Club policy and OTC
looneylarry
I can see why clubs might not want to compete with any side arrangements and lose some money. But is it really an enforced policy and widespread, or is it some more SS when the dancer doesn't want to see you outside the club but only wants to see your green inside? I do believe that girls will narc on another dancer if they see any ITC activity and it is not an ITC-friendly club. But would they smoke out a girl setting up OTC activity?
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Part of it is SS. However, it is also club policy in many clubs (at least here in Texas) that dancers cannot leave the club with customers or even be seen leaving the club with someone because this results in termination.
Remember the clubs are under LE scrutiny, so they have strict rules about hookups or even the appearance of hookups.
My friends and I, we literally have to sneak out at separate times if we want a "date".
Look at the glossary of terms section of the site. Very helpful. The glossary link is right at the bottom of the page.
In my former regular club when I had gotten to know some of the non-dancer staff, this was technically a stated club policy. However, IMO, it seems virtually impossible to enforce to any degree of reliability if OTC is setup discretely and she doesn't walk out of the club with you.
So, I have come to the conclusion that this is SS that management plays along with because the don't want heat from LE and the want to help give dancers a way to deflect creeps.
If KS is your stomping ground, then you may need to change up your game. That is one difficult fucking place to casually source OTC. In some areas, being a business traveler can give on a leg up in the hunt, but it definitely worked against me in KS, as it has in places like AL and AR. Those clubs are highly geared towards regulars and I doubt that anyone is getting a girl out of one of those clubs before he has visited her at least a few times.
In any event, good luck.
I have also noticed how the staff flips out when you try to write anything down on a napkin. And how other dancers listen in when you talk to girls after lappers are over. My ATF embellished by saying she had her phone taken and smashed. Yeah, that was pure SS.
I find that the clubs in KS, including Lawrence, Topeka and your favorite little club in Olathe, have this weird mix of newbie dancers and semi-retired seasoned vets who have come home after working in higher profile areas. The newbies tend to be very green and the seasoned vets came back in order to escape the issues inherent in clubs in higher profile areas. I clubbed in KS a few months back and couldn't wait to gtfo.
Now having said that, I am sure that you could eventually find OTC with enough time and patience, but it would involve targeting the right type of dancer, getting her on your tit for a little bit and then coaxing her OTC. You might want to do your fishing in one of the larger clubs, like Baby Dolls, Topeka Sports Cabaret or the Dirty Bird. ;) I doubt that anyone is sourcing much of anything out of a little crap hole like Bonita Flats.
In any event, good luck.
When I was in Paris last year, the Paris Hustler Club had very restrictive rules about OTC. Basically, if you even asked about OTC, you would be thrown out. The old sexy, sinful Paris is dead.
You know, it just occurred to me to wonder about guys getting lapdances from her on those nights, since we started barebacking *before* she quit...
Case in point - went to club where I am ViP on sat afternoon. Chelsea who I had fucked itc back in mar for 200 was dancing (21 yo brunette, nice bod). I tipped her $2 and took 2 dances at 40 in cr. She then tried to offer FS at 200 and I told her I was just there for a few dances (I have 4 other girls on roster 1x stripper and 3 SA gals at 100-150). She dropped price to 150 and told me I would not have to pay for the dances saying she really needed money and I could fuk her as long as I wanted. I fucked her in CR and it was good. The next day Sunday she told me I could cum over and we could do same. I told her "baby all i have is $120." She said "well come on over anyhow I need money for christmas." I went over and fuked her again in VIP and it was good. She pushed seeing her itc "because u don't have motel cost." The next day monday i got phone calls from the 4 girls on roster wanting to hookup. I fuked the 39 yo at her trailer in Baytown for $100 she came to door in bikini (she is a slim avg looking brunette). That nite i had coin sales of $425 on ebay (helps finance hobbying) and decided to do the 34 yo office mgr for $140 at motel thur. She is like a cute little housewife flat tummy nice tat there (she is separated she says bc of ins money). She will get on top and deep in her it really feels good. She also lives in Baytown but wont meet at the Palace Inn there because "my brother lives near there." On Sat I fucked the married x stripper who danced at the club where I am vip for $150 at a motel in Pasadena. She drove down the beltway from Woodlands area where she lives to meet me. I have been fucking her a little over 4 yr. She excels at hj foreplay and loves to get on top, leaning forward thrusting. She has a nice tight one even being in 3rd marriage and being an extras girl for probably 7 years at SC. By that time i was worn out but 32 yo divorced nursing student from El Salvador wanted to meet the following tuesday. She is a screamer and wore white bikini for me, a real looker. She loves to model and i have taken photos of her. I fuked her for about an hour and she came six times and was exhausted. She finished me with hj which she loved doing. For some reason it is not as easy to get off with her as the others. I gave her $120. She wants me to get motel near where I work for 3 day in row and meet there and fuk every day after she gets out of nursing school at noon. She works 10 hr days rest of week. Her and the trailer gal give best GFE, but the x stripper and 34 yo office mgr are better fucks so go figure.
What about the public thing? If somebody sees the dancer and a guy in Bennigan's, they automatically assume that it is an OTC? It would require a dancer or staff at that club who recognizes the girl as a dancer and a guy as a customer to actually put it together, right? Is "dating" prohibited, too? Is an innocent lunch assumed to be part of an OTC arrangement, subject to the same firing penalty? If so, no wonder they don't want to do it.
Is it just assumed that if they are on a date that they are doing it, too? I suppose that if a dancer is ever seen in a motel parking lot by another dancer or club staff that they will be fired, even without seeing the guy?
If all this is true, then no wonder there is such difficulty and apprehension in setting it up, not only about LE but other dancers, staff, etc.