Advice

It's pretty clear she's not going to meet you OTC. It sounds like she is just trying to keep that option open to keep you as a customer. So she is just an ITC dancer for you. Either live with that, or go find some more girls to play with. Life is too short to let it drag out like this.

Preach it JS69.....

You can take a stripper to water but you can't make her drink it – i.e. either she does or she doesn't – no amount of pressure on your part will probably change that.

You may be flirting w/ RIL territory – be careful; it can be a dangerous condition.

As ATAC mentioned; you take it for what it is or move on – maybe you should play the field and see if another dancer can meet your needs and perhaps break the spell this harlot has on you LOL.

If what you want is sex – then perhaps a well-reviewed escort (TER) can help you get over the probable severe case of blue-balls you may be experiencing and then you may have a clear mind and see things differentlhy w.r.t this chick.

Or you can join us in Detroit and get taken care off (https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…)

“... As ATAC mentioned ...”

Meant - “as JS69 mentioned”

Dude, she just sees you as an ATM at her beck and call. It's time to change the PINs and move on.

w/e you do – you need to deal w/ this one way or the other – often times a dancer will string along a RIL and at the end of the day no OTC and an empty bank account - do not allow yourself to be stringed along.

You haven't given us enough information to be sure, but no matter what you do with this girl I also get the distinct impression that you need more strippers in your life. There is absolutely no reason to settle for just one dancer, and doing so leaves you with no options and no leverage when there's no competition. I, for example, see the same stripper every week, and she is more incredible sexually than I ever could've imagined Even with that relationship, I still play with other girls and have other stripper relationships as a backup. Monogamy has no place in the strip club.

Agree with JS69 and the masses - Move on from this one and when you go into the club (make sure to go on a night she's working), get dances with other girls (none with her) and make sure she knows you're enjoying yourself. She'll either come around or ignore you. Either way you'll know where you stand and can move on.

Odds are this girl has a dozen or more guys she texts, and "not making any money" is pure SS.

Two weeks is nothing when it comes to personal finance. This girl is clearly reluctant. You either need a true financial emergency for her, or possibly to grossly overpay.

Or, just move on. You don't go to a grocery store to buy a car. Some girls never do OTC

Or...She does OTC, but she's not going to do it with you. Hard for the ego to take I know, but it's a girls choice. The only way for you to have the slightest shot is to be having fun with other women. Then her ego will be slightly bruised which could leave her vulnerable to your advances. But that's not a guarantee either, she really really might just not like you sexually

Tell her that you have an 11” penis.

Good advice. Play with the other girls at her club. Definitely. And don't be a pussy. Just play with the others for a while. Don't immediately give in.

^^^ this guy is a big luv struck PL. He's gonna cave in 5 minutes of this stripper giving him attention

Drop that zero and get with a hero (or even better, get w/ a ho)

Papi.....doesn't too big a dick turn some off because it will hurt them...LOL. what does "w.r.t." stand for?

lol - with so many strippers out there willing to do OTC why are you chasing this one and pressuring her to do shit that she obviously isn't going for....and if she did eventually break down and agree (very doubtful) it sounds like she won't exactly be giving it her all. Move on and find someone willing.

What Papi said.

If you want to find a woman you are special to, you're looking in the wrong place. Go on a regular dating site like Plenty Of Fish or something. Sex workers basically provide an enhanced form of masturbation, there is pretty much the same level of real connection with another person. Many strippers can be someone to chew the fat with like a good bartender.

If I understand your situation correctly, she has agreed to meet you OTC and then not come through with it, on multiple occasions? Is that correct?

If so, I would go to her club and get multiple dances from the other girls but not her. When she asks what is going on, you can truthfully tell her you are looking for what you want since she has obviously decided she cannot provide it. Don't be a RIL take control of the situation. Be nice about it and let her know exactly why you are shopping for a new girl.

Kick this one to the curb, she is trying to string you along and only wants to see you ITC not OTC.

Papi: I'm honored to have been mistaken for JD69 - it must be his sparkling prose!

Now if you could just get me hooked up with his DS, that would me AWESOME.... ;-D

What is RIL?

Regular-In-Love. It's in the glossary at the bottom of this page, along with most of the other acronyms that we throw around.

She doesn't love you. She doesn't LIKE you. She will have a date with you, with no sex, if you pay her. She doesn't want to fuck you, and she won't. She might have guys she fucks for $$$ but you won't be one of them.

It's a hard lesson; we've all been there.

Papi - your first comment might have been, " You can lead a horse to water, but you can't lead a horticulture."

I applaud you standing your ground, but bludgeoning a resistant girl is not going to work. If she's struggling to wrap her arms around it despite your current spending, then landing her is not a short game. I've been in your shoes multiple times and I've always found that a little finesse goes a long way in these situations. Letting them feel like they are the ones making the decision matters in my experience.

I usually let a girl like this know that I would like keep seeing her, but that any favorite that I visit and spend good money on consistently is one that I see ITC and OTC. I even have a sad smile and an apologetic look that I use when I say something like this - and of course it is something that I never handle over text. I go on to let her know that I understand that it's not in her comfort zone, but that I hope she'll let me know if that changes. And then I let it percolate, go back to the club in a few weeks, check in on her and spend a little money on her but not too much, rinse, repeat...

Now I don't go through this effort for just any ol' gal, but 3 of my best all time favorites came around this way. But again, this is not a short game. If she has held out this long, then clearly she is not comfortable with the notion yet and direct pressure is probably not going to work.

"... what does "w.r.t." stand for ..."

w.r.t. = with respect to

I'd take my money to someone else or accept it.

Some strippers apparently won't fuck just anybody for money... Maybe true but there are plenty who will... If that's all you want.