Geographic Arbitrage

RickyBoy: "I simply love the pricing differences between here and back in the northeast."

Geeez, RickyBoy. Are you not the RICH STUD you constantly try so hard to project to us here that you are? If you were, you would have money to burn, and price would hardly be any kind of a factor. Disappointing...

RickyBoy: "I've been paying Player11 type OTC prices. The bonus, however, is that I am actually doing these things with girls who others would want to fuck. ;)"

Oh, a shot a Payer11. A pretty good one too. Would be totally hilarious from anyone but yourself. See here's the thing. As I've said before Payer11 is just an older, darker, more humorless version of yourself. You two have so much in common. You both think you have accomplished something by devising your various systems for paying hookers for sex and that this is something worth bragging about here on TUSCL. You both also think that paying a hooker for sex is some major accomplishment and shows your triumph in our "capitalist" system. (Needless to say you would be much more triumphant and impressive if you didn't need have to travel to backward parts of the country to get the POP down to something you can afford.)

Love this part too -

"With very little negotiation, I've been paying Player11 type OTC prices."

Hilarious, since he used to call anyone who said they were paying such prices "lying" or "exaagerating". Guess he has to take that one back. Nice to see him slowly waking up to the relating that is all no different than just paying hookers for sex. Doubt he'll ever admit he was way off base about so many things all along, though!

A Detroit buddy recommended Tijuana but I am not interested for safety and the hassle of traveling across the Mexico border.

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@Fraudster: We both know that I neither claimed to be rich nor accused others of lying about their pricing grids. Indeed, I've expressed envy for the guys who routinely get it this cheap. And the rest of that was noise and nonsense. I suppose that he who can't do must make shit up instead. ;)

@samsung: When attractive American girls are fucking and sucking for $120 or less, who needs Tijuana? I went there many years ago and much of it was a drunken blur, but the one thing that always sticks with me was the smell of the place. And that was everything from the general sewer smell in the air to the stench that came off of the street hookers from several yards away. I suppose that if I lived on the west coast then Tijuana might be more enticing, but those who live on the east coast have many cost conscious options right here in the good ol' U S of A. ;)

For many years I travelled all across the USA and used escort services. I consistently found higher quality for less money in Southern cities. Savannah, Atlanta, Montgomery, Charlotte, Myrtle Beach, etc. all offered very good quality escorts for 1/2 of what I've paid in the Northeast. Since I've cut back on the travel I'm paying top dollar for quality OTC. Rick, you've learned another lesson of supply and demand. I see a direct correlation between education and hookers.

TJ does have some shitty sewers. That being said, a $60 girl from Adelita's or Hong Kong will be of better quality than a $60 girl in the States. This is from my experience.

Doesn't matter if you used the word or not, RickyBoy. It's the image you constantly TRU to project. Just because you know you'll get slammed dunked if you explicitly use that word and you'll even grown in a but of false modesty to b doubly safe does not change the fact that, for you, this board is all about trying to project to us what a RICH STUD you are and hoping we will recognize you as such. And I will indeed dig up the quotes you accuse others who claimed they paid lower prices than you of lying (or maybe you used the euphemism "exaggerate" since you are such a sly, diplomatic, cunning fast talker!)

Question though Rick - How do things feel for you now on this board compared to a couple of years ago? A couple of years ago you thought you were light years ahead of us since you had devised your sophisticated TheSystem which allowed you to accomplish the amazingly complex feat of paying hookers, who happened to work in strip clubs for sex. I remember mocking you at the time that it was no big. All you had to do was "just ask" and besides the prices you were paying were too much. You certainly flipped your lid back then, but now you've had to acknowledge all the things you fought so hard against. Yes, you can "just ask" and "yes, you really can get prices that low". See Rick, I don't make things up. It just a mind as up in clouds as yours a few years to get down to earth and see the reality of what I am saying.

Dougster, you're dissecting homeboy with impunity.

I wish you northern boys would just stay the hell out of Dixie. we don't want you down here messin with our wimen. :)

"Dougster, you're dissecting homeboy with impunity."

Nah, he's just making shit up as he goes along. He's been shut in his house for so long that he's had ample time to hone his talents for spinning fantasy yarns with no foundation in reality.

@Fraudster: Neither my views nor my approach have changed one iota and it all works quite well for me. I routinely go into strange cities, with light intel, and generally make things work. Same as it always was, same as it will ever be. Until you have something to share with the group relating your club and dancer experiences other than trite "oh yeah, I did that" statements, all you will be is a Chihuahua who makes a lot of noise but has no real weight. ;)

And my feelings about this board have not changed, except that I'm disappointed that a few clueless retards like you can pound it with several thousand posts in a single year containing endless amounts of nonsense at the expense of good threads and real intel sharing, but clearly that won't change anytime soon. Indeed, I suspect that Founder is not unhappy about this as it generates additional page hits.

"I wish you northern boys would just stay the hell out of Dixie. we don't want you down here messin with our wimen. :)"

LOL shadow. You're just afraid that we'll increase demand and drive up the pricing grid. ;)

RickyBoy: " Indeed, I suspect that Founder is not unhappy about this as it generates additional page hits."

Wow! Another tune you are changing Rick.

Last year you said I was going to "ruin" the board, and you were all melancholic that there was nothing you could do to prevent it (and I know of all things you hate the feeling of powerlessness the most, ooops, 2nd most, teheh...)

However just a while ago someone posted some stats and quotes saying things have never been better for TUSCL traffic wise, and then someone else suggested it might be precisely because there is no moderator, we don't take discussions too seriously, lots of people make silly posts and that it was it took to change your ever ephemeral "mind"?

Just say whatever it is in the moment that plays best to the crowd at the time, right, RickyBoy? Your SalesBoy training/innate pathological lying traits at work? :-)

I have a sweet arbitrage scheme on the boil right now with cheap stranded Alberta crude selling at Brent prices on the east coast via rail tank cars. Unhappily, the spread is fast closing and now barely covers the higher transportation costs. That easy money is over.

How long can this arbitrage with southern sex prices and higher northern incomes continue to exist? My business and investing experience would suggest that this situation is ripe for rationalization but whoever thinks that strippers are rational?

@Fraudster: Making up yet another phantom change in my opinions? LOL. Read more carefully - I believe the word I used was "disappointed" and I do believe that you and the other uber-high post count trolls are ruining the board. The fact that it may benefit founder in some way is not inconsistent with this belief.

@Farmer: It has been this way for a very long time and I don't see it changing soon. Until incomes and costs of living normalize between the north and south, there will be arbitrage opportunities. The guys make less down there, which means that they can pay less, and the girls are willing and able to accept less because their cost of living is far cheaper. Also, most northern guys are not able to take full advantage of it because they are tied to jobs that are geographically based and cannot move without taking a reduction in income.

This topic reminds me of a joke I heard when I lived in Texas:

A yankee travels to San Antonio and visits the Alamo. He sees a hot young Texas girl, walks up to her, and says, "I'll give you $5 to have sex with me." A Texan man overhears this, pulls out his six gun, and shoots the yankee in the head. The Texas girl exclaims, "Oh, thank you, sir, for defending the honor of Texas womanhood." The Texan says, "It wasn't that, miss. I just don't want these damn yankees coming here and jacking up the price."

What about cheap as northern Detroit ?

I was PMing with a fellow TUSCLer not too long ago about the subject of TJ.

He mentioned some things that got me to think a bit about the TJ thing – he said:

1. he is not too enthused about being with a girl whom may get poked 10 times a day

2. he is not too enthused about being w/ a girl whom may be being forced by a pimp or crime syndicate to be doing what she is doing

I think he makes valid points. Not that this may be the case with all, or most, women in TJ; but it’s probably more likely than w/ US girls?

RickyBoy: "I do believe that you and the other uber-high post count trolls are ruining the board."

And now you are even backing off your claim I was the only one responsible for "ruining" the board, and anyone who seemed to be was just me posting under another alias.

Rick, this is completely comical how you cannot keep your story straight across posts, shift your statement to pla ly best to the audience at any particular moment while completely disregarding everything you said before and hoping nobody will notice!

I'm guessing "Right to Work" laws push the whole pay scale for everyone down in the South. It will be at least ten years I'd say before those laws go away.

Arbitrage plays, by definition, are risk free ways to make money in the market when certain mathematical conditions come into play. They usuall don't last long for obvious reasons - I.e. easy risk free money is something people tend to notice and grab all they can rather quickly. Usually when I think I've found one, I consider more carefully and it turns out it is not if there is more risk than you thought at first glance.

Fraudster, for any avoidance of doubt, I do think that you are a significant contributor to the deterioration of this board and have done so using multiple screen names. Unfortunately, since I first raised made those comments, I suspect that a couple of others have followed suit.

Arbitrage is the simultaneous purchase and sale of an asset in order to profit from a difference in the price. The trader profits by exploiting price differences of identical or similar financial instruments, on different markets or in different forms.

The reality is that, in this era of high speed electronic trading, where minute price differences across markets are instantaneously exploited through automated trading algorithms, significant arbitrage opportunities are rare.

Strictly speaking, I used the term improperly in the title, but I took the liberty of doing so in order to make a point about exploiting cheaper p4p prices in southern locales using $$$ earned in wealthier areas.

Or maybe it was just the "couple of others" all along and not me?

Nope, I only post under a single handle "Dougster" but it looks like your side is definitely big on posting under multiple aliases - e.g. Douggster, BigFagJohn, LunchBoxQueen.

"I wish you northern boys would just stay the hell out of Dixie. we don't want you down here messin with our wimen. :)"

Wish granted. I prefer my women to be able to cook something else other than grits for breakfast. And the ability to read is always a plus too.

RickyBoy: "Arbitrage is the simultaneous purchase and sale of an asset in order to profit from a difference in the price. "

It actually a bit broader than that: For example if put/call parity doesn't, if there are differences in spot and futures markets that don't conform to a mathematical relationship, or if and American style put is trading for less than the stock is below the strike price, then there may be arbitrage oppurtinities, although further investigation often shows market liquidity negates this. I do agree with you that they are very rare, however. In any case - bottom line is my definition is better than yours! :-)

Re-read:

The trader profits by exploiting price differences of identical or similar financial instruments, on different markets or in different forms.

Just trying to keep it simple for broad-based consumption dude. ;)

OK motorhead - Just keep that damn vincemichaels up there. :)

It feels almost criminal to get this stuff this cheap. I recently took a girl up on an offer for an hour of OTC for $120. Another girl recently provided full service ITC for $100 plus the cost of the LDs. And we are talking about some attractive girls here.

I'm gonna' get spoiled in a hurry. ;)

Ok, Rick, add in the risk-free part and this will be one of those 1 in a 100 times you and I actually agree on something! :-)

rick, I totally agree it's really awesome that even without traveling to a third world country, certain parts of the USA have pretty cheap p4p rates. Even in Pittsburgh which I visited earlier this year, which is probably more on the expensive side compared to some cities, it's much better than say NYC.

I do have to disagree with you about Tijuana though. Here's what I'll have to offer:

• If you are concerned about cleanliness, I do somewhat agree that some of the girls don't really care as much as they should sometimes either and the city as a whole is somewhat of a dump. HOWEVER, a lot of the big, newly renovated clubs are actually really nice. The hotel rooms in places like Cascadas aren't bad at all, and Pueblo Amigo or Ticuan (where you can bring escorts) are actually quite nice.

• Most of the bar girls that I take up (which you can do for as low ~$60) don't have a problem with showering before + after the session, especially if you personally insist on it. I've even encountered some girls who insist on it themselves. Plus, they tend to smell pretty nice anyway. I've taken a liking to some of the "spanish" perfumes they use.

• For the cleanest experience, escorts are of course the best. And while the hourly rate starts at about $120 usually, it's a guarantee GFE session with BBBJ, etc. Sometimes CIM too. You can also have the girl for the whole night (8 hours) for around $350 with most agencies. Some of the girls are SUPER sexy and really know how to fuck. I've had sex with plenty of girls in the good 'ole of US of A, but my best sex has definitely been in Tijuana.

• It's really awesome to hang out in the clubs with the girls. I don't know, I guess I'm a young guy that's into the really cool house music they're dropping in Mexico (better than what they play in the US, too). It has a cool latin vibe to it, and the girls really get into it. I'll frequently dance with the girls in the club and we'll hook up there first. They'll feel up my crotch area and I'll go ahead and take them up to fuck, hehe.

All in all, what TJ provides is a really cool environment to have lots of fun. It's not just about the sex for me, the girls are really energetic and when you find the right ones, they really really try very hard to please. There's a level of respect for men that is present in other countries that doesn't really exist quite as much in the US. Sure, I may be technically considered a gringo down there, but I know the scene well, and I can speak Spanish relatively well - so the girls won't generally try to rip me off either.

If I was to take a trip solely for sex, Tijuana would certainly rank among the top for places to go for me. Even if in the south I can get sex for cheap rates like you said, Tijuana is a guaranteed, sure thing with a HUGE selection of girls all over the place. Sometimes I even have luck with civie girls in the regular night clubs there. You can go there and get bottle service for the equivalent of like $70-80 in the "nicest" club, and girls will easily come over to your table. Some dudes take girls from clubs like Hong Kong while they're off shift, bring them to a regular night club, and use them to attract more girls to their table :) Makes for some nice multi-girl sessions, if you know what I mean!

I cannot replicate the fun I have in TJ in the USA, no matter how hard I try.

Lol...mo head and shadow