Bouncers Expecting Tips
azdd
On the prowl in Tucson and Phoenix
The Hi-Liter in Phoenix has this annoying practice where a bouncer walks you to a seat, and expects to be tipped. Unless they actually do something to get me a better seat, I don't usually tip them. Last week I made several stops at the HL, and each time the club had plenty of empty seats on the LD wall, but the bouncers continued to walk me to my seat. One of these guys walked me in to choose from maybe a dozen empty wall seats and asked me if I needed anything. I said, "no thanks, I'm good", and sat down without tipping him. He huffed off and said as he walked away "Of course you are", obviously pissed that I didn't see the need to tip him for walking with me about 50 feet to a row of empty chairs.
I think this practice is stupid, and this is the only club in Phoenix that does this. Who else has to deal with this? Do you tip for such a meaningless gesture? I'm particularly interested in what the other HL regulars think of this.
I think this practice is stupid, and this is the only club in Phoenix that does this. Who else has to deal with this? Do you tip for such a meaningless gesture? I'm particularly interested in what the other HL regulars think of this.
22 comments
Waitresses are different. They provide a personal service and are paid less than minimum wage. They deserve to be tipped.
It has paid off over time too, sometimes that guy counting dances one day is the doorman another. Every now and then it means no cover, not opening the door to the VIP when the time is up, or looking in on a LD.
Sometimes it helps to grease the wheels, just make sure its the right wheel.
There is a club in MN called Fat Jacks where VIP room is bed dances. But they have such strict rules there the customer is not allowed to touch the dancer at all, zero. So I went VIP with a chick, and the bouncer literally sit in a chair 3 feet from the bed and watched the entire time. If I even moved my arms a little he would make a comment about no touching. Then at the end the stripper whispers to me I should tip him something. I told her if he needs money so bad she can tip him some of the tip I gave her. I've been to that club many times and I've never gone back to VIP again there. Every time a stripper tries to get me back there I tell her it isn't worth it and I buy VIP costs worth of couch dances on the main floor instead. Still can't touch her but at least Brutus isn't 3 feet away staring at us.
I agree with what Jackslash said to a degree. I don't automatically leave tip for wiatress. However, all they have to do is be competent and pleasant and I will leave a minimum of 10%. Do a good job and the tip goes up. If they are grumpy, unfriendly, or screw things up big I'm not paying for that though. If a barber screwed up your haircut would you still tip?
And damn! I went to one of those "deluxe" chinese buffet the other day that also has a sushi counter and hibachi. There was a tip jar at the hibachi. There was a tip jar at the sushi counter. It already cost 15 bucks to get in. This is for mediocre 'chinese' food, not fine dining. And I'm supposed to leave tips at each station too, and for the girl that brings me a soda and takes away my dishes? FUCK that!
BAN OBAMA!!!
BAN THE POOR!!!
The latest trend I have observed is that many dancers now give sub par floor dances and try to upsell to VIP to get the same dance you used to get on the floor.
Most important, though, is the need to take care of the guy who is going to pretend that the girl is not back there giving you a BJ. It is downright dumb to let hundreds go to waste simply because you feel that it is unjust to be shaken down for another $10 or $20 for the bouncer/VIP manager/CR host (or whatever the fuck he is called at your favorite HM club).
reminds me of this:
Q: How can you tell if you're in a classy place?
A: You have to wear your baseball cap facing *forward!*
And that actually makes sense to you?
Really?
Her employer doesn't pay her enough, so you and I should compensate for an asshole employer. Right...yeah...okay......
Good lord people. Tipping is a very simple concept, but people make it into this insane, complicated emotional ridiculousness.
If you think someone has gone above and beyond the call of duty, then maybe consider giving them a tip if you want.
That's it.
Nobody deserves it. Anyone who thinks they are entitled to a tip, especially for just doing their job, has got serious mental problems. And that includes 95% of all strippers working in clubs today. They have this weird entitlement mentality.
But most guys are little pussies, and if a stripper EXPECTS a tip they cave in and tip her whatever she wants. And if a bouncer will give you a hard time if you DON'T tip, and maybe not let you get away with stuff in the VIP, the pussies here will cave in. Geezus. Grow some balls. People expect tips because assholes like you COMPLY and pay them tips they don't deserve.