Am I getting played? Am I buying to the SC fantasy too much or is this stripper
sketchball
Michigan
However, last night I had the most unusual experience in a strip club I've ever had: I bought into the fantasy. I want your input, so let me share the story.
I went to the Hustler Club in Baltimore. It has the hottest girls in the area, and it is the best club, but it also has the strictest rules regarding extras. I met a great stripper we'll call X. I had talked to several for the evening, politely declining any dances or any extended conversation. X made her way to my seat and started talking. She was EXACTLY my type.
We talked for about 15 minutes. We had instant chemistry, which is not unusual for me. I'm very personable, friendly, and make excellent money, so the girls are more than willing to invest time and energy with me trying to get dances. Up until this point, all his completely normal. Nothing has happened that is unusual. After about 90 minutes, I decided to take some dances. We got to the back, and I told X that she was my new stripper crush. She blushed and told me that she wasn't seeing anyone and had a crush on me too. At this point, I was still being skeptical and assumed it was part of the fantasy, but I went with it. Then she started pushing me a little bit.
First, she told me she wanted to prove that she wasn't with anyone. I said how are you going to do that. She told me she would discretely look around to make sure we weren't being watched, but she wanted me to slide a finger all the way into her vagina to feel how tight it was. She said that because she was tight, she wanted me to believe that she wasn't having sex with anyone. I was like mkay. It was incredibly tight and very wet I might add. On a side note, between porn, strip clubs, sorority girls, and ex-girlfriends, I've seen lots of pussies. She had one of the nicest one's I've ever seen: that perfect balance between shaved, tight, no roast beef, and looks like a slit from a frontal (my fav). Then she grabbed me by the back of the head and started making out with me. I thought this was an amazing fantasy and she was just milking me for money at this point. I tipped her well, and expected her to go away like most stripper do so they have a good night. Alas, she stayed in my lap all night long. I told her how much I had left, and she was willing to stay for the next 5 hours on my lap for the $300 I had left. That was still good money I guess. It ensured she made $600 for the night, which is a little better than average Saturday night for a good stripper at a club like this, but certainly not a great night. Okay. As the night went on, she made a big deal of showing me her pussy whenever she could get away with it, taking my phone and calling herself to get my number, discretely petting my member, and ever 10 minutes she would whisper in my ear that she wanted me, though I had an amazing smile, was the man of her dreams, or she "knew" there was a reason she needed to come in on Saturday when she wanted to sleep. I still assumed this was all part of the fantasy, although giving me her number seemed a bit aggressive for fantasy.
Then moment the fantasy ended was when she told me "I'm not saying I want to marry you or anything, but I want to meet up with you out of the club to see if we can give this a shot." I explained I had a GF, and her response was "we can consider it FWB if you want, but I want to meet up." Then I told her I lived out fo the area. She then asked if I would be willing to fly her out to see me sometimes. I was confused. I explained my confusion, and she made it clear she didn't want to be my sugar baby, she just wanted a chance to date me to see where it went. She gave me her real name and told me where she lived. I told her that if i ever flew her out I would want to have sex. We could be friends too of course, but I would expect sex: and that I don't use condoms. She said that was find, but she did want to get to continue to know me before she'd be ready for that, emphasizing she was not a slut or prostitute. That night she started texting me, including sending me several pictures (non-sexting).
So, anyone else buying into this? This is like every guy's fantasy right? That the stripper he likes best at the club wants to be his free mistress? Am I being played the fool?
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If you're a guy like that, I think it's real for sure, stud. ;-)
LOW! Funny story thanks for sharing. Made me chuckle.
It's not impossible that she really just wants your dick. Improbable, yes -- the dancer/client relationship is something based on lies and cash, not truth and emotion. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Just keep in mind how hard it is to switch from the former to the latter.
It's funny; I'm going through something similar and just happened to see this. My girl won't see me outside the club yet. We'll see.
How do I know this?
If you didn't bang her that, and have to ask her, sorry, but you ain't got that kind of game...
OR, she might be batshit crazy.
OR, she might simply be a little flaky and horny as hell.
OR, she might have a compulsion to ruin as many men's lives as she can.
OR, she might have a compulsive need to belong to someone.
OR, she might be the love of your life.
Really, what are the odds?
https://www.tuscl.net/u.php?UID=358092
Yep.
Yup. Happens to me too. My ATF is married and I'm
Fat and 25 years older than she is. Yup, that's proof. Lol
I have my own recent conundrum of trying to detect SS from a girl that tried to hand back the money for a few LD's.
Nice reference dougster....that dude knows his shit
13 years experience? Think you'd know better.
RE: "played like a fiddle" -- you're probably correct. I still have skepticism, which is why I posted this.
RE: 13 years experience -- I am using that experience. I am telling you this right now, that girl made me believe that she meant what she said. Maybe she was rolling and felt it at the time; maybe I reminder her of her childhood best friend; maybe I'm the exact opposite of her that molested her and ex BF that broke her heart. I don't know. But I do know I bought her emotion. That is not something g I can recreate here.
RE: truth of story -- This is 100% true as I remember it , with some other compelling details left out for brevity: it was already sooo long.
Keep it p4p (which it is). Don't give her any personal info where she can find you for when you want to disengage. Have a good time.
Damn right you did stud about $600 worth
600 at this club is an average night. I gave her the chance for a good night. She chose to stay. Maybe she's just great at her job, but when you're out of money, 99 stripper out of 100 move on. Maybe she was that 1/100. I dont know. ;)
I do the same thang stud but I pay $0.00 when i give that option and bitches still stay wit me.
Also rick only pays $150 at the table and 35% of his bitches stay
Have you not read the system by rickyboy ? Go to clubs that are dive bars were the girls are happy to make $600 a month killa
b) you’re playing us
c) what chick worth her salt would let a guy she just met finger her. What chick worth her salt would say she doesn’t mind you having a GF and doesn’t mind you living out of the area and is willing to meet up w/ you by you flying her out to where you’re at – best case scenario is that you may not end up paying her $$$ *directly*; but you will be paying some how
if it wasn’t for the pretty coherent writing; I would think this was one of Juice’s imaginative stories.
Surely that happens. Strippers are sometimes still little girls at heart. they have their crushes and dream of a knight in shining armor to change their life... That's fine. Some don't want men and love their life. It depends on the girl. I'm just trying to recognize if I'm being manipulated or if this is one of those (rare) situations where the girl does like a client.
But as always. Thanks.
Be sure to report back here. We all want to know what happens.
Airline fare, Restaurants, hotels, gifts...man, it would be easy to sink a couple grand easy into this.
Heck, she might just be worth it but not getting played looks a lot like getting played in that scenario.
Best of luck and do report back.
2) have you ever considered that this girl may be a low ball quota kind of girl. You gave $600 beans for little to no work and probably knows not many people there will do that type of dishing or any type of dishing for the rest of the night. Besides maybe as said before she hit her quota. She could be one of those girls who don't want to work after hitting their goal I.e. lazy (debatable but th e point is made). Hou just happened to be a good conversationalist. And now she is gonna try to manipulate you by saying she wants to be friends with benifits but you aren't her sugar daddy, wants you to "talk a good game" to let you buy her shit and eventually in her pantalones. In example, she want to take your money by making it seem like she wants to be your girlfriend. I kind of saw it when she said YOU pay for her flight out there. You barely know the chick and she wants YOU to fly her ass out there. If she was really digging you, she'd pay since she got a job but no woman worth her salt (kudos to papi _chulo) goes THAT hard for a man they just met.
On the other hand, maybe she sees your a big roller on that jigga man level and assumes a plane ticket is nothing for you. She has been quite gwnerous with her time taking time out her day to give casual conversation and sending flirty pics to you. If she talks a good game and she really is digging you,then go on that date while your still in town. And when you go home, talk her into flying to you. Plane tickets ain't cheap for the middle class my brother.
In any case good luck my friend.
If you have the cash and no regrets about parting with that selfsame cash just go for it.
Learn from your experiences and help out others with the knowledge that you've gleaned.
If there is one thing this thread has taught me its that no one has a bloody clue. Many think they do. I think the wisest that responded were unsure and hedged their answers. Nevertheless, I appreciate all answers. It makes makes natural sense though. If I don't know and I experienced it, then how could you? I think with thoughts of the heart, the people in the circle always know more than people outside of the circle. Emotions by there very nature cannot be explained, only felt and later told they were felt, and I genuinely believe they were there for both of us.
There were a few people that stated thoughts to the effect of "what does it matter? If you enjoyed your time with her and she gives you more, money or not it's worth it." You have given me the confidence to keep texting. Thank you.
We had a long conversation today where she opened up after I expressed my concerns. She told me that ideally she would want a few dates to see if we are compatible enough to get into a traditional relationship, but since I'm not in the area and already have a girlfriend, that is off the table. She is not interested in being a fling on the side, and if we get into any relationship, she wants to know the boundaries. So we agreed to talk and see if a variant of a sugar relationship is appropriate. She does not want any money, only my time and my word that I will cover all expenses to see her at some regular interval. She did make the joke that of course she would not complain if I bought her the "occasional gift, and her favorite jewelry is Tiffany's!" It made me laugh.
I believe her. Whether I am being played the fool or not is now irrelevant as the fantasy is real enough in mind. If I believe it, well that's real enough for me.
Thank you all, and I'll check in again down the road to let everyone know what came of this.
Blind leading the blind my friend. xD
You'll see. :-)
Really, what are the odds that a dancer of exactly your type happens to have a crush on you, and wants to be your friends with benefits even through you already have a girlfriends? Let's make an educated guess.
Let's say, for example, on average you find a dancer of exactly your type every other visit. So the odds are about 1/30. Let's suppose that a dancer genuinely has a crush on a customer once a month, that's a quite generous chance, right? Suppose she works 3 shifts a week, and sees about 50 customers per shift, that means she has a chance of 1/600 to fall in love with a customer. But what are the odds that she does not want your money OTC, and just wants to date you even if you have a girlfriend? I will throw in another odds of 1/10.
So the chance of all these things happen is 1/30*1/600*1/10=1/180,000. That is , on average you should expect to meet 120,000 dancers to have one such occurrence. Not impossible; improbable, indeed.
Without further information, that would be my guess. Maybe you have a lower standard for the "ideal type", or maybe you are supper attractive to dancers or this dancer has a lower standard for crushes, or she has lower morality on dating. That would increase the odds. Make your own adjustments.
Now the positive side. You said you have been clubbing for 13 years. I don't know how often did you go or how many dancers you have met over the years. Suppose that you club every week, and for each time you see 15 new faces. Then over the years you have met 13*52*15=10,140 dancers. I will skip the math, but the chance that the situation happens (at least once) is about 10% over the years. So if you really never have this feeling with any other dancers before, that increases the odds of this being true to 7%. Still low, but I would say within the reasonable range to give it a shot.
It's your call, and you have my best wishes. Just be careful, and keep us update.
@Sketchball: Like others said, it's not impossible, but quite improbable.
Really, what are the odds that a dancer of exactly your type happens to have a crush on you, and wants to be your friends with benefits even through you already have a girlfriends? Let's make an educated guess.
Let's say, for example, on average you find a dancer of exactly your type every other visit. So the odds are about 1/30. Let's suppose that a dancer genuinely has a crush on a customer once a month, that's a quite generous chance, right? Suppose she works 3 shifts a week, and sees about 50 customers per shift, that means she has a chance of 1/600 to fall in love with a customer. But what are the odds that she does not want your money OTC, and just wants to date you even if you have a girlfriend? I will throw in another odds of 1/10.
So the chance of all these things happen is 1/30*1/600*1/10=1/180,000. That is , on average you should expect to meet 180,000 dancers to have one such occurrence. Not impossible; improbable, indeed.
Without further information, that would be my guess. Maybe you have a lower standard for the "ideal type", or maybe you are supper attractive to dancers or this dancer has a lower standard for crushes, or she has lower morality on dating. That would increase the odds. Make your own adjustments.
Now the positive side. You said you have been clubbing for 13 years. I don't know how often did you go or how many dancers you have met over the years. Suppose that you club every week, and for each time you see 15 new faces. Then over the years you have met 13*52*15=10,140 dancers. I will skip the math, but the chance that the situation happens (at least once) is about 7% over the years. So if you really never have this feeling with any other dancers before, that increases the odds of this being true to 7%. Still low, but I would say within the reasonable range to give it a shot.
It's your call, and you have my best wishes. Just be careful, and keep us update.