A change in policy

If it's strictly a liquor liscense issue you may start seeing juice bar clubs with bars next door.

Of course. Right after I book a flight to Detroit.....

When it happens, if it happens, it happens. The SC manager has no idea what LE thinks or has planned. Money controls everything. As long as the SCs make money, pay tax, and no one gets hurt we're fine. Behave yourselves and spend money and they'll leave it alone. It's banned near the new red wings arena. They'll allow it in isolated areas as long as everyone pays their bills and behaves.

More often than not over the last few years it seems certain areas that were once fertile SC areas are now SC wastelands – it seems when local authorities bring down the hammer hard they usually mean it and seems as if they want to do away w/ the SCs in their locality – some areas get a slap on the wrist every now and then and things chill for a few weeks b/f going back to biz as usual; but the Detroit scene on the surface seems like a bringing down the hammer situation.

As long as it does not spill to the surrounding areas then it's not the end of the extras world.

With all the problems in the city they think *this* is top priority? SMH.

This does sound serious. But also, I told you so. I explained when I first joined that these local unconstitutional ordinances are far more serious than the state penal code 647b. The later is very hard to enforce, where as the former is designed to be easily enforced.

They use the later to justify the former, but the former is going into effect before their is any proof of the later. So what you have are ordinances regulating conduct which would not be regulated anywhere else. What is prohibited in a strip club is not prohibited on the sidewalk out in front. This is why it is unconstitutional. It is simply an attempt to regulate speech and expression.

If the clubs in Detroit are able to beat or subvert this, maybe clubs in other places can too?

The places that I have heard of as once having maximum mileage black dives, but then losing them to such ordinances, are Jackson and Memphis.

SJG

What is happening in DET?? No more pvt dances or VIP rooms???

Haha, time to go to TJ boys. See what a real whorehouse is like.

^ supposedly some clubs have either already removed their VIPs or made them completely open.

Surely someone here has recent first hand experience?

Nooooo. Not before I get to visit! I knew I should have gone to Detroit clubs before now. Damn.

The suburban Detroit clubs-- like Flight Club, BT's, Landing Strip, Subi's, Bogart's--continue to offer ultra high mileage in private VIP booths. If Detroit enforces its rules, let's hope these rules don't spread to the suburbs.

HT's doesn't and never has had a VIP.

At least not an enclosed one anyway...

I visited HT's in my July 2014 D trip and don't recall seeing any VIP dance area/booths and no dancers mentioned one either – but I've only hit the place once.

Thanks for the update SuperDude

The "City of Detroit" is not Inkster or Deaborn!

I've got a flight booked 45 days out. Hopefully it will be business as usual. If not there's Romulus, Inkster and Dearborn. I believe the strip clubs on 8 mile are some of the most prosperous businesses on 8 mile!

Yeah – HT's is a black club that seems to only have a decent crowd and decent # of dancers at night and more specifically weekend nights.

I guess I'll keep saving up for a FKK holiday in Deutchland

Fuck that faggot RickyBoy!

SuperDude, thanks for the post. A couple of years ago I was in the Penthouse club and the owner said on the microphone for everyone to hear that he would be that last strip club standing in Detroit. At the time I didn't think anything of it but now it may just be about how much money Alan has and how much he is willing to spend to keep his clubs open.

My opinion is that the clubs would do fine if they can keep the girls. The problem is in Detroit you can't keep the girls without the money from good dances and extras. Miami, the girls can get by on stage tips at the big clubs.

Rech SUYSF (show us your sausage fingers;))

No lap dances and no VIP? Then it's not even a strip club anymore...just a bar with half naked females walking around.....I see a huge traffic increase of online escorting

Have not seen this happen yet.

As far as the club's I've been to, it's business as usual.

We'be been hearing this type of thing for quite some time now. The sky isn't falling.

And I've only heard of one club (vert) that's actually closed VIPs. And I don't frequent that club, so I dont care.

“... A couple of years ago I was in the Penthouse club and the owner said on the microphone for everyone to hear that he would be that last strip club standing in Detroit ...”

The Penthouse is the first club that came to mind when these rumors started – PHC seems like a pretty powerful club in terms of its deep pockets and I wondered if Alan's $$$ would be able to overcome the city's BS.

This could be merely a rumor, an effort to stop clubs from pushing towards all nude dancing, a shakedown by certain cops or a new policy of enforcement by Detroit's mayor who previously served as the Wayne County Prosecuter. I'll try to keep my ear to the ground while other portions of my anatomy are serviced.

....Prosecutor...

Per the latest Ace of Spades review; reviewer states the VIP rooms there no longer have curtains and are now open.

Let's be constructive and tone it down. Remember that reviews are works of fiction. Except for Dougster. His really happened.

In reading reviews it would seem that Toy Chest is another club that has removed it's curtains. It seems this is a Detroit city ordinance enforcement which would only effect a percentage of the clubs in the area, notably TC, Players, BT's, Coliseum, Trummp's and Penthouse to name a few that I have visited. Things like this seem to ebb and flow with time and as long as there are options in other cities (suburbs like Inkster) it should not greatly affect a night out on the town. Hopefully the tide will turn back the other direction in due course.

Don't know what influence this had, but in 2010 Penthouse started a lawsuit against the City of Detroit after the new ordinance was passed. This wasn't settled until last month when the Penthouse claims against the City of Detroit were dismissed.