Civilian women
JohnSmith69
layin low but staying high
I mean that as a serious question. Ok I get three purposes although none really applies much to me. First, if you want long term female companionship, then I understand going that route (assuming of course that you decide against a blow up doll). Second, if free sex is critically important to you, then I get it (again, assuming no doll). Lastly, if you don't have a DS, then you might choose a civilian as your best bet for less risky uncovered sex. And I do dearly love to be warm and snugly without a coat on.
But stripper sex is much better than civilian sex even if you wear a condom inside the love tunnel. The girls are hotter and often much more creative and slutty. And you can have the young ones no matter how old you are. I will never get used to that. And after you play with them a few hours you can send them on their way and you don't see them until you want sex again. OK I admit you'll get a bunch of texts begging for $ the next am, but you won't have to wake up next to her when you can't fuck her at will.
I have fucked gorgeous young 18-23 year olds so much in the past year that I'm not even sure that I could get it up for some women my age. Not sayin that I couldn't get it up cause my little head is a real trooper, but I think with some of the fatter ones it's an open question that I don't really want to answer.
So I guess I'm just wondering if I'm missing something by not dating civilian women. I suppose my wife thinks it's cause no woman could ever equal her, but it's really because I've never been so incredibly sexually fulfilled in my life since we separated. Not even close. I've thought about dating civilian women. I even wrote a dating profile. It sounds just like like what makes me attractive to strippers: "Respectful, generous guy with money lookin for a decent looking woman as young as possible (and certainly not my own age) to fuck me. That's right ladies, I said with money so line the fuck up." But the profile that I wrote sounds a lot better than that paraphrase cause this is John Smith that were talking about here, and I know how to be subtle. But I never posted it. Why would I?
So am I missing something?
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The fact is that even most young women do meet my standards. As Seinfeld said, most people are undatable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-a64OwO…
Strippers give me what I want in terms of looks, sex and companionship..
My problems with this are two fold. First, finding a women who I am intellectually, financially, and sexually compatible with has proven to be exceedingly difficult. It is very rare for me to find a woman who meets my intellectual and financial expectations... and in the rare instances when I have stumbled onto a promising candidate, they are always "off the market." Second, even if I did manage to find a woman who checked all the boxes and was available... I'd have to be out of my mind to gamble half of my net worth to marry her.
"renting" is a good substitute, but that will never (truly) lead to two people who care about each other. Some of these providers are good at faking feeling, but it's still a lie.
This clip from Trainwreck explains the problem with that stipulation perfectly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNfUhSnJ…
Once you divorce all assets prior to marriage can legally be separated from inclusion to assets entitled to the divorcing spouse. Also, generally all assets acquired during marriage can be divided equally, unless you want out so badly and quickly that you're tired of lawyers negotiating and u forfeit rights to those assets to dissolve your marriage as quickly as possible. Just my simple digression as this "half my net worth" fear holds no weight in court.
/don't get me wrong. Fucking strippers is great fun. And handy if you can't handle civies or don't have a desirable one handy at the moment.
But I wasn't really comparing marriage to fucking strippers. I was just talking about "dating" strippers vs dating civilians. If you throw marriage into the mix, civilian women are even harder to justify.
I'm sure I'll try civilians at some point but I have serious doubts whether it'll be worth it. At the end of the day, I think they're all just after my $ so why not stick to the ones who give me the most value for my investment?
If I had the cash, I'd do what JS does, but I also favor a diverse portfolio.
The boundaries are much clearer with strippers and other sex workers, so there's less ambiguity about what each party expects. Generally, it begins and ends with sex, without the need for deep commitment or emotional attachment.
Why would I do this? He's a dog, I'm a cat. Enough said.
If you are going to state the reason for not getting married because "half of your net worth" is at risk, you better come up with some better reasons that that. Of course I simplified it, this is TUSCL discussion, not Ivy League law school. However if I'm in a community property/no fault state(like Arizona), and I have $1 million dollars net worth before I get married and earned $1 million after marriage, the negotiations for the spouse who is divorcing me starts at $500k. If she wants more then she needs to have the lawyers start eating away at the rest, and pretty soon there won't be anything left to squabble about and I can easily live off the $1 million I had before we were married, unless of course I mistakenly pissed away the $1 million I earned during g my marriage and all I have left was my pre-married net worth of $1 million.
Am I missing something here? If so please enlighten my knowledge.
If I had the finances, I'd keep a rotation of dancers. If I had little regard for my health, I'd hit the stroll regularly. Since neither of those is the case, I just get in where I can and fill the rest of my time watching sports and beautiful news women.
Further it's not fair to assume that the $1 million a guy enters marriage with won't be subject to division. Courts strive to find a way to give women more money in divorce. so, for example, if that $1 million is ever commingled in any way with marital funds then the guy has a problem. For example, put the woman's name on the account holding the money, and that's all it takes. This happens a lot because guys arent planning for divorce during most of their marriage. I wasn't, and I should have known better.
Further, you don't consider alimony or child support. Even if the guy keeps the $1 million, the existence of that $ can lead to higher support payments.
The only way to avoid a big financial risk going into marriage is to marry a woman who is much richer than you are. Otherwise the guy will loose a huge portion of his money in the divorce.
Yes it might be less than 50% but it'll hurt a lot unless she's richer than you. And it could be 50% or more.
Talking about marriagr, you made a huge mistake, dude. I'm still enjoying my life that no bitch will overpower my will to do what I want.
Fuck these bitches.
Well, some smaller cities don't have any strip clubs.
JS69, at his best!
SJG
Best of Deep Purple
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1. I know when you met your Dream Stripper, she was 19yo. But as a Dream Stripper, it is just like how her car doesn't need to be washed, as dirt doesn't stick to it. Dream Strippers don't age.
So say hypothetically that you had a 19yo daughter, would you want her to be a stripper? Having a Sugar Daddy? Doing FS ITC and OTC?
2. So suppose you had a son, 20 yo, and you saw that he was losing interest in all forms of civilian relationships, and was going to strippers? Okay with you?
3. Suppose you had a son 30yo, married, with children, and looking like he has got a promising high income career. But he was taking up with strippers, and spending lots of time and money on them. What would you say?
4. Would you JS69 want to have a long term relationship with a stripper?
SJG
God Deleusion, Richard Dawkins
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2. I wouldn't care but it's not a realistic hypothetical because he would have no $.
3. I would teach him my system.
4. I already do. You've read my DS stories, right?
spoiler alert. in this story older than time and lived by countless of PLs before, John has now moved to the next chapter of this well worn tale. he is trying to convince himself how happy he is, how he doesn’t need real human companionship, how he is a rock, an island. the next scene will find him sitting alone clad only in his socks and BVDs in a dank room lit only by the infomercials on late night TV as he eats cold chili straight out of the can…
meanwhile in a dank basement room lit only by the infomercials on late night TV in San Jose…..
stay tuned
So guys without money can't get much. And women are looked down on if they have lots of sex partners. So then there is this built in conflict of interests between women and men.
Do you think this is fair? Do you think it constructive, even the sort of relationship you have with your DS? Where do you think that relationship will go?
SJG
Do you think it constructive or fair to be dividing women into two categories?
SJG
her money stays hers
his money becomes "theirs" (as in shared)
his money becomes "theirs" (as in shared)"
It works like that for a lot of people. But in divorce court, his and hers, money and debt, are "theirs". This is the law.
SJG
So consider a hypothetical, even a SSWM ( Super Stud With Money ) needs to eat.
So say you drive into a new town and stop at a Denny's. Now sure, you're planning to go to the strip club. But sometimes the waitresses in such places are quite flirty, and lonely, and good looking. And some have written that women are programmed to go for outsides, because of the genetic diversity. So say you are getting along flirting with one. And you plan to be going thru that town regularly.
So if you tried, you could probably bed her that night, the next visit, or the next next visit. You'd still have the strip club as a back up.
So why not, why not a civilian woman. They just don't move as fast. But once you've put in the preliminary meeting, you can nail her.
Now maybe you do or don't want to make up excuses to give her money, or to get her to dress and make up as a stripper. That would be up to you. And maybe the relationship will or will not work.
But see my point, when available, why not a civilian?
Merry Christmas to You All!
SJG