Need help from you vets
kingknight
Virginia
I have been at this hobby for a full year now, and have seen some highs and lows. Lately I am encountering an issue particularly in the Detroit area clubs which has me frustrated.... too much cockblocking by customers, and to a lesser extent other dancers.
The Detroit clubs are quite busy compared to other clubs I frequent in Cali, or Tx. Less of an issue in Vegas, as there is more than enough candy for everyone. But the upscale Detroit clubs are busy enough any day I go (2 to 1, or 3 to 1 PL to dancer ratio). In any given club outside of Vegas, I would say that my type is about 20% or less of the girls. I get approached by the remaining 80%, as the 20% are hogged by others.
What can I do to get with the girls im interested in? One idea I had is to go early in the night. I spend freely so im sure if the hot ones ever come my way, they will be happy. If I stay late, that seems to work as well as the crowd dissipates.... but I always keep in my mind the 2am witching hour (thanks Shadow). Also, im not gonna try to pull a girl away from a PL, dont need the drama.
Any thoughts?
The Detroit clubs are quite busy compared to other clubs I frequent in Cali, or Tx. Less of an issue in Vegas, as there is more than enough candy for everyone. But the upscale Detroit clubs are busy enough any day I go (2 to 1, or 3 to 1 PL to dancer ratio). In any given club outside of Vegas, I would say that my type is about 20% or less of the girls. I get approached by the remaining 80%, as the 20% are hogged by others.
What can I do to get with the girls im interested in? One idea I had is to go early in the night. I spend freely so im sure if the hot ones ever come my way, they will be happy. If I stay late, that seems to work as well as the crowd dissipates.... but I always keep in my mind the 2am witching hour (thanks Shadow). Also, im not gonna try to pull a girl away from a PL, dont need the drama.
Any thoughts?
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2. Try tipping a "NICE" amount at the stage to get her atention
3. Acquire & cultivate an ATF so you are occupying the dancer's time instead of someone else
4. Find a slower club
I may try a slower club. What do you suggest? I frequent PHC, FC, and the Landing Strip.
I don’t even bother SCing on weekend evenings anymore.
In fact, although Monday nights may be considered “bad nights†in terms of talent – personally my last couple of Mo. night visits were more enjoyable than previous weekend eve visits – mainly due to more dancer availability and QOS from the dancers.
Depends if you are looking for sex or not. Give Subi's a shot. Maybe Landing Strip.
-Alucard hit it well when he mentioned going in the dayshift and tipping well while on stage. Kudos for that. Dayshifts tend to be slightly slower, but help us (the providers) to give you better attention.
-You haven't been specific with "your type". Please, comment more on that. Ways for you to avoid cockblocking: learn to say no to dancers, we don't take it personal because it's impossible for us to be liked by 100% of the customers. Try to stick to your type, you'll save a lot of time and energy to dancers that aren't your type.
The perfect LD for the least amount of money is the goal.
A big part of the hobbby is the hunt!
JJ - avoided listing my type as did not want to debate what type of dancer is hot or not. To each his own. My type is tattoo free (mostly), and playboy bunny variety. I have become more direct in recent outings, and have let dancers know that I dont want them to sit, cut them off before their pitch.... most have taken it ok, though the negativity is wearing in me.
Techman - good sound advice, will use that approach next time about ready for a dance. A trial dance is cheaper than the wasted time. Agree, love the hunt!
Become a 'regular'. That means more than just frequency of visits and tons of money. Take time to get to chat up the barkeep, the doorman, the DJ, the manager etc. and get to know them as people and vice-versa. Then perhaps have a conversation like this 'Bunny looks like she might be a lot of fun in a private dance, but she seems to be never free.' Your very own on-staff wingman!
Having gotten access via the prior technique see if you can get a number to text the dancer at. Then text her as to when she will be coming in to the club. When she answers ask 'If I am already there can you....' Note that you will want to include a selfie so she will recognize you. Now you're the cockblocker!
You should also know that some customers will pay the dancers to sit and keep them company. I asked one dancer at the Flight Club (Inkster, MI) for a private dance when she finished her stage routine and she told me that she'd have to get permission to leave the customer who was paying her (and two other peelers) for their company. By "company," I mean they were sitting at a booth in the club and drinking and laughing. She did get permission to provide a private dance for me and I asked her about the arrangement-- she was pocketing 100/hour just for sitting with the customer.
The other suggestion that has worked for me is to ask a waitress to let the dancer know that you are interested in a private dance.
If you see a dancer who interests you alone or with other dancers, you can walk up and say you'd like a dance whenever she's ready. A few dancers will give you attitude for doing it, but they are the ones who are probably more trouble than they're worth anyway.
I don't like to interact with the floormen. I know many of them are totally cool. But many of them are major, major jerks, and you don't want to do anything to increase your contact with them.