Having the OTC conversation even when you probably won't do it
ReadyPayerOne
Does anyone else have the OTC conversation with dancers even when you know you're not going to do it?
I was traveling on business and stopped by a favorite club. I had to get up early the next day so I knew i wouldn't be at the club late and that I wouldn't be recruiting dancers for after club hours OTC activity. I also am not big on champagne rooms so I just took $400. Enough to still have some money left in my wallet after drinks, maybe 10-12 lap dances, some stage tipping, and cab fare back to the hotel.
A cute dancer comes over, sits on the armrest of my chair and starts talking to me. I'm enjoying her shtick so after a minute or two I invite her to sit down at my table. We chat, I buy us drinks, and after maybe 15 minutes we head over to the lap dance area.
Again, my plan is to just stick to lap dances. Well, two songs in, the conversation turns to the crowds on different nights of the week and how annoying she finds the young guys are on weekends. How they hassle her about what she's gonna do for them in VIP, and how it ruins her mood and makes her not want to give them a good experience even though she knows how to take care of people in VIP.
So I'm thinking to myself, "oh boy, here's the VIP pitch..." but at the same time I'm kind of admiring how she planted the seed for "fun in VIP."
I have no intentions of doing VIP and I don't want her trying to sell it repeatedly while I'm enjoying my dances so I just nicely tell her I'm not doing VIP tonight. She says "ok, that's cool".
Here's where something clicks in my brain and the OTC recruiting auto-pilot kicks in. I tell her that I don't mind spending that type of money, but that I don't find VIP private enough so I typically look for dancers that are comfortable entertaining me in my hotel room. I actually think in my head "fuck, where did that come from? It just flowed smoothly out of my mouth..." Anyway, her eyes light up and she goes "oh, i can do that too!"
I tell her I'm leaving town tomorrow so I figure that'll end the conversation, but she counters with "well, you're in town tonight..." I respond that I have to be up early so I want to get to bed early, so I can't be staying up until her shift ends at 2:00 am.
Still, autopilot won't quit, and I find myself asking her if she wants to give me her contact info for the next time I'm in town. I give her full disclosure that I only come to her town 3-4x a year, and the next visit may not be until the fall, or even early 2015, but she still gives me her phone number.
On the cab ride back to the hotel I'm smiling to myself and wondering why I couldn't just keep it at lap dances and a good night. I blame TUSCL! I feel like it has created some kind of muscle memory where hints from dancers trigger OTC-arranging responses even when I'm not really in the market for it.
Anyone else find themselves doing this?
I was traveling on business and stopped by a favorite club. I had to get up early the next day so I knew i wouldn't be at the club late and that I wouldn't be recruiting dancers for after club hours OTC activity. I also am not big on champagne rooms so I just took $400. Enough to still have some money left in my wallet after drinks, maybe 10-12 lap dances, some stage tipping, and cab fare back to the hotel.
A cute dancer comes over, sits on the armrest of my chair and starts talking to me. I'm enjoying her shtick so after a minute or two I invite her to sit down at my table. We chat, I buy us drinks, and after maybe 15 minutes we head over to the lap dance area.
Again, my plan is to just stick to lap dances. Well, two songs in, the conversation turns to the crowds on different nights of the week and how annoying she finds the young guys are on weekends. How they hassle her about what she's gonna do for them in VIP, and how it ruins her mood and makes her not want to give them a good experience even though she knows how to take care of people in VIP.
So I'm thinking to myself, "oh boy, here's the VIP pitch..." but at the same time I'm kind of admiring how she planted the seed for "fun in VIP."
I have no intentions of doing VIP and I don't want her trying to sell it repeatedly while I'm enjoying my dances so I just nicely tell her I'm not doing VIP tonight. She says "ok, that's cool".
Here's where something clicks in my brain and the OTC recruiting auto-pilot kicks in. I tell her that I don't mind spending that type of money, but that I don't find VIP private enough so I typically look for dancers that are comfortable entertaining me in my hotel room. I actually think in my head "fuck, where did that come from? It just flowed smoothly out of my mouth..." Anyway, her eyes light up and she goes "oh, i can do that too!"
I tell her I'm leaving town tomorrow so I figure that'll end the conversation, but she counters with "well, you're in town tonight..." I respond that I have to be up early so I want to get to bed early, so I can't be staying up until her shift ends at 2:00 am.
Still, autopilot won't quit, and I find myself asking her if she wants to give me her contact info for the next time I'm in town. I give her full disclosure that I only come to her town 3-4x a year, and the next visit may not be until the fall, or even early 2015, but she still gives me her phone number.
On the cab ride back to the hotel I'm smiling to myself and wondering why I couldn't just keep it at lap dances and a good night. I blame TUSCL! I feel like it has created some kind of muscle memory where hints from dancers trigger OTC-arranging responses even when I'm not really in the market for it.
Anyone else find themselves doing this?
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Dancer: "how annoying she finds the young guys are on weekends. How they hassle her about what she's gonna do for them in VIP, and how it ruins her mood and makes her not want to give them a good experience even though she knows how to take care of people in VIP."
You: "I tell her that I don't mind spending that type of money, but that I don't find VIP private enough so I typically look for dancers that are comfortable entertaining me in my hotel room. I actually think in my head "fuck, where did that come from? It just flowed smoothly out of my mouth..."
Hustler meets hustler.
Good story. I read your reviews - quite enjoyable. Keep it up fellow PL !
@Gawker-uno pa'ti.
Most would chalk that up to SS - like she'll really remember you months later - but you never can tell.
Had a similar situation to RP1, business trip, had a fun evening in the club with a dancer, she gives me her number, tells me to call her next time I'm in town. My next trip isn't until 3-4 months later and I'd lost her number by then. Go to the club, dancer spots me, walks over and says "why didn't you call me?"
That's what I was thinking....it's always a good idea to hone your skills!
I don’t do OTC or ITC (extras) much – I like variety and spreading my cash among all the different dancers I find attractive in a club – I also hate getting caught up in dancer drama and no-shows flakiness.
Even then; I often find it hard to turn down when a dancer gives me her #.
So, to me — nothing wrong with what you did. Next time around, go for it.
I've found it sometimes works great with less pressure to discuss a future hook up. Of course it often falls apart too.
But I've rarely had that discussion with no plans of it happening.