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So this girl, we'll call her MJ, auditioned the same night I did. We both got hired and work 2 of the same nights during the week. We were talking about average take-home and she said typically made less than $150, often less than $100 during the week. When I first started a lot of the girls offered advice to me on how to make more money, and now that I'm doing pretty well I want to help her. I'm just confused because it doesn't seem like she's doing anything wrong or that would majorly turn guys off.
She's average height and slender, brunette, long straight hair. I'd say she has kind of a Tori Black-esque body with slightly smaller boobs. She looks athletic. She's pretty tan and has a few tattoos. Her makeup is a bit heavy but to me most of the girls in there would look better with less. She has a nose ring, but again a lot of girls do.
The only thing that sent up a red flag to me is that she said she tells customers she has a boyfriend if they ask, but at the same time I don't really know if that's a major turn off to customers. She said sometimes guys will also mention their wives/girlfriends so it's not too weird. I think it's cool that she's honest, but #1 I probably couldn't work in a strip club if I had a boyfriend and #2 I'd probably leave his existence out of the conversation if I did. What do you guys think though? Are you less attracted to a girl if she tells you this?
I know this will vary from guy to guy, but I'm interested to hear your perspectives. What are some things strippers have said to you or told you about themselves that have really turned you off?
She's average height and slender, brunette, long straight hair. I'd say she has kind of a Tori Black-esque body with slightly smaller boobs. She looks athletic. She's pretty tan and has a few tattoos. Her makeup is a bit heavy but to me most of the girls in there would look better with less. She has a nose ring, but again a lot of girls do.
The only thing that sent up a red flag to me is that she said she tells customers she has a boyfriend if they ask, but at the same time I don't really know if that's a major turn off to customers. She said sometimes guys will also mention their wives/girlfriends so it's not too weird. I think it's cool that she's honest, but #1 I probably couldn't work in a strip club if I had a boyfriend and #2 I'd probably leave his existence out of the conversation if I did. What do you guys think though? Are you less attracted to a girl if she tells you this?
I know this will vary from guy to guy, but I'm interested to hear your perspectives. What are some things strippers have said to you or told you about themselves that have really turned you off?
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There is NOT anything about their personal lives that will turn me off.
BUT after we have concluded an agreement for VIP Room activities, and are in the room - if she says that there are parts of her body that are out of bounds [Except for kitty {This is sort of standard}] then that is a turn off.
Speaking of the kitty. If her pussy hygiene is poor & the pussy SMELLS, that ENDS all activities immediately & she NEVER gets another 1¢ from me!
Personally; if I have not asked/brought-it-up; then I really don’t want to hear about your BF.
Older SCers are more realistic in that they know, or should know, the dancer would not realistically be interested in them romantically – also; many of the older guys may be married and could care less if the dancer has a BF as long as the dancer takes care of him.
All in all; when a dancer is dealing w/ a custie; it should be about the custie – so a dancer should leave her BF out of it; unless the PL specifically asks.
Anyway.... Nothing really turns me off too much when talking with a dancer. I am like Alucard....if I smell something....I am out of there.
But it is more attitude that is the attraction. I mean if she is confident and can keep up a conversation it is a good thing. If she seems interested in our conversation it helps. I mean she could be talking with these people but could seem distant.
Some things I’ve noticed w/ newbies:
+ they may feel shy or apprehensive about asking the PL for dances – she may talk to him and expect him to ask – this is a mistake IMO - although some PLs will ask; some/many won’t and wait for the dancer to ask him (for dances; etc.)
+ some newbies don’t approach many if any PLs and think if the PL is interested in a dance; he’ll ask/approach-her – this is a good way to lose out on a lot of potential biz – you never know when you’ll meet “Mr. Right†that may be really into you and spend well on you
Just some thoughts – hard to say exactly why w/o having experienced your dancer friend.
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IMHO duomaxwell, you are wrong.
I'm not looking for a statue, or a Zombie, or ghost or something less than Human. I'm looking for a 100% living, breathing REAL Human woman who will provide an experience that I'm looking for.
A good example.
IMHO duomaxwell, you are wrong.â€
alucard do you realize how incredibly stupid your statement is? in duo’s EXPERIENCE she makes more money if…..
and you make the asinine comment that she is wrong about her own experience. just how fucking stupid are you?
Whenever I talk to this girl she seems lively and outgoing. I enjoy watching her dance too. A lot of the girls at my club just kind of stand there and sway and she's one of the few that get into it. We have very different looks though so I haven't gotten to experience what she's like while talking with customers. I'm going to show her this thread though when I see her next. Thank you guys!
I took this to possibly mean that many PLs look at dancers as just a sex object or piece of meat and not necessarily as a person.
As far as the boyfriend goes, I don't think it's really that much of a detriment to making money, assuming she isn't constantly talking about him. I never ask personal questions myself, I don't mind a dancer volunteering personal information, but I'd just as soon not hear about abusive ex-boyfriends and things like that.
What does this mean? Please elaborate , duo
Boner killers:
Pussy odor
Telling me to watch my hands before the dance starts
One and done every time.
But as for my PL self; I absolutely cannot think w/ both heads at the same time – I’m terrible at multitasking.
I enjoy engaging in stimulating convo – but although that will def engage my upper head; it tends to make my lower head go to sleep.
If I want my upper head stimulated; I watch PBS or the Discovery Channel – when I SC; I rather have my lower head stimulated (PBS and the Discover Channel are not as good at this).
They say men are visual – and that is certainly the case for me – engaging in convo is a distraction for me from getting my freak on :).
What is acting like an object mean to you though? Just acting really ditzy and not taking the conversation away from the immediate environment?
I've never thought too much about this, but I wonder if there is major differences among clubs (either regionally or accordin to club type -- upscale or dive) in how strippers present themselve presentation (e.g., in NYC they project a distant vibe but in Jacksonville they're down home gals) or if most of the variance is among girls. I've never noticed major differences when I travel.
Dancers are like anyone in sales. You need to get people comfortable. A way to do that is to have common interests or share knowledge. Which means to be good you need to know a little bit about a lot of things. Then like others have stated....tell a little about yourself and get the conversation geared towards the client...Build common ground...then talk a little about the product....then go for the sale. It gets people off their guard or let their guard down and more open to say yes. That is a simple sales tactic that works.
But the part about talk about the product....this is kind of simple the product is the dancer so he can see the product. but she can discuss the options of the club....ie price of LD's on floor, VIP Pricing, etc. I have noticed many reviews lately have talked about getting a tour of the club by a dancer....then they end up in VIP with them. That can also help break the ice and also give a chance for contact....ie put an arm around the customer, hold hands, etc. (See next comments)
Now for some non-verbal things (in the club and not regular sales)that work on me and I am sure other PL's is sitting with a customer and contact....it could be a hand on a knee....a touch of the shoulder....touch on the arm. Doing this while carrying on a conversation makes the transition of asking the main question "u want a dance" is easier and will get a yes more often than not.
I would not discuss your boyfriend unless the guy specifically asks. I would not mention you have kids unless asked.
I once agreed to get a lap dance from a new dancer and she decided to kill a oouple of minutes before the song started by talking about her kids. That was a turn off. I did not want to think about her kids while she is dancing for me.
I probably wouldn't have cared afterwards since the dance was over. Just think about the image in the guys head. Her sexy body or one she just created of 3 kids aged 3, 5, and 7. What do you think would turn me off or on?
Sometimes one dancer likes to talk dirty and that can be a turn on. Sometimes ancers ask what I would like them to do and that can be a turn on if you keep getting dances from her. Some guys won"t know how to answer that question though. The guy might not even know what is ok for the dancers to do in the club. For instance can she sit completely up on top of the guy during the dance or does she need to keep a foot on the floor? I have found a few positions feel a lot better than the typical dancer positions.
If she stinks even if she is my type, I will tell her maybe later. I tried that and did not enjoy the stink even with beer and lots of smoke. Stink is a turn off. Lots of times, dancers do not even seem to realize it. About 99 percent of the time, I think guys won't say anything about her stinking either not wanting to be the one to tell her.
It may not seem fair but pretty girls get a lot more attention. Personality can give someone the edge after that. People like to talk about their own interests but often like to talk about mutual interests.
I've met several dancers from other countries. What harm is there by naming a state or country? None that I know of. Many dancers tell me what city they are living in like it means no big deal. They almost always mention a larger city. One dancer mentioned a small town near where I lived. She practically became my drinking buddy in the club.
High-earning dancers develop good instincts about the perfect moment to pop the "would you like a dance?" question. Clearly she doesn't have this instinct, so she should just ask every customer. If he says "maybe later", she should come back in an hour or so, because fuck him if he can't just say "no thanks".
Is she doing something like only allowing one-way contact in a club where the norm is two-way? If she wants to get away with less-than-average contact, she will have to be much-more-than-average in the looks department.
Think tittyfan is more interested in meating bouncers than strippers... Maybe the two of you could talk about shoes or something, though.
Yes that was a bit rude.
I don't need to hear about that shit during a dance or at all, really. I don't mind if the girl says she has a boyfriend or husband, so long as I don't hear a lot about them. I usually assume they have a boyfriend unless they specifically state otherwise, honestly.