignored her.
I look back upon that night and still wonder, was there a dude with a gun waiting for me to get out of the car? Or could I have fucked that bitch? She was really hot.
Anyway, since then, 10 year now, I’ve had a strict no OTC policy. But now my ATF who really does stand out as an amazing service provider (I’m not at all even wanting it to result in anything more) wants to do otc and the club she used to provide me with excellent service in now prohibits such service.
I’m married and I don’t fuck around. I have limited time and I’m not trying to get robbed or contract an STD. But some part of me really wants to do it.
My question is, what advice do you have to mitigate OTC risk. To be clear, I’m not asking, “how do you score OTC?” I’m asking, in light of the fact that most strippers are dirty whores who cannot be trusted, is there a way to meet up OTC, get my shit off and not be afraid of being betrayed in one way or another?
Thanks very much in advance.
We made out in my car for a while first (kissed and squeezed the tits) and then I followed her in my car as she drove to her destination. We drove for a while into a neighborhood I didn’t recognize and then pulled into a vacant parking lot. There were no other cars or people around at all. She got out of her car. I was sketched the fuck out. All night my little head was saying, “Yo you’re gonna fuck this hot bitch who’s 10 years younger than you.” All of the sudden my big head was like, “get the fuck out of here now! I am not playing with you. Get out now!”
I stayed in my car let her walk up to me and rolled the window down slightly. I said, “I have work early tomorrow and should go home”. She said, “No. Don’t say that.” I said, “I’ll call you” and drove away. After that she texted me several times and I ignored her.
I look back upon that night and still wonder, was there a dude with a gun waiting for me to get out of the car? Or could I have fucked that bitch? She was really hot.
Anyway, since then, 10 year now, I’ve had a strict no OTC policy. But now my ATF who really does stand out as an amazing service provider (I’m not at all even wanting it to result in anything more) wants to do otc and the club she used to provide me with excellent service in now prohibits such service.
I’m married and I don’t fuck around. I have limited time and I’m not trying to get robbed or contract an STD. But some part of me really wants to do it.
My question is, what advice do you have to mitigate OTC risk. To be clear, I’m not asking, “how do you score OTC?” I’m asking, in light of the fact that most strippers are dirty whores who cannot be trusted, is there a way to meet up OTC, get my shit off and not be afraid of being betrayed in one way or another?
Thanks very much in advance.
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And some of them are clean whores; not dirty whores. And many aren't whores at all.
1. Choose a girl that you know and are comfortable with itc. You want a dancer that you trust in so far as any stripper can be trusted. See her itc a few times first.
2. Choose a dancer who occasionally escorts, not an escort who occasionally strips.
3. Go to a nice (or at least decent) hotel of your choosing. Don't go to her place, at least not until you've done this a few times.
4. Don't visit any drug dealers, boyfriends, vacant lots, etc. just dinner and hotel.
5. Until you get to know her well, drive in two separate cars. That way she has no excuse to ask you to stop anywhere other than the hotel. This is what saved you the last time. And I never ride in any strippers car except the DS.
6. I would generally be very hesitant to do anything that involves her friends for at least a while.
7. Don't be paranoid. But if you are genuinely uncomfortable for your safety, get out immediately like you did last time.
I’m not an experienced OTCer so others may have better advice – but:
1) get a burn-app on your ph so you don’t have to give her your real #; especially since you are a married dude
2) pick the hotel and have her meet you there instead of her waiting for you at the room or going to her place
3) STDs are a part of life these days; so wear a condom (but it’s not as if dealing w/ strippers there is a humongous risk; but there is a risk which can be pretty-much completely mitigated by wearing a condom)
In reality dancers are the ones that have to fear custies more than the other way around – and you’ve already known her for a bit – so it should not be an issue – just make sure to specify what you want and for how much to avoid any issues over $$$.
1. If you're married, never do OTC where you live, unless you live in a really large city.
2. Never ever take anyone to where you live or let anyone know where you live. Don't even mention the city, pick a random town near yours. If you're single or divorced this could be a different situation, but you're not.
3. With all the technology these days, it's easy to get an alternate phone number. If you give your real one, strippers will txt or call at crazy times and you don't want to have to guard your phone at all times.
4. Never let a stripper see the car you drive. I am always traveling so they only see my rental car.
5. I personally would never go to a strippers place unless I had known her for a good while and met several times with her beforehand, but others here do it on a regular basis.
6. Never pay her in the club, to then meet you after her shift - this is a classic con and most of the time the stripper will not show up.
7. Make sure you negotiate how much money (if any) is expected when she meets you before the actual meeting.
Now I travel a lot for work, so I only bring strippers to my hotel room. I've had them ride with me sometimes or they just meet me at my hotel room. In most cases they meet me in the daytime, but there are times when they will come after their shift at the club and that can be very late at night.
Usually they will txt you when they arrive in the parking lot, and if you're in a hotel where you can see the parking lot from your room, do so, so you can see if she's alone. If not make sure you watch closely out or your room peephole to see if she's by herself walking down the hallway. I have heard about guys getting jumped when answering their hotel room doors, but these dumbasses usually were getting girls off of backpage, which is a huge risk to begin with. You can also meet her in the lobby of the hotel. You're not going to get jumped there.
Just to let you know not all strippers are dirty whores and not all of them do OTC either. In most of my experiences I have met a stripper who I befriend and they choose to meet me outside the club because they feel safe with me and it's an easy way for them to earn some extra money. Some of them truly do enjoy sex and if you treat them right and don't accuse them of being a dirty whore they will gladly do OTC with you with no issues at all. I have been doing this for over a decade and aside from 3 no shows in over 10 years, the only issue I've ever had was when they show up late.
If this is the case why are you considering otc? if you are so worried about it, I would think you would just stick to your no otc policy.
But the above advice given is spot on if you're going to do it.
One more idea -- first time with a new girl, I intentionally give my hotel room number incorrectly in such a way so as to require her to walk past your room first (example -- if I am in room 234 I might say 243). Then I watch by the peephole, after she passes my room unescorted by any thugs (but before she gets to the phony room), I will open the door and say hi and call her back. She will assume she got the room number wrong and you will be sure not to get jumped.
Paranoid much? Sure! Whatcha going to do --call a cop???
And ignore those who say don't do this married. Complete bullshit. Wear a condom to fuck but cum in her mouth bearback. I'd did it dozens of times while married, and she has never suspected a thing.
One question, most of us, including me, appear to be assuming that you're meeting this girl OTC to actually fuck, as opposed to something else. Is that the case, and if so, have you fucked this girl ITC already? If you've already had sex with her ITC, you probably have less to worry about.
Be patient and use ITC playtime for OTC screening. Whenever I've done that, OTC has worked out perfectly. In fact, in two of those cases OTC was uncompensated.
Hotel rooms usually have that latch that allows one to partially open a door.
Men and women have been getting together for P4P forever – it’s nothing new – so I agree w/ others about being too paranoid above just taking basic precautions.
For stranger sex, the rules are more complicated. If you go to her hotel, you can be robbed, arrested, or worse. You NEVER take her home if your house is available. Most of my stranger sex has been in my car, or in a hotel room I booked. The only problem I ever had was a freebie where 20 min. into it she got a call and a "sick mother" compelled her to leave. Obviously a fake, but no cash changed hands.
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I'm also married and don't cheat.
I've had several opportunities and have been tempted often. I have fun fantasizing about it, but I doubt I will ever follow through with it. I don't know if it's out of fear or the guilt I would feel afterwards.
Doesn't really matter. I enjoy my ITC activities and rationalize it to myself that I'm not cheating.
In my case, I have almost never received OTC in my own area. My conquests have usually been one-off opportunities traveling around the country with relative strangers. Sometimes, they have been straight up escorts. In each case, I have used a higher level of caution for the concerns given previously.
The only reason I am paranoid about driving a dancer concerns getting stopped by police for some stupid traffic issue when she might be holding drugs or something. If she drops them in your car and denies that they are hers, you take the rap. Is this likely to happen -- probably not. Is it possible -- sure.
If your conquest is a regular club, regular dancer, relax and enjoy. The likelihood of her wanting a safe, routine income stream OTC increases exponentially in your case.
Now there are exceptions to every rule, so do trust your gut if you see or hear something that you don't like. In a handful of instances I have backed out of OTC when girls have started acting strange or making requests for special stops on the way to my hotel. But usually things go fairly smoothly as most of my partners seem to be as motivated as me to handle everything as efficiently as possible.
Good luck!
Masculinst100 - I understand your situation at the time of your encounter - and it was very different than your current life. However, these are useful tips for others who might be married and cheating otc while traveling on business. They aren't pertinent for you - but still valid suggestions.
I can still remember the feel of stupidity - after I met a girl (not a whore - but an online hookup) and we kissed in the hotel elevator - and the feeling of wtf am I doing when I stepped into her hotel room without knowing who might be waiting in there. It was stupid - but I didn't care - as all I was thinking was pussy. It was fine - but it's a risk - and it increases significantly with an unknown stripper in a club near the airport and other unknowns.
I am no expert, having never sought OTC, it it seems to me that the only safe way would be to develop a relationship and then go after OTC.
Never at my place. Hotel with an in-room safe. NOTHING of value is out in plan site. If it won't fit in the safe, its locked in the car. Place that I've used recently has an underground self-parking lot that requires a key to get in. I'll meet them at the gate and been able to check out the car before letting them in the building. Been a pretty good set up for me.