Townie Bar vs. City Club

Pretty accurate summary, for the most part. Although, I have found that "Girls aren't as likely to be good looking or great dancers," has not been true more times than it was true in Townie Bars.

You also might want to add the Big City Dive. This bar is similar to a small town Townie Bar, except:

• Often smaller than a townie bar.
• Dancers are often older and at the end of their career, if not way beyond it.
• Often a lot of extras, ITC and OTC offered.
• Often suspicious of new customers, so unless the dancer recognizes you from another club, or you have visited many times, dances will be lame. -- Often a Juke Box or automated dance system rather than a DJ.
• Usually located in a really bad section of town, or in an out of way area.

thats the vibe i get too. i definitely prefer the city clubs types. im not a fan of the townie bars. or as i've seen some call it, neighborhood bars.

I'm a Townie.

@rl27: Yeah, we have one place like that in our area. Honestly, I've never been. A little afraid of what I'll find. I did say there was variation on the theme. Basically a Townie Bar in a city.

I get the sense the kinds of guys that like those kinds of places probably aren't TUSCL kind of guys.

Definitely more of a city type myself. There is one townie kind of place I'll go to, but it's only because of one girl I have a good thing going with. There's one other girl there worth seeing naked and she's not nearly as fun in the back. The rest ... yeah, they'd never make it in the city clubs I go to.

I always thought that Townies were the folk who lived in a college town 365?

Townie bars are great for regulars, not so great for out-of-town visitors. Since I usually travel, I go to the upscale places primarily. However, if I had a good small little club near me, I would most likely be a regular there.

That's a pretty good comparison!

The club I frequent is more 'townie'. I get great service since everyone knows me, but it's not a club for extras unfortunately. The girls are 'townie' too for the most part but there's a few that could work in a more upscale place. Prices are very cheap for drinks and dances.

An example of a really scary strip club I like? Outer Space club in Philly. Example of the type of gentleman's club I hate beyond belief? Scores NYC. Best locals club? Inner Room Cabaret in Cocoa Beach.

Honestly it is nearly impossible to come up with one-size-fits-all labels for types of clubs because so much of this depends upon regional influences.

For example, many clubs in KS and WI would be considered townie clubs, yet some of the girls are very hot (these are their only local club options) and ITC services are bad in most of them and OTC is difficult to find. Same holds true in many of the "townie" clubs that are located in other culturally conservative areas. The girls involved are afraid of losing their jobs and of being labelled as whores. They also need less cash, since housefees/tipouts are low and rent and utilities costs are quite low compared to other areas, so they are under less pressure to walk out of the club flush.

In big city clubs, OTOH, the girls are under much more pressure to earn. It costs them more just to work and their living expenses are higher. Now ITC/OTC fun tends to be very expensive with these girls, but it is often available if one is willing to pay the freight. Manhattan is a great example of this, as is Vegas.

My favorite type of club is a tweener between these two extremes. Clubs located in and around small cities tend to be my best hunting ground. They are less expensive than big city clubs, but many of them still have strong talent and the girls still need to earn a fair amount to live well in those areas. They are also culturally diverse enough that the issues relating to labels and social pressures aren't as evident.

@rick: I made reference to that kind of place near the end of my post. I think of a couple of the Rockford, Ill. places I've been to as examples.

I guess there are some "best of both worlds" places. Brad's in Indy comes to mind as a place with a bar feel but club-level talent. But in my experience, you're almost guaranteed to have a few 9-10s at a big-city club on a weekend night, even if you won't get as much out of them, versus the townie bar, which will always be a crapshoot, especially if you're from out-of-town.

At the end of the day, I think we all end up leaning toward one or the other, depending on whether we're looking for value & service (townie) or hotness (city). Count me in the city camp.

I hear you AJ. I just don't think that clubs come in two distinct categories, but rather in more of a spectrum of different types. Out of roughly 3000 clubs listed on tuscl, maybe 100 or so would fit into that "city club" category as you define it (very large, opulent, in a "big city", etc.). The rest come in a myriad of different flavors, of all different sizes, customer bases, talent levels, decors, regional influences, etc.

I think what you are really saying is that you like one particular variety, which is cool and to each his own. I'm just not sure that it is an "either/or" scenario.

I see what you're saying.

Let me put it this way: I think clubs aspire to be one or the other. The end result is a gradient, but the goal is one thing or the other.

Case in point: Milwaukee has a couple Vegas-style clubs. It's what they aspire to be and, compared to everything else in Wisconsin, they stand apart. Compare those clubs to Chicago's gown clubs, however, and the Milwaukee ones don't appear to have anywhere near the talent, style, aloofness, etc.

It's all relative.

Townie Bar vs City Club=dive vs upscale.

I want where dey have dat Ciroc

@anonymousjim: we have both in seattle, or all 3 including if you include rl27s big city dives. I like the divey spots with lots of extras, and aftermarket mods turn me off. I just happen to live in a medium sized city.

What is a gown club?

This thread is 8 years old. I doubt that most of the people who posted in it are still around.

But it was interesting reading my cogent and entirely on-point responses from 8 years ago. 😉

Oh shit, I should have checked. Suckered into an ancient thread again...

Here we say locals vs touristy.... price is a factor. But not much else differs

Zombie threads don't bite, you don't necessarily have to shoot them in the brain.

Really by far my priorities are:

1. I can get one dance (to see if I click with a dancer) for $20 - 30. And the dancers don't see song-by-song dances a basically just a chance to sell long dances in the "better" VIP.
2. At least three quarters of what I spend leaves the club in dancer's purses. Motivated dancers are by far the main factor in a strip club being good for me.

"Townie" clubs are more likely to have these advantages, but not always. Downtown Toronto clubs are pretty ritzy, but they seem to run circles around US clubs, when it comes to keeping their fingers out of the dancers' purses.