Suck vs Fuck

jack,

clinton made BJ's NOT sex. Remember?

Not always the case. I can think of 3 that I know that won't suck but will fuck. They can't handle cum in their mouths.

But as been discussed on here before, some dancers think that intercourse is more intimate than giving blow jobs. Same is true for DFK.

In the Bizarro world of strip clubs, I've found no hard, fast rules for anything except that money is King. I've known civie gals who won't suck but not strippers. I know dancers who give BJ but no FS. Whatever happened to sexual liberation?

I know some hoes who'd rather fuck than suck. The condom or dick flesh usually doesn't taste so good and its easier to just take it in the vagina. I guess ztrippers want to hold on to what little dignity theh might "think" they have. Too bad its all an illusion. Of course the other notion could be that they want to keep their pussies as tight as possible so their romantic partner can enjoy the feeling.

have dealt with some women who actually think that a BJ (even bareback) is not sex. selling BJs does not make them a whore. also, they felt that a BJ was not cheating on their SO.

The "Vaginal Intercourse Obsession".

Seems it afflicts some dancers too. ;) ;)

Some girls draw the line at a BJ, some at FS they have every right to do whatever they choose.

I can think of a half dozen civvies who have blown me but wouldn't fuck me unless we were "in a relationship". Doesn't surprise me there are strippers who feel the same.

Not to mention you can get pregnant from a blow job and a lot of people think you can get a disease from them.

It's a bit like some escorts, you can fuck them but can't kiss them on the mouth.

@Jester-I've never met a gal who would suck but not fuck. With my experience, it's the opposite. I know girls who fuck but don't suck. Maybe it's a geographical, age or cultural difference. I know a lot of Latinas that fuck or do anal but don't suck unless you're their boyfriend. Same with many Asian gals. I should also state that this is all civie gal related.

Could be that jestie has been "dating" trannies who don't want to give away the gag and he is only vaguely aware of it.

I don't know, jack. IME if you get a BJ then FS is about guarenteed. OTOH, Ive found some will do FS but no BJ ITC because it is too obvious what they are doing and hard to spot managers and the like coming. I've also found that a kiss means OTC is guarenteed.

@Slick, I'm almost certain it's an age thing. All of these were girls between 19 and 24. I surmise that they started blowing guys at such a young age that they don't see it as meaning anything, it's like making out to them. In most of the cases their decline to fuck was because we "weren't dating" or "weren't serious". Ones who will fuck but won't suck are common imo, some women just have a flat out aversion to blowjobs.

I can see how Dugly would be confused about civilian pussy.

Most wives will fuck and not suck. Dancers will suck and a few will fuck, but I've met a bunch who won't. I agree with Jester it's an age thing. Girls in their 20's and yonger thing nothing of a BJ. Woman in their 30's and 40's don't suck so much but will fuck with a condom. Older than that and BBFS is not uncommon, at least in my experience.

Like others have said, IME its all over the road for both civi's and strippers. I do find that younger girls, civis and stippers alike, do seem to have a much lower bar for oral sex in that many will do that while not wanting to go "all the way."

At the same time, in some club settings moving from the simulated sex of a lap dance to actual sex is much easier to conceal than head. As a result, some girls are more inclined to oblige. While not as common, another reason I've been given for preference vag over oral is stripper horniness. Occasionally, they get turned on and giving head doesn't help that. Of course there are some who are just trying to earn a buck and flat out don't like cocks or condoms in their mouths, but don't have the same aversion to having them elsewhere.

Kissing seems to be the similar, but with a clear difference between strippers and civis. For whatever reason some dancers have no compunction about it at all, while others are completely revolted by the thought. Some of the ones revolted by the thought of a kiss on the cheek will go down on me in a second. This however does seem to be limited to strippers. I've never met a civi who rejected a kiss and offered up a BJ instead. Its also not uncommon to get a kiss but not wind up fucking a civi. It's pretty rare to find a stipper who'll kiss but not do other things - but it does happen though.

As far as the why of any this; fuck if I know. As soon as you step out of the traditional relationship/sexual paradigm all bets are off. Everyone seems to go in their own direction and re-appropriate the emotional associate from certain acts onto others - ie fucking is just business while sucking is part of a deep emotional bond. A few re-associate along other lines - ie have one set of rules work and one for play. Again, this applies to both strippers and civi's - don't forget about the number of blowjobs given for employment advancement of a sort. A few totally disassociate and just don't care.