It's rare I run into dancers who just start, but recently I asked for a dance from one I hadn't seen in the club before. Turns out that she had just started that week and I got to be her first female customer. Which made me curious to hear what other firsts have dancers claimed you were?
I run into new girls all the time. Obviously enough, I never totally believe them when they tell me that I was their first whatever, but at least two brand-spanking-new girls in the past few months have told me that I was their first VIP dance
"I run into new girls all the time. Obviously enough, I never totally believe them when they tell me that I was their first whatever, but at least two brand-spanking-new girls in the past few months have told me that I was their first VIP dance"
Maybe you're just extremely lucky Subraman! That would be brilliant!
Whenever I hear "I've never danced for a couple before" I immediately hang my head a little bit, sigh to myself and think "oh crap". We've heard it many times.
Over the years I have had a lot of first timers and like most of the comments they sucked. The better ones have been with ones that had a veteran showing them the ropes.
Only one ever went on to become a favorite. She too was being taught by another dancer but this time the other dancer was one of my favorites and she taught her what I like.
While I definitely agree that new dancers won't exactly have the hottest most-refined dance technique, I also find that occasionally, they come in with a very open mind and party girl attitude, allow more generous touching than usual, are very open to going strip clubbing outside the club (after which, legit OTC), etc. They don't quite know the rules, they don't quite know the prices, they don't have any system in their heads about what limits they might need to set for themselves ITC and OTC, and if you just ride the wave, it can be pretty awesome, in a different way than OTC with a seasoned girl is. Obviously, doesn't happen a lot, but it does happen often enough that I continue to test-drive new girls.
Something I"m less certain about, I also think I sometimes get "grandfathered" in ... that is, a new girl is generous in what she delivers to me, but then I hear she shuts down other guys. "You were my first, and we've already done it, so I'm comfortable with you, but it's off the menu now for everyone else". Obviously, it's all showbiz and every stripper tries to make you think you're getting YMMV, so I can't be sure, but I will see in reviews and hear from my buddies that they can't get past some mileage level, which I easily surpassed on her 2nd day of work.
I was the first LD for a new dancer one time. It was better than expected but still sucked. I think I saw her in one of those casting couch porn videos later.
At one of my regular clubs I once met a sexy Filipina on her first night as a stripper. I passed on a chance to be the recipient of her first lap dance ever but regretted it a little while later when she gave me her second -- and easily got me off in a couple of dances! Over the next couple of years she danced for me a dozen times, always with the same result. She was a naturally sensuous dancer who knew just how to move to make her customers happy.
Come to think of it, Filipina dancers almost always take me to the promised land with their lap dances. I can think of another that I just got a couple of happiness-inducing dances from recently after a two-year hiatus to have baby #5. Over the years she has danced for me 16 times -- with 15 happy endings. What is it about Filipinas?
I think you're more likely to have fun with a newbie in a high mileage, no rules kind of club.
Newbies tend to believe management if they say "You can't do X, you can't do Y, you can't do Z. If you do you'll get fired or fined." They'll learn over time what the "real" rules are from watching and talking to other dancers.
In high milage clubs you actually might get more from newbies.
I met my current ATF about 6 years ago on her 3rd day. We hit it off right away as far a a dancer an PL can., and when I later found out she was so inexperienced our first time I was shocked, because besides the chemistry she knew what she was doing. I've bought a few dances from newbies since then, and none of them had a clue which is why I not just stay away from them, but feel like I won the lottery with my ATF.
When perusing SW; I often read the dancers talk about “new girl/dancer $$$” - i.e. according to them they often do well when they are the new/fresh girl.
I wonder if some dancers use this as their hustle making PLs think they are getting fresh meat – why else would they say they are new – there could be legitimate reasons such as nerves or just making convo; but what are the advantages to saying they are new – would not be surprise if some/many use it as a hustle.
I had a girl approach me one night at the Living Room in Dayton and wanted to sit with me. She said it was her first day as a dancer. I asked her if she wanted to make some money by giving me a couple dances.She said yes I would be her first. We went to the Relax Room and she couldn't get enough courage to take her top off let alone the bottoms. She cried sobbing through 2 songs and never even sat on my lap. Just stood there crying. I took her out and introduced her to my ATF and her girl friend. I paid them $40 each to teach her how to dance and give lap dances. She was a very pretty girl but she only lasted one week and quit.
BTW....Hello There Curiositycat !
I have had many girls say I was their first dance ever. I've even heard it from girls I saw dancing in another club. I think I was legitimately the first 3 times.
Hello there Jestrite!*waves* How goes your clubbing ventures? That was nice of you to try to help her.
Newbies/oldies/it's all the same. You never know what you will get.
@curiositycat
Been doing lots of clubbing just not going to as many new clubs. I found if there is a club somewhere that I haven't been to there is a reason for it most likely. I got Shucked and Jived at that club in New Albany IN on my first visit. No way I'm going back there. ROB's everywhere. (named some kind of frog lol!)
Hey when are we going clubbin? Would love to introduce you to some of the girls !
I ran into a new dancer the other night, strange thing in strip clubs isn't it? :). and she told me I was the first person to ever compliment her on her breasts. that's a bit sad. She perked up a good bit and went topless. I guess with small tits, she might be thinking guys just want to see her shake her ass. I thought her tits looked good and perky. much better than her ass.
It wasn't too long and some guy made it rain on her and he probably liked seeing her shake her ass. I usually prefer looking at tits. only a small percentage of strippers I see have a fit and perky ass that I actually want to watch.
Like c_cat I have been told a boatload of times that I am the first female customer that she's danced for. I'd estimate that in about 50% of the time she's full of shit, and her dances show it (in a good way). The other 50% it's a waste of my money.
Most of the times where it's the dancer's first dance it was bad. Like shadowcat, only one became my favorite, but it wasn't until two years after she started dancing.
After this is my first time dancing, the other first I often hear, is "you are the first I ever went this far with." or similar. Each time it has been total BS.
A few years ago in Indianapolis, one dancer said it was her first night. I got a couple of dances from her, didn't do any groping, just a little caressing and massaging. Throughout the night she and an experienced dancer pretty much tag-teamed me; thankfully they also let me sit, have a couple of Cokes, and just enjoy the stage show. End of the night, the newbie's future sister-in-law, a dancer I couldn't take my eyes off for most of the night, joined us. She took me by the hand, said she wanted last dance with the gentleman, and led me off to the lap dance area. That dance quickly turned into a mini make-out session and then, before I knew it, she was down on her knees, between my legs, giving me a blowjob. Sort of felt a little awkward when the other two dancers came by to check up on us and she pulled her head out from under my t-shirt (along with a little bit extra). That, sadly, was also the last time I saw any of them.
I got a dance from a girl who was new to stripping, a real 9.0 knockout. She was depressed. It was a cold day and nobody was making money. I felt sorry for her and asked if she'd do a LD with me. She gratefully said yes and as we went back she said that she was new and wasn't too good yet. Turns out that she had done only three LDs in 6 weeks to that point.
The dance that I got was easily better than 70% of the dances I had gotten before. The next time I was in, I asked her how her business was and she said that it hadn't improved. I said, "OK, come sit with me after your tip round and I'll tell you how to sell a lap dance." She did, and I proceeded to explain the psychology of selling lap dances, how to spot interested customers, how to engage them and not appear disinterested. Most important of all, when and how to ask for the sale.
Then, we went to do a lapdance; she was very coachable. I told her what moves turned me on, that boobs in the face are always welcome, to tone down (well, eliminate!) the glitter and ease up on the perfume. I told her that 30 seconds before the end of a song she should bury the PL's face between her gorgeous breasts and ask if she should keep dancing; I told her that guys get really stupid when girls do that and she would have a success rate of about 50 percent. (Hope this doesn't get me banned from tuscl!)
She sold four dances that afternoon, doubling her total for the previous six weeks! She developed into my favorite dancer for nearly two years until she introduced me to my ATF because she knew that we'd get along!
I still get a dance or two from her occasionally. She has trimmed down a bit and she is now an extremely hot 9.6.
Just shows that investing a little time and money with a new girl can pay dividends!
90% of the time they don't know what they are doing or follow the rules WAY too strictly. But, every once in a while you can strike gold. Sometimes you can "coach" them. I tell them I come there all the time and it is OK if you let me do "this" (pick a high mileage act). Some say no, but some loosen up and BAM you have created a high mileage dancer.
My best newbie was at a club where floor mileage is tame and VIP mileage is very YMMV. It was noon on a Saturday. The club was dead. Waitress pointed out a girl that was a tiny bit chunky sitting by herself. Said it was her first day and no one had bought her a dance yet. I called her over for a dance.
18 and just finishing high school. Lived with her grandmother. Without any prodding, she broke all the rules in the lap dance. I asked if she wanted to do her first VIP with me. "Hell yeah, that's a lot of money!" Off we went. The club has rooms with black curtains. In seconds she got naked, bent over the couch and spread her cheeks. I stood there in shock for a few seconds and she turned around and said "Come on, give it to me!". So I gave it to her.
The tragedy is I did not get digits. Never saw her again and heard she lasted less than a week.
Seems so many new dancers are clueless about what goes on in SCs or what a good lap-dance entails – all it should take is a couple of visits to the club of interest and maybe get a few LDs (or have her BF or male friend get some) and let her watch or have her male-friend/BF tell her how it is – not exactly rocket science.
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Maybe you're just extremely lucky Subraman! That would be brilliant!
It was terrible and mostly air.
Only one ever went on to become a favorite. She too was being taught by another dancer but this time the other dancer was one of my favorites and she taught her what I like.
Something I"m less certain about, I also think I sometimes get "grandfathered" in ... that is, a new girl is generous in what she delivers to me, but then I hear she shuts down other guys. "You were my first, and we've already done it, so I'm comfortable with you, but it's off the menu now for everyone else". Obviously, it's all showbiz and every stripper tries to make you think you're getting YMMV, so I can't be sure, but I will see in reviews and hear from my buddies that they can't get past some mileage level, which I easily surpassed on her 2nd day of work.
Yes, I realize this makes me a scumbag.
Come to think of it, Filipina dancers almost always take me to the promised land with their lap dances. I can think of another that I just got a couple of happiness-inducing dances from recently after a two-year hiatus to have baby #5. Over the years she has danced for me 16 times -- with 15 happy endings. What is it about Filipinas?
Newbies tend to believe management if they say "You can't do X, you can't do Y, you can't do Z. If you do you'll get fired or fined." They'll learn over time what the "real" rules are from watching and talking to other dancers.
In high milage clubs you actually might get more from newbies.
I wonder if some dancers use this as their hustle making PLs think they are getting fresh meat – why else would they say they are new – there could be legitimate reasons such as nerves or just making convo; but what are the advantages to saying they are new – would not be surprise if some/many use it as a hustle.
Especially in clubs with 6 or less dancers on shift, a new girl is likely going to get tried out by most of the regulars.
BTW....Hello There Curiositycat !
Newbies/oldies/it's all the same. You never know what you will get.
Been doing lots of clubbing just not going to as many new clubs. I found if there is a club somewhere that I haven't been to there is a reason for it most likely. I got Shucked and Jived at that club in New Albany IN on my first visit. No way I'm going back there. ROB's everywhere. (named some kind of frog lol!)
Hey when are we going clubbin? Would love to introduce you to some of the girls !
It wasn't too long and some guy made it rain on her and he probably liked seeing her shake her ass. I usually prefer looking at tits. only a small percentage of strippers I see have a fit and perky ass that I actually want to watch.
After this is my first time dancing, the other first I often hear, is "you are the first I ever went this far with." or similar. Each time it has been total BS.
The dance that I got was easily better than 70% of the dances I had gotten before. The next time I was in, I asked her how her business was and she said that it hadn't improved. I said, "OK, come sit with me after your tip round and I'll tell you how to sell a lap dance." She did, and I proceeded to explain the psychology of selling lap dances, how to spot interested customers, how to engage them and not appear disinterested. Most important of all, when and how to ask for the sale.
Then, we went to do a lapdance; she was very coachable. I told her what moves turned me on, that boobs in the face are always welcome, to tone down (well, eliminate!) the glitter and ease up on the perfume. I told her that 30 seconds before the end of a song she should bury the PL's face between her gorgeous breasts and ask if she should keep dancing; I told her that guys get really stupid when girls do that and she would have a success rate of about 50 percent. (Hope this doesn't get me banned from tuscl!)
She sold four dances that afternoon, doubling her total for the previous six weeks! She developed into my favorite dancer for nearly two years until she introduced me to my ATF because she knew that we'd get along!
I still get a dance or two from her occasionally. She has trimmed down a bit and she is now an extremely hot 9.6.
Just shows that investing a little time and money with a new girl can pay dividends!
My best newbie was at a club where floor mileage is tame and VIP mileage is very YMMV. It was noon on a Saturday. The club was dead. Waitress pointed out a girl that was a tiny bit chunky sitting by herself. Said it was her first day and no one had bought her a dance yet. I called her over for a dance.
18 and just finishing high school. Lived with her grandmother. Without any prodding, she broke all the rules in the lap dance. I asked if she wanted to do her first VIP with me. "Hell yeah, that's a lot of money!" Off we went. The club has rooms with black curtains. In seconds she got naked, bent over the couch and spread her cheeks. I stood there in shock for a few seconds and she turned around and said "Come on, give it to me!". So I gave it to her.
The tragedy is I did not get digits. Never saw her again and heard she lasted less than a week.