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Not trying to get robbed in OTC

Sunday, February 14, 2016 8:44 PM
When I was new to SCs 10 years ago, I was 30 years old and an attractive 19 year old started chatting me up at the club. She gave me her number and acted like she liked me. I was still naïve enough that I thought, “wow this bitch actually likes me”. I called her and asked her out to dinner. We met at the restaurant and ate. Afterwards I asked her if she wanted to go back to my apartment. She said she would but she had plans to meet up with some of her friends but asked me if I wanted to join. We made out in my car for a while first (kissed and squeezed the tits) and then I followed her in my car as she drove to her destination. We drove for a while into a neighborhood I didn’t recognize and then pulled into a vacant parking lot. There were no other cars or people around at all. She got out of her car. I was sketched the fuck out. All night my little head was saying, “Yo you’re gonna fuck this hot bitch who’s 10 years younger than you.” All of the sudden my big head was like, “get the fuck out of here now! I am not playing with you. Get out now!” I stayed in my car let her walk up to me and rolled the window down slightly. I said, “I have work early tomorrow and should go home”. She said, “No. Don’t say that.” I said, “I’ll call you” and drove away. After that she texted me several times and I ignored her. I look back upon that night and still wonder, was there a dude with a gun waiting for me to get out of the car? Or could I have fucked that bitch? She was really hot. Anyway, since then, 10 year now, I’ve had a strict no OTC policy. But now my ATF who really does stand out as an amazing service provider (I’m not at all even wanting it to result in anything more) wants to do otc and the club she used to provide me with excellent service in now prohibits such service. I’m married and I don’t fuck around. I have limited time and I’m not trying to get robbed or contract an STD. But some part of me really wants to do it. My question is, what advice do you have to mitigate OTC risk. To be clear, I’m not asking, “how do you score OTC?” I’m asking, in light of the fact that most strippers are dirty whores who cannot be trusted, is there a way to meet up OTC, get my shit off and not be afraid of being betrayed in one way or another? Thanks very much in advance.

31 comments

  • gawker
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    8 years ago
    If you control the place to meet ( you pick the hotel and you reserve & pay for the room) then her ability to set you up is limited. Secondly, get to know her. Trust is a tough word in this setting, but at a minimum you should have a feeling that she's not there to assault or rob you.. Third, if you don't have some sort of handle on who she's been fucking, use a condom. And some of them are clean whores; not dirty whores. And many aren't whores at all.
  • JohnSmith69
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    8 years ago
    It's not hard. I've done it a few hundred times with roughly a dozen dancers and never had the slightest problem. You may hear from some who have an elaborate set of rules and procedures to avoid trouble. But all you really need to do is: 1. Choose a girl that you know and are comfortable with itc. You want a dancer that you trust in so far as any stripper can be trusted. See her itc a few times first. 2. Choose a dancer who occasionally escorts, not an escort who occasionally strips. 3. Go to a nice (or at least decent) hotel of your choosing. Don't go to her place, at least not until you've done this a few times. 4. Don't visit any drug dealers, boyfriends, vacant lots, etc. just dinner and hotel. 5. Until you get to know her well, drive in two separate cars. That way she has no excuse to ask you to stop anywhere other than the hotel. This is what saved you the last time. And I never ride in any strippers car except the DS. 6. I would generally be very hesitant to do anything that involves her friends for at least a while. 7. Don't be paranoid. But if you are genuinely uncomfortable for your safety, get out immediately like you did last time.
  • Papi_Chulo
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    8 years ago
    AFAIK dudes meet with dancers OTC all the time; is there zero risk – of course not – neither is driving to work everyday. I’m not an experienced OTCer so others may have better advice – but: 1) get a burn-app on your ph so you don’t have to give her your real #; especially since you are a married dude 2) pick the hotel and have her meet you there instead of her waiting for you at the room or going to her place 3) STDs are a part of life these days; so wear a condom (but it’s not as if dealing w/ strippers there is a humongous risk; but there is a risk which can be pretty-much completely mitigated by wearing a condom) In reality dancers are the ones that have to fear custies more than the other way around – and you’ve already known her for a bit – so it should not be an issue – just make sure to specify what you want and for how much to avoid any issues over $$$.
  • shailynn
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    8 years ago
    I am in a similar boat as you, and although some others here have much more experience at this than I do, I will give you my guidelines. I have heard horror stories from other guys getting robbed (on other now defunct message boards from years ago) but most of those guys were stupid and not playing it safe. 1. If you're married, never do OTC where you live, unless you live in a really large city. 2. Never ever take anyone to where you live or let anyone know where you live. Don't even mention the city, pick a random town near yours. If you're single or divorced this could be a different situation, but you're not. 3. With all the technology these days, it's easy to get an alternate phone number. If you give your real one, strippers will txt or call at crazy times and you don't want to have to guard your phone at all times. 4. Never let a stripper see the car you drive. I am always traveling so they only see my rental car. 5. I personally would never go to a strippers place unless I had known her for a good while and met several times with her beforehand, but others here do it on a regular basis. 6. Never pay her in the club, to then meet you after her shift - this is a classic con and most of the time the stripper will not show up. 7. Make sure you negotiate how much money (if any) is expected when she meets you before the actual meeting. Now I travel a lot for work, so I only bring strippers to my hotel room. I've had them ride with me sometimes or they just meet me at my hotel room. In most cases they meet me in the daytime, but there are times when they will come after their shift at the club and that can be very late at night. Usually they will txt you when they arrive in the parking lot, and if you're in a hotel where you can see the parking lot from your room, do so, so you can see if she's alone. If not make sure you watch closely out or your room peephole to see if she's by herself walking down the hallway. I have heard about guys getting jumped when answering their hotel room doors, but these dumbasses usually were getting girls off of backpage, which is a huge risk to begin with. You can also meet her in the lobby of the hotel. You're not going to get jumped there. Just to let you know not all strippers are dirty whores and not all of them do OTC either. In most of my experiences I have met a stripper who I befriend and they choose to meet me outside the club because they feel safe with me and it's an easy way for them to earn some extra money. Some of them truly do enjoy sex and if you treat them right and don't accuse them of being a dirty whore they will gladly do OTC with you with no issues at all. I have been doing this for over a decade and aside from 3 no shows in over 10 years, the only issue I've ever had was when they show up late.
  • Papi_Chulo
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    8 years ago
    Yeah; strippers are notorious flakes – so don’t get bent out of shape or think the worst when she says yes and doesn’t show-up; or shows up 2 hours late – this is actually fairly normal stripper behavior.
  • Papi_Chulo
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    8 years ago
    OTC threads come-up a lot – someone with decent OTC experience should write an article and others can chime-in w/ comments and then PLs can directed to the article when the question comes up.
  • rh48hr
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    8 years ago
    OP- I’m married and I don’t fuck around If this is the case why are you considering otc? if you are so worried about it, I would think you would just stick to your no otc policy. But the above advice given is spot on if you're going to do it.
  • pensionking
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    8 years ago
    All of the above is great (never let her in your car, never at your home, etc.) One more idea -- first time with a new girl, I intentionally give my hotel room number incorrectly in such a way so as to require her to walk past your room first (example -- if I am in room 234 I might say 243). Then I watch by the peephole, after she passes my room unescorted by any thugs (but before she gets to the phony room), I will open the door and say hi and call her back. She will assume she got the room number wrong and you will be sure not to get jumped. Paranoid much? Sure! Whatcha going to do --call a cop???
  • JohnSmith69
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    8 years ago
    This stuff is too paranoid. Giving her the wrong room number? Never let her see your car? If you are that fearful why do it? It's really not hard. Choose the girl carefully, follow the basics, and enjoy your incredible good fortune. It's a great life. And ignore those who say don't do this married. Complete bullshit. Wear a condom to fuck but cum in her mouth bearback. I'd did it dozens of times while married, and she has never suspected a thing.
  • rockie
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    8 years ago
    Ahhhh JS69! Technically, aren't you still married (unless I missed the update), but I do understand what you were sayin'. I'm just sayin'!
  • ButterMan
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    8 years ago
    Yea I agree don't be so pariniod. That doesn't mean you don't have to be careful and smart but I do it on a regular basis and have for years and I've never had a problem. The most important thing is choosing the right girl don't choose some skank from a dive or some chick that you think that is on drugs. Most of my OTC girls are suburban girls some are college students. But like everyone said you choose the location tell her where to meet you if you want to meet at a hotel tell her that and you choose and pay for the room and the important ithing is make sure she drives her own self there not gets a ride from some bf / pimp.
  • georgmicrodong
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    8 years ago
    I'm mostly with JS69 on this one. A little paranoia is a good thing, but unless you've had no interaction with a girl in the club prior to doing OTC, some of the lengths described in some of these responses are probably going a little further than necessary. One question, most of us, including me, appear to be assuming that you're meeting this girl OTC to actually fuck, as opposed to something else. Is that the case, and if so, have you fucked this girl ITC already? If you've already had sex with her ITC, you probably have less to worry about.
  • HungryGiraffe
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    8 years ago
    I've had some awesome OTC experiences and some disasters that made me much more cautious in playing the OTC game. The disasters were all the result of trying to bed someone I had just met in the club, without any type of intimate dance or connection. Big mistakes. No personal safety issues, but the experiences were very unsatisfying. Be patient and use ITC playtime for OTC screening. Whenever I've done that, OTC has worked out perfectly. In fact, in two of those cases OTC was uncompensated.
  • Papi_Chulo
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    8 years ago
    I don’t think giving the wrong room # on purpose is a good idea – best to keep things on the down-low as much as possible and having her have to interact with someone else she doesn’t know in another room is just complicating things where it’s almost always best to K.I.S.S. (not to mention disturbing the person in the other room by having a stranger knock on their door). Hotel rooms usually have that latch that allows one to partially open a door. Men and women have been getting together for P4P forever – it’s nothing new – so I agree w/ others about being too paranoid above just taking basic precautions.
  • Papi_Chulo
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    8 years ago
    If jackslash was commenting on this thread he’d tell you just one thing – “fuck her in the pussy”
  • ButterMan
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    8 years ago
    Yea you had one bad experience, these things usually don't go that way. most of my girls over the years come to my house or hotel and we both get in my car and drive to a resturaunt beforehand. So stay away from backpage and pick wisely your stripper.
  • Estafador
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    8 years ago
    Your in quite a pickle. You want OTC, but you're married. Going to the house is OUT the question. Best thing I can say is, tell her you guys are going to a hotel (or motel, whichever you find is better for your pursuit), but don't say which. Watch her every movement with the phone and if you want to go the extra mile, HOLD HER PHONE or tell her to keep the phone off. If your really paranoid, you don't want her to tell her people where you guys are going. Make sure only YOU have the keys to the room and don't fall asleep before her. Even more paranoid, just don't sleep there and use it for sex and hit the bricks. Of course this requires explaining why you are home so late to your wife. You don't have friends you can use for a quick romp sess?
  • rockstar666
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    8 years ago
    If the dancer is a regular at the club, there's a far lower chance of violent crime. Because you know where to find her. I've never had the slightest fear during OTC because it wasn't with a dancer I just met. For stranger sex, the rules are more complicated. If you go to her hotel, you can be robbed, arrested, or worse. You NEVER take her home if your house is available. Most of my stranger sex has been in my car, or in a hotel room I booked. The only problem I ever had was a freebie where 20 min. into it she got a call and a "sick mother" compelled her to leave. Obviously a fake, but no cash changed hands.
  • flagooner
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    8 years ago
    rh48hr+1 I'm also married and don't cheat. I've had several opportunities and have been tempted often. I have fun fantasizing about it, but I doubt I will ever follow through with it. I don't know if it's out of fear or the guilt I would feel afterwards. Doesn't really matter. I enjoy my ITC activities and rationalize it to myself that I'm not cheating.
  • pensionking
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    8 years ago
    I cannot argue with the posts discouraging the need for so much paranoia in the case of an OTC with a dancer that you might have enjoyed some ITC extras or with whom you have spent time grooming and cultivating a "relationship" -- probably not necessary. In my case, I have almost never received OTC in my own area. My conquests have usually been one-off opportunities traveling around the country with relative strangers. Sometimes, they have been straight up escorts. In each case, I have used a higher level of caution for the concerns given previously. The only reason I am paranoid about driving a dancer concerns getting stopped by police for some stupid traffic issue when she might be holding drugs or something. If she drops them in your car and denies that they are hers, you take the rap. Is this likely to happen -- probably not. Is it possible -- sure. If your conquest is a regular club, regular dancer, relax and enjoy. The likelihood of her wanting a safe, routine income stream OTC increases exponentially in your case.
  • MASCULINIST100
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    8 years ago
    Thanks guys for the comments. I didn’t mean to insult anyone with the dirty whore comment. I like strippers. Otherwise I wouldn’t be on this site. I don’t have a problem with whores either. I just think it’s a fine distinction between a stripper and a whore. They’re both providing sexual services for money. It’s really just a matter of degrees. The dirty adjective probably wasn’t necessary.
  • JohnSmith69
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    8 years ago
    Esta has some great suggestions. In addition to those points, I highly recommend that you bring some 2x4s and plywood to cover up all the windows, that you post an armed sentry outside the door, and that you pay a private investigator to run a complete background check on the stripper beforehand. Also dispose of the condom in your pants pocket. You wouldn't want her putting the cum in her pussy to get pregnant and seek child support.
  • GoVikings
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    8 years ago
    lololololol at John Smith's last post
  • rickdugan
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    8 years ago
    Everything that gawker said. Control the meeting space and wrap it up and you should be fine. While you can never fully eliminate risk in any endeavor, if you do these things there is an extremely low likelihood of any type of problem. I've lost count of how many girls I've taken out of clubs in the last decade and I have never had a serious issue. Most of these girls don't need any more problems any more than you do. If you want a little added comfort, then I suppose you could also get to know the girl for a while ITC first, though I do a lto of first meet, same night OTC and it usually works out fine. Now there are exceptions to every rule, so do trust your gut if you see or hear something that you don't like. In a handful of instances I have backed out of OTC when girls have started acting strange or making requests for special stops on the way to my hotel. But usually things go fairly smoothly as most of my partners seem to be as motivated as me to handle everything as efficiently as possible. Good luck!
  • MASCULINIST100
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    8 years ago
    @ desertscrub. I wasn’t married at the time. Apparently reading retention isn’t your strong point. Some people might pick up on clues like “10 years ago”. Another way to say it would be, “fuck you”.
  • Cashman1234
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    8 years ago
    There are some great tips in this discussion. I think it depends on the risk you perceive when you get into it with a stripper. If you are on a business trip and you don't have experience with the local clubs and dancers - then there are several precautions that make great sense. Masculinst100 - I understand your situation at the time of your encounter - and it was very different than your current life. However, these are useful tips for others who might be married and cheating otc while traveling on business. They aren't pertinent for you - but still valid suggestions. I can still remember the feel of stupidity - after I met a girl (not a whore - but an online hookup) and we kissed in the hotel elevator - and the feeling of wtf am I doing when I stepped into her hotel room without knowing who might be waiting in there. It was stupid - but I didn't care - as all I was thinking was pussy. It was fine - but it's a risk - and it increases significantly with an unknown stripper in a club near the airport and other unknowns.
  • Estafador
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    8 years ago
    My OTHER piece of advice even if you take necessary precautions; get a gun. That's right I'm pro-gun baby. These bad guys keeps getting them illegally anyway, why can't you have one LEGALLY. Put a cap in a pimp's ass if s/he thinks s/he's going to rob you. Funny story I DID see a female pimp. Of course she was hotter than her hoe because she was clean but DAMN that was the funniest thing I have seen in the seedy world. Driving around in her black Infinit QX80
  • Estafador
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    8 years ago
    @JS69 fucking laugh riot man. If the bitch asks, what's the plywood for, tell her its not a coffin. That'll make her think twice about double crossing you ^_^
  • ATACdawg
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    8 years ago
    It strikes me that a lot of the "precautions" proposed above (like take her cell phone or make sure it's off) would make a girl question, or maybe be sure, that you are a predatory axe murderer. How many of you would accept conditions like those from them? I am no expert, having never sought OTC, it it seems to me that the only safe way would be to develop a relationship and then go after OTC.
  • flagooner
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    8 years ago
    Keep in mind also that the more you take control of the environment, the more leery she may get. I would think you would both need to build at least some level of trust before partaking.
  • the mighty quinn
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    8 years ago
    I don't OTC right off the bat with strippers. Just seems too risky to me. I'd rather know them a little before than. Only reason to get digits is to know she'll be working when you plan to visit the club. Never at my place. Hotel with an in-room safe. NOTHING of value is out in plan site. If it won't fit in the safe, its locked in the car. Place that I've used recently has an underground self-parking lot that requires a key to get in. I'll meet them at the gate and been able to check out the car before letting them in the building. Been a pretty good set up for me.
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