Ran into potential ATF OTC ... with her boyfriend

Dang bro, it's a harsh way to learn the lesson, but at the end of the day that's how it works. Usually the more money you spend in the club the LESS likely it is the girl will see you as someone they'd actually date OTC. You are in the customer 'zone' of sorts at that point. Don't spend money in VIP rooms in hopes of something happening outside. Only spend money in VIP rooms for stuff that actually happens in those rooms, so you can walk away happy regardless of whether there is OTC or not.

Of course, if your goal was to just pay for play OTC, and not to date her, spending money in VIP is still bad because it shows you value her time so much in the club even when there is no sex involved. Why should she see you outside?

Every stripper has a boyfriend or husband. How long does a beautiful girl have to go without a man? But that doesn't mean she won't do OTC. My ATF lives with a boyfriend who is younger, taller and better looking than me. But I fuck her once or twice a week.

mas0n, he may have smirked on the outside but inside that head of his he was thinking "is she fucking this guy?"

How do you know his nice attire and well off appearance weren't all the product of having a stripper gf with cash rolling in? She'll get tired of him eventually, or the lack of trust between them will cause problems. You aren't out of the game. Offer her a little more...what do you think sack time with her is worth? If she keeps shutting you down or eventually won't dance for you anymore you aren't really losing anything. You're in a no lose situation here now.

It is true that most strippers have "boyfriends", but that don't mean shit. I've fucked some strippers that had boyfriends at the time, but it was no big deal to the strippers. Go for it, you got nothing to lose. I know you said you weren't getting extras in VIP, but what were you getting in the VIP (kissing, sucking on titties, fingering her pussy, DATY)?

Ranukam - Actually none of that in VIP, the most I got was getting to feel on her tits. She gave a good dance, though, and I'd usually end up busting in my pants from the friction/dirty talking.

Experimental - Something tells me that's not the case, the event was a company party for an advertising firm that he works for (that I was invited to for the work I do for them).

It was just an awkward situation that I've never encountered before and thought I'd share. Most likely I'll continue getting dances from her, but look for another OTC prospect.

All boyfriend has to do is a couple bad words and subtle championing of your competition ... you got no money and he got no worries. Advertising firm? Definitely a backstabbing game player - the meme of that industry is to play with people.

Should have congratulated him for have such a good looking Stripper as a GF! LOL

It depends on the circumstance of course, but I would never approach a dancer outside a club if she's with a BF or group of friends, and I hope they extend the same courtesy to me. I've seen a few regulars out and about, and I just try to make eye contact and smile. Once I was on a Southwest flight that included my ATF and her husband. We had seen each other in the gate area, but I didn't approach her. On SW you get to choose your own seat, and when I boarded, the aisle seat next to her was empty! She was in the middle, hubby at the window. I considered it for about two seconds, and decided to pass up the seat. That would have been awkward indeed!

Should have sat down and asked what she did for a living. You know, small talk.

Yea I don't think I would have went up to her with her BF. Maybe I would have waived or something and laughed about it next time I was at the club. You never know who actually knows she strips. But I agree with what everybody else said a stripper having a BF means nothing.

If she's truly been "stonewalling" you, you should probably take the hint and move on. It's usually not gonna happen. She might change her mind if you stop spending money on her in the club, but if her BF is really a highly paid ad guy, she doesn't need the money, she's stripping as a lark, or to build a nest egg, or because she gets off teasing guys, or some other reason that really means "I don't need your money; there'll be another PL along in a minute after you leave."

Any dancer who does not do anything extra inside the club VIP room is not going to do OTC ever. In addition any dancer willing to do OTC will drop a hint to that regard with only the most minimal suggestion.

If your real goal is OTC why not just go straight to the escorts and avoid the nonsense?

I think georg has a good post there. I'm also wondering, @TlkDo is waiving her slang for ignore? lol

Mas0n, have you been my customer before? I had danced in the both PMs in RVa, and you sound like a regular I had in summer of 2011.

There are escorts who are 10s. They charge 400 - 600 per hour depending on where you live. You will waste a lot of money at first, because of fake pictures. After you find a few with real pictures, no more wasted money. There also many escorts who are 8s who charge under 300 per hour.

I never had a fav who's dances got better. They get lazy, you have to threaten to stop just to keep the dances from getting lamer.

JayJaydancer - Knowing absolutely nothing about you other than your handle: I don't think so? I don't know if how dashing and debonaire I am translates well over the internet so you may have me confused with someone else!