Now I don't have any experience with either of these, but I've got a couple of questions on this subject.
I have heard that most escorts won't do BBBJ, instead they do CBJ. I'm assuming then when y'all fuck a stripper OTC, that pretty much all of them will do BBBJ.
Is all of this true? If so, why do most escorts not do BBBJ, but the strippers OTC don't seem to have a problem with it?
On a side note, I'd rather just jerk myself off than get a lame ass CBJ.
So ranukam you have reviewed 33 club's and never done OTC with a stripper??? or are you the guy that claims he always gets stripper pussy for free...LOL!
I've got no problem with a CBJ and while condoms are not foolproof, it is much better than the possibility of getting something you cant get rid of... In my limited experience with escorts, I have chosen the CBJ route much as gawker noted. They see different people all the time so I would rather be safe than sorry. Best I ever had was from a provider named Ember Simmers. I will only do BBFS with my significant other.
@tlkDope- I have done OTC with strippers, but notice the title of my thread says P4P. I have never done P4P OTC because I am super paranoid about LE.
ranukam- I have used TER escorts a couple of times and what I see in the reviews from the male hobbyists is that the providers usually offer BBBJ's, but will only do CFS. Most will not CIM nor offer Greek.
Of course I have different needs so the providers adapt accordingly ;)
I can't really speculate on what goes in in the minds of strippers or escorts. I can say in general, the perception is that oral sex carries a lower risk of long term consequences than traditional intercourse. This lowers the bar for willingness to engage in unprotected oral activities. I also tend to assume that strippers have a smaller quantity of partners or at the very least a lower frequency of encounters. As others have said, strippers tend to have an increased familiarity and potentially more discretion with partners. So, depending on perspective either the escorts think the risk is high or the dancers think its low.
In other words, escorts are trying to compensate for the increased risk associated with sucking a larger number of unfamiliar cocks want some protection while the ones sucking fewer more familiar ones are willing to risk it. It seems to balance out to me.
I can't offer much on your original premise as I can't compare willingness of those two classes of cocksuckers. Based on the concepts I outlined, it would seem to follow...
My ATF and I have talked at length about why and when she offers extras. Some of it almost makes sense, but mostly I think it depends on 2 factors: money and the guy's "hotness". She'll suck dick in VIP with her few regulars and occasionally with a stranger. No CIM for anyone - she hates it. Her regulars she'll do bareback. One time she complained to me that a guy who's a real asshole came in her mouth. She had told him not to and he got her. She said she punched him in the balls and said she was gonna get the manager if he didn't pay her a $500 tip. He did! Sure she was getting the manager. She occasionally will do CFS in VIP with regulars. I've been staying away from her lately for a variety of reasons so she's been recruiting a new OTC regular or two. Today she told me she's got a possible candidate who drives a Bentley Convertable. Bottom line: in her drug addled mind, she's got one thing to sell and she's got to maximize her income to support her habit. Now, what I pay $500 for, she gets $750 from another and will drop to $200 for a really "hot" guy. It makes sense to her.
I've done both, and if you get a well reviewed escort that is a professional, you can pretty much get whatever you're willing to pay for.
The escorts tend to be more reliable and discreet meaning you don't have to explain away phone calls at strange hours and that sort of thing.
On the other hand, escorts screen their clients, so getting what you want is a lot more work until after you get past her screening and she is willing to see you.
During my limited experience with escorts, they all did BBBJ. On TER, I think most the mongers expect BBBJ from the providers. At AMP's it is all CBJ and I have had some good ones.
It's covered CFS that sucks but I'm way to wary to go BB.
Same here bro, zero experience on escorts. Though I almost agreed to go for a service with a massage attendant while I was in Houston TX.
Still trying to perfect my game on the stripper end here, not very much in years compared to others here, eventually it will get there.
So far, I'm getting good experience with strippers. BBBJ and latex for FS.
@LDK - did the stripper elaborate on the green jizz? Was the dude LMN? Apparently taking too many drugs can turn your jizz green.
Or maybe Mr. Green Jizz was the BagBoy. All the cadmium from the dump where James lives. Did the hooker say that the John with green jizz paid her Piggly Wiggly coupons?
It sounds like most of you are saying that most Escorts do BBBJ. I looked at an escort site once, (I forget what it was called) and it looked like 80% of the girls were doing CBJ, not BBBJ. I had thought it was because escorts service so many guys, so the chance for diseases was higher, therefore they wanted to be safe. With strippers, they can choose who they want to do P4P OTC with, so I thought that's why most of them were fine with BBBJ.
That's why I love this board, there is great information and knowledge shared and it's honest for the most part. Pretty much the opposite of Stripperweb.
Escorts are about 50% in my limited experience for BBBJ, but I stay away from the ones who won't do it. I agree that dancers are much more likely to do bbbj than escorts.
No one should do bbfs with a professional sex worker, meaning escorts, but there are dancers who don't have sex with customers on a constant basis and don't do IV drugs, so having bbfs is not as risky as the media suggests with the right person. If you're having OTC with a dancer you just met, bbfs is far too risky because she's a pro.
I have much more experience with escorts and, more particularly, with massage parlour girls, than I do with strippers.
I have NEVER been able to negotiate BBBJ with a massage parlour girl in Canada nor BBBJ with escorts in Canada and Europe.
Art, is that because it's more or less legal in Canada, and so they tend to follow the rules?
In SF a pretty high percentage of the AMP ladies will do bbbj with a regular as SOP, but will only do CBJ with you until you've seen each other at least a couple of times.
rockstar: ". If you're having OTC with a dancer you just met, bbfs is far too risky because she's a pro"
Shhhh! I hear RickyBoy reads these kinds of threads. You'll spoil his delusions.
@georg,
No, georg, I think it is mostly a health issue. STDs and all that stuff. No girl has ever told me that no-BBBJ was parlour policy. I always ask for BBBJ, you know.
Massage parlour girls in a busy studio in Edmonton or Calgary can easily service 6-10 guys per shift in the parlour + all her takeout business after the parlour closes. All massage parlours in Alberta close at 11:00PM.
Unlike the 24 hour 7-11 convenience stores throughout the world, Alberta massage parlours are true 7:00AM to 11:00PM businesses.
@georg...
I'm late to the show on this thread... but to follow up on what farmerart said...
Canada and most of western Europe are way better at safe sex practices across the bard than American's.
For me, gawker got the most important distinction in response #2. With an escort, typically you go, get surprised on whether she looks good or not, have sex, leave. With a stripper, typically I've seen her a bunch of times in the club already, know that I'm attracted to her, know that I like her stripper personality (or I wouldn't have asked her OTC), know whether her hygiene is good, know that I love drinking with her (I've already done it in the club). And most of my stripper OTCs last many hours, even though we've already negotiated a low fixed rate. All of these things are far more important to me than any differences in the sex.
An escort leaves in the morning a stripper wants to stay and set up house.
Based on my personal experiences; both escorts and strippers are equally OBSESSED with doing everything safe. They have always been the first to grab a "raincoat" before me and they are this way because they have encounters with different people regularly. If they weren't; then it would be like playing Russian Roulette.
A handful of escorts and strippers will engage in unsafe acts but they are a SMALL MINORITY. Between the two it is likely to occur more so with the stripper.
The primary benefit of OTC with strippers over escorts in my limited experience has been having an opportunity to meet, get to know, and share histories with strippers. Many escorts are not available prior to or after the brief encounter. I have two strippers who I meet outside on a fairly regular basis. I've got a pretty good idea who they've been having sex with and they know who I've been with. My ATF and I have shared our std test results and while not foolproof, this has allowed BBBJ and BBFS for years with no problems so far. I've often wondered if I could find a local escort that I could get to know to save money, but her clientele would change weekly whereas the strippers tend to just see regulars.