Lying to Customers
Papi_Chulo
Miami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
The SW ladies share their thoughts – below are some excerpts:
“... I lie about still being in school, because customers see you in a better light if you're a student "trying to better yourself" than they do if you tell them you graduated and are "still doing this." ...”
“... And, there are a few times when I've been bored, and made up stories about past life drama or how I have kids (I don't), just because it amuses me. ...”
“... If a guy wants OTC and is still willing to do VIP or dances, I will act coy about it not giving an answer until after I made money. Guys blatantly looking for OTC are obnoxious and should pay for us to hear that tripe …”
“... I will tell them what they want to hear. I will always be single, be 27 years old, and have a day job or in school ...”
“... You're supposed to lie to them. I never told a customer anything true except my age ...”
“... Promising sex to score money upfront or time in VIP is something I have never done, not because I think it's wrong but because I'm scared of the possible negative consequences. Other than that I will lie all night long. I will give out my google voice number then block them and ignore them. I will lie about my real name, real job, real place where I live. Sometimes I do it to help me make money, customers don't want to hear about my boyfriend. Sometimes I do it for fun, it entertains me to spin yarns about my non existent dog and my years training animals for movies ...”
“... I lie so much sometimes I don't even realize til a few days later and then have a good laugh about it ...”
“... Screw this honesty stuff and hustle the hell out of them. At the end of the day, 99% of them just wanna get in your pants. You're a stripper, you're expected to lie and hustle - whether you're sweet about it or a hard bitch that strings them along. If they're straight out assholes, I say scam them/makes false promises. They're too dumb. They think can get with YOU. So they deserve all of it! ...”
“... A few weeks ago I had this convo in VIP:
him: will you come back to my hotel with me?
me: no sorry babe
him: WHY CANT YOU JUST LIE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE???
me: OK then, I'll come back with you
him: really?!!! **BIG BIG SMILE** ok let's have another hour then
at the end of the night he actually waited for me...COME ON MAN YOU ASKED ME TO LIE ...”
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The stripper is right who said that most PLs are so dumb that they fall for the scams and false promises. I did for a while. But these strategies only work to get them money one night to the detriment of their long term earnings. For example, if she gives her number and then blocks him ( which the DS does to guys all the time by the way) she has lost a potential long term customer in favor of just getting more $ from him in one night. It'd make more sense to build a relationship with the guy and keep him coming itc
The SS I've heard makes my head spin, but I know they are lying. If it makes for good conversation fine. Every visit to the SC makes it easier to ID and ignore. Glad I rarely run into a dancer that has the SW attitude.
Nice find, Papi.
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...Remember that she is trying to sell something and so are you. She is trying to sell the fantasy, t&a, etc., in the hopes of eliciting cash from you. You need to be seen as someone who can feed her with cash...
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Of course they lie. You know what though? So do I when i need to, *especially* when I'm traveling. I don't lie about my job because it sounds good as is, but I often lie about my intentions.
For starters, I always lead them to believe that I will be visiting town frequently, even when I won't be. In some places, one-off tourists aren't treated so well and are a frequent target of silly scams. This lie is designed to keep them from believing that I will be gone tomorrow never to return, both to avoid scams and to make them believe that other things may be possible (see below).
Under the right circumstances, I've lied about looking for a regular "friend" because I don't have one yet in [insert the city here] and I will be visiting regularly now [wink wink]. This had led to questions about when I will be coming back [which I also lie about], number exchanges, etc., and has also led to some interesting spur of the moment OTC gigs.
Even more strategically, I've lied, a handful of times, about traveling with "friends" and eventually needing another travel companion. This works well on certain types of girls, most often those who have not traveled much but really want to see something other than their normal surroundings. This has pushed things over the goal line a few times with girls who bought my first lie about visiting often, but still seemed on the fence about going OTC.
It's all part of the fun and games. If you set up good rules of behavior for yourself [not paying in advance, not getting sucked into crappy VIP areas, converting pity hustles to earnings opportunities, etc.) and do your research about the club(s) you are visiting, their lies should have little impact upon you.
Brilliant! It seems to have already worked for the lions so I don't see why it wouldn't work for strippers! ;)
YMMV applies to OTC prospects like any other. In some situations, it's not so hard to source as there are girls specifically seeking out business guys with hotel rooms for p4p, but in others it's a more serious decision for a girl to jump to a hotel room with a guy who she's never met before. The shit I do is intended to short circuit the multiple visit, get to know you phase that is customary with some of these girls.
As far as strippers go, I always go by this: "Don't ask questions that you don't want to know the answers to."
Follow that, and you'll be fine in a strip club.
Personally, I don't care. She is working and I am there for tease and tits. Lie to me all you want, I don't care.
I just need a hug.
A mouth hug.
Personally, I don't care. She is working and I am there for tease and tits. Lie to me all you want, I don't care.
I just need a hug.
A mouth hug."
Brilliant!
A. You will see her lips move.
Plus I suspect it gets boring to introduce yourself and tell true stories all the time! Even if you aren't being strategic to try to enhance the amount of money you make I could see it being fun to make up stories! If they're harmless that's brilliant! If the stories are a con, so what! Is the car salesman you bought your last car from 100% truthful?
And then there's the dumbass that asked a stripper to lie and then was surprised when she did! That doesn't even count as a lie! That counts as dumbassery in the first degree! ;)
I'd be interested to hear from some of the dancers that post here to get their perspective!
That said, promising OTC and never delivering is ROB territory.
You'd giggle to hear the comments I've heard over the years just by bringing my new "friends" through the hotel lobby. One said that she felt like the girl in Pretty Woman and another exclaimed "I bet they even clean the rooms very day, don't they?", among other gems. ;)
Now obviously I don't know how many said no who would have said yes if I was a known regular and/or if I visited again on another trip - plenty I'm sure. There are also some who made me wait until the second visit during the same week in town, usually due to fear of LE. Yet a few others would not agree to same night, but did agree to meet up at the hotel bar the next night and take it upstairs after.
I once went to a SC with two friends who don't SC much. One of them arranged post-shift OTC with his stripper, the other arranged post-shift OTC with the waitress (dummy!), both guys kept lap dancing & tipping their respective girls huge through the shift, both got denied with extreme prejudice at the end of the shift. They were such rubes that I barely felt bad for them.
Just assume everything they are saying is bullshit and hedge your bets.
Brilliant!
Don't worry, even with absolutely no other mention, even hint, of "The System," the troll posts will continue. So rest easy that your legacy will live forever with absolutely no effort on your part.
Otherwise I'm with ihearvoices. At best, she might sell me on a pity dance and I usually don't even waste money on those anymore. As far as I'm concerned, number ratings aside, I either want her or I don't. Nothing a bitch says that I don't want is going to change my mind.
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That is funny