Every time I think I've heard it all, I'm wrong. I got a call from my ATF crying for money. She was bawling because she lost $1000 which her mother gave her for rent. Or maybe her boyfriend took it. She's not sure. Well I've heard all this stripper shit a hundred times. I said why don't you go to work and earn a couple of hundred rather than call me? I can't work because I have hemmeroids! She was bawling when she should have been balling. I sent her a hundred just for creativity.
Ya know those 2" long sample tubes of tooth paste that you get at the dentist's office? Well one day my hemorrhoids flared up and I reached for the preparation H. You have lived until you have put tooth paste on burning hemorrhoids. :)
The stripper bs never stops! I had one call me yesterday saying that she wanted me to pay her cell phone bill. I asked for her to meet me for OTC. She said that she would as soon as she got back from a Florida vacation. Money for vacation but can't pay her cell bill? I didn't pay it, but Im sure another PL fell for it. Another one bites the dust until rent's due!
The stripper bs never stops! I had one call me yesterday saying that she wanted me to pay her cell phone bill. I asked for her to meet me for OTC. She said that she would as soon as she got back from a Florida vacation. Money for vacation but can't pay her cell bill? I didn't pay it, but Im sure another PL fell for it. Another one bites the dust until rent's due!
"She was bawling because she lost $1000 which her mother gave her for rent. Or maybe her boyfriend took it. She's not sure."
That sounds familiar. My old ATF used to lose her money frequently. She would be so drunk that she didn't know what had happened to it. I realize, now that it's too late, that I could have scammed her and told her I had paid her when I hadn't. She never would have known.
Creativity? Really? How about because you're giving her some money so she'd continue to string you along by the nose and not move on to some other loser who is will give her even more money. Nothing to be proud of dude.
No, it's not only money. It's pride. I'm continually amazed at how guys so proudly announce how they snap to attention when these girls feed them a line of BS, and these girls string them along like wimpering, sniveling little girls.
I dunno, maybe I have a very different view of how men should behave...y'know, honor and respect and pride....
But yeah, if you ain't got any of that, it's only money I suppose.
Yes, I've given strippers, including my former SB, money without immediately receiving service. I'm perfectly capable of evaluating the risk versus reward in a given situation, so sometimes it *is* worth it for me. For those who've never fucked a really tight, willing, responsive pussy bareback (another risk versus reward situation), maybe it is *not* ever worth it, I don't know.
@dalex yes. I only become the regular of girls who know the value of regulars. Having regulars is a big part of their money-making strategy. They are not going to burn me for a couple hundred bucks and thus lose out on making more than that off me every month.
@PC I don't understand your comment. Almost all of us get use to the way we earn money. All of us are dependent on our way of getting money. Even if a stripper managed to have all-polite custies, she still has to deal with a large percentage of society thinking she's subhuman. Don't know why you'd compare people doing a hard job with people with no job.
Although I did not explicitly post it that way, my comment was meant in the context of the OP w.r.t. dancers who will lie and use deceit to get what they want; i.e. $$$. Once they get used to lying to, an manipulating, their regulars, it often becomes a pattern and often escalates IME.
I have no problem with dancers being fairly compensated for a fair delivery of services.
Jerikson - You really seem hung up on being a manly man. If you don't think I have any pride because I send $100 to a lying stripper, then you're very wrong. I think you're confusing pride and masculinity with cunning and planning. I've been seeing this dancer for years and I let her play me just so far and then I reel her in. I posted this as a continuation of other threads regarding the stripper shit which we all hear from time to time. If you're too "manly" to laugh at yourself occasionally, then I feel badly for you. I'm not rich but I live comfortably and I don't have to worry too much about $100. Too bad if you do.
^ seconded. I think that Gawker's "pathetic" (that isn't the right word) behavior comes from a place of genuine care for his ATF. As he stated, they've had a relationship of some kind for years and I'm sure he's getting whatever it is he wants/needs out of it. I mean, hemorrhoids are probably the least sexy thing that I can think of and he's still out there on the front lines with this girl. You aren't a PL, Gawker, you're just a person. Having a sexual relationship with someone for a couple of YEARS is bound to result in some real feelings somewhere eventually.
Thanks Duo and Alucard. As I've said before, I've got no gripe with anyone on this site and everyone is welcome to have an opinion. If Jerickson sees things differently than I that's his prerogative. But I retain the right to disagree. And, Duo, having a relationship which includes sex is even better.
Gawker, you ATF looks like the typical escort at the better agencies in my area (slim and pretty). They ask for $250 - $300 per date. If she asks you for less than that, then you should not feel taken advantage of if she asks for a "big tip" when she has the occasional crisis.
You KNOW that she's lying to you, or at least giving you a line of shit. You yourself call it that same old "stripper shit" you've heard hundreds of times. And clearly you think she's just looking for excuses to not work for the money.
But still, you guys trot out the "oh, after years of a relationship there must be feelings" crap, and think you're justified because A. You think she's real hot, and B. You're just being real cunning in giving her money she doesn't need.
So if she cares for you at all, why would she lie to you and try to extract money from you for something she didn't do? Is there any respect for you at all? Apparently not.
My mind is officially blown.
So let us know when you decide to "reel her in", and how much THAT will cost you, you sly fox....
When she gossips with her friends about the douchebag who keeps feeding her money and what a loser he is, at what point does she show those true 'feelings' for him?
@Jerkison gawker's not bragging. He's just trying to entertain us a little with a funny true-life anecdote. If you really have to try to imagine all the details of someone's personal business (that you don't know), why not image good stuff? Assume that gawker and his ATF have a win-win arrangement, and each feel they are getting a lot in return for what they give to each other.
If you think I'm a douche bag, I honestly will not loose sleep over it. In fact, the more you write, the more I take it as a compliment. You see, I used escorts all over the country for about ten years and I was able to enjoy sex with some very beautiful women. However I knew none of them. Now sex with a stranger isn't all bad, but no matter how you slice it, it is impersonal. I'd sit in my hotel room after an escort and I'd be sexually sated, but still lonely. When I met my ATF I did LD's and VIP rooms with her and we learned to know each other. She also is my vision of beauty. She is far from perfect as am I. We fit together like a glove on O.J.'s hand. We are compatable. Now going into this I knew she makes her money through dancing, offering extras to those she chooses to, and by selling sex to certain customers.. She has been as honest and upfront with me as I could reasonably expect.
If she calls with some cock & bull story it's because she needs the money. It's probably for something I wouldn't like but I have no right to tell her how to spend her money, even if its a gift from me or payment for future visits. Her boyfriend and father of her child knows she meets guys for money. He doesn't want her to see me because as he put it, "she has feelings for me". I'm honored and pleased by that.
Now if you think a real man would never be in this situation, I disagree. I think a male who fucks them and blows them off isn't much of a man at all. I know she cares and that's enough for me.
@gawker The big moral dilemma comes in if the boyfriend is being a true father to her child. You have to think about how your involvement with this woman is affecting the kid, an non-adult who does not have the choice of just walking away from it. Obviously your money is a positive in the child's life, but that has to be weighed against the risk of breaking up a currently two-parent family.
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You put up with way more shit than I ever would.
That sounds familiar. My old ATF used to lose her money frequently. She would be so drunk that she didn't know what had happened to it. I realize, now that it's too late, that I could have scammed her and told her I had paid her when I hadn't. She never would have known.
Creativity? Really? How about because you're giving her some money so she'd continue to string you along by the nose and not move on to some other loser who is will give her even more money. Nothing to be proud of dude.
I dunno, maybe I have a very different view of how men should behave...y'know, honor and respect and pride....
But yeah, if you ain't got any of that, it's only money I suppose.
"How to be a Real Man: Hosted by Jerkoffson40 from TUSCL"
be held? Also what will the price be, and will those PLs who are especially "sniveling" get discounts due to compassionate/humanitarian reasons?
I have no problem with dancers being fairly compensated for a fair delivery of services.
This.
You KNOW that she's lying to you, or at least giving you a line of shit. You yourself call it that same old "stripper shit" you've heard hundreds of times. And clearly you think she's just looking for excuses to not work for the money.
But still, you guys trot out the "oh, after years of a relationship there must be feelings" crap, and think you're justified because A. You think she's real hot, and B. You're just being real cunning in giving her money she doesn't need.
So if she cares for you at all, why would she lie to you and try to extract money from you for something she didn't do? Is there any respect for you at all? Apparently not.
My mind is officially blown.
So let us know when you decide to "reel her in", and how much THAT will cost you, you sly fox....
When she gossips with her friends about the douchebag who keeps feeding her money and what a loser he is, at what point does she show those true 'feelings' for him?
If she calls with some cock & bull story it's because she needs the money. It's probably for something I wouldn't like but I have no right to tell her how to spend her money, even if its a gift from me or payment for future visits. Her boyfriend and father of her child knows she meets guys for money. He doesn't want her to see me because as he put it, "she has feelings for me". I'm honored and pleased by that.
Now if you think a real man would never be in this situation, I disagree. I think a male who fucks them and blows them off isn't much of a man at all. I know she cares and that's enough for me.
"I think a male who fucks them and blows them off isn't much of a man at all"
You have that nailed Sir. Unfortunately the misogynistic Assholes here will DISAGREE and probably attack your opinion & my support of you.
NOT our job.