Club policy and OTC

I believe that what you describe is just SS. If they really want to see you OTC they will do it discreetly. The only rule that is enforced is that when a dancer leaves the club, that is the end of her shift. She cannot come back in again. This keeps the prostitues from just using the club as a pick up joint. Clubs will make exceptions for bonefide emergencies.

Yea that sounds like BS to me. The club probably doesnt want the girl seeing customers OTC but how r they going to know? Not wanting word word to get around that they are seeing a customer is another thing.

you got a bunch of ss

I agree with everyone saying it is SS.

Larry:

Part of it is SS. However, it is also club policy in many clubs (at least here in Texas) that dancers cannot leave the club with customers or even be seen leaving the club with someone because this results in termination.

Remember the clubs are under LE scrutiny, so they have strict rules about hookups or even the appearance of hookups.

My friends and I, we literally have to sneak out at separate times if we want a "date".

A lot of clubs enforce that pretty strictly. They'll fire a dancer who is seen outside of the club with a customer.

Ok i'm lost folks. I know what BS is what the hell is SS? I thought that was typo until I saw multiple people say it.

SS = Stripper Shit.

Look at the glossary of terms section of the site. Very helpful. The glossary link is right at the bottom of the page.

Stripper Shit = SS

Pure SS.

Pure stripper shit. I had a couple strippers give their email out instead and that works well if their phones also have email. Typically at upscale clubs the dancers make good money and don't give their numbers out because they don't want to be bothered except for their high rollers. At low end clubs the dancers are too broke to have their own phones... Don't waste energy getting numbers. Plenty of escort numbers available online.

Oh ok SS makes sense now...LOL!

I've always gotten the "club doesn't allow them to see anybody outside of the club" line or some variation of it.

In my former regular club when I had gotten to know some of the non-dancer staff, this was technically a stated club policy. However, IMO, it seems virtually impossible to enforce to any degree of reliability if OTC is setup discretely and she doesn't walk out of the club with you.

So, I have come to the conclusion that this is SS that management plays along with because the don't want heat from LE and the want to help give dancers a way to deflect creeps.

what if I happen to hook up with them for pure romantic, non business (meaning no sex for cash) reasons? Would the stripper still get scrutinized?

Definitely SS. As others have said, if she really wanted to she would have. It is not as if the girls that DO go OTC are asking for permission first. ;)

If KS is your stomping ground, then you may need to change up your game. That is one difficult fucking place to casually source OTC. In some areas, being a business traveler can give on a leg up in the hunt, but it definitely worked against me in KS, as it has in places like AL and AR. Those clubs are highly geared towards regulars and I doubt that anyone is getting a girl out of one of those clubs before he has visited her at least a few times.

In any event, good luck.

Since virtually every club I've ever been in has had an explicit or implicit rule against fucking customers illegally, irrespective of the location, I'd say it's not complete SS. To the extent that that particular girl ignores such a rule, it could be construed as SS.

Her boyfriend or husband (or both) have rules against you putting your dick in his pussy.

GMD, it's SS in that her primary reason for not doing whatever has nothing to do with what the club says she can't.

Mea culpa. I don't really have game to step up. All I had going for me was frequent visits and I was probably considered a regular. That got me into the ballgame, but that was it. The clubs here are not extras friendly, so you have to make do with what you can. I do know that any ITC action is always under the microscope and the girls are always bitching about other dancers and what they think they are doing (whether they are or not).

I have also noticed how the staff flips out when you try to write anything down on a napkin. And how other dancers listen in when you talk to girls after lappers are over. My ATF embellished by saying she had her phone taken and smashed. Yeah, that was pure SS.

Unless the club is somehow getting a cut on the action I doubt any club will condone OTC any more than any other business would allow their employees to moonlight for the competition! But unless these dancers are in some sort of human trafficking thing where they are being held in prison-like conditions when not working there is not any way for anybody to know. So I think that it is SS.

Looney, you have the worst possible mix of circumstances as you are in an area where the cost of living is very low, which makes the dancers less motivated to earn, and culturally very conservative, which makes dancers scared to be caught. That is not a great environment for OTC action.

I find that the clubs in KS, including Lawrence, Topeka and your favorite little club in Olathe, have this weird mix of newbie dancers and semi-retired seasoned vets who have come home after working in higher profile areas. The newbies tend to be very green and the seasoned vets came back in order to escape the issues inherent in clubs in higher profile areas. I clubbed in KS a few months back and couldn't wait to gtfo.

Now having said that, I am sure that you could eventually find OTC with enough time and patience, but it would involve targeting the right type of dancer, getting her on your tit for a little bit and then coaxing her OTC. You might want to do your fishing in one of the larger clubs, like Baby Dolls, Topeka Sports Cabaret or the Dirty Bird. ;) I doubt that anyone is sourcing much of anything out of a little crap hole like Bonita Flats.

In any event, good luck.

whatever excuses they give are SS, but every club I know about has a policy about not meeting customers outside the club. I think that all that really means is don't leave with the customers. I don't know what they can really do if they see you at the local restaurant with a customer. How do they know it's really a customer?

Of course every club has that policy, be what is SS is the fact that this is what is really stopping her. If she was inclined to do OTC, then she would do it - as do many others in clubs all over the country.

The Detroit clubs I frequent do not have any policy on OTC, and dancers freely give out their numbers and emails if they are OTC-friendly. I've never heard a girl refuse OTC because the club doesn't allow it.

When I was in Paris last year, the Paris Hustler Club had very restrictive rules about OTC. Basically, if you even asked about OTC, you would be thrown out. The old sexy, sinful Paris is dead.

Interestingly enough, I pulled into a local club a few weeks ago and saw an older white guy dropping off a hotter AA girl in his family minivan. I don't think that he was her Girl Scout leader. So, maybe the OTC needs to happen before the club hours, eh?

@larry, for about the last six months before she quit, that's the way my SB and I did things. I'd meet her a couple of hours before she went to work.

You know, it just occurred to me to wonder about guys getting lapdances from her on those nights, since we started barebacking *before* she quit...

Did the AA girl do OTC BB?

Girls who play will want to play right then or next day if otc. If your getting excuses then that is ss from girls who don't play.

Case in point - went to club where I am ViP on sat afternoon. Chelsea who I had fucked itc back in mar for 200 was dancing (21 yo brunette, nice bod). I tipped her $2 and took 2 dances at 40 in cr. She then tried to offer FS at 200 and I told her I was just there for a few dances (I have 4 other girls on roster 1x stripper and 3 SA gals at 100-150). She dropped price to 150 and told me I would not have to pay for the dances saying she really needed money and I could fuk her as long as I wanted. I fucked her in CR and it was good. The next day Sunday she told me I could cum over and we could do same. I told her "baby all i have is $120." She said "well come on over anyhow I need money for christmas." I went over and fuked her again in VIP and it was good. She pushed seeing her itc "because u don't have motel cost." The next day monday i got phone calls from the 4 girls on roster wanting to hookup. I fuked the 39 yo at her trailer in Baytown for $100 she came to door in bikini (she is a slim avg looking brunette). That nite i had coin sales of $425 on ebay (helps finance hobbying) and decided to do the 34 yo office mgr for $140 at motel thur. She is like a cute little housewife flat tummy nice tat there (she is separated she says bc of ins money). She will get on top and deep in her it really feels good. She also lives in Baytown but wont meet at the Palace Inn there because "my brother lives near there." On Sat I fucked the married x stripper who danced at the club where I am vip for $150 at a motel in Pasadena. She drove down the beltway from Woodlands area where she lives to meet me. I have been fucking her a little over 4 yr. She excels at hj foreplay and loves to get on top, leaning forward thrusting. She has a nice tight one even being in 3rd marriage and being an extras girl for probably 7 years at SC. By that time i was worn out but 32 yo divorced nursing student from El Salvador wanted to meet the following tuesday. She is a screamer and wore white bikini for me, a real looker. She loves to model and i have taken photos of her. I fuked her for about an hour and she came six times and was exhausted. She finished me with hj which she loved doing. For some reason it is not as easy to get off with her as the others. I gave her $120. She wants me to get motel near where I work for 3 day in row and meet there and fuk every day after she gets out of nursing school at noon. She works 10 hr days rest of week. Her and the trailer gal give best GFE, but the x stripper and 34 yo office mgr are better fucks so go figure.

I would definetly get fired if I was seen leaving the club with a customer or I was seen out in public with a customer.

Stiletto, that raises some good questions: If a dancer leaves early, do the other dancers/staff try to link them up with another customer, trying to figure out which guy that left in the last 10 minutes is the guy she was going to hook up with? Or do they just monitor the parking lot cameras to see if she gets into a guy's car? I suppose if she leaves her car there until 4:00 am or overnight, they will suspect she had an OTC. So it always requires a rendezvous point, away from the club?

What about the public thing? If somebody sees the dancer and a guy in Bennigan's, they automatically assume that it is an OTC? It would require a dancer or staff at that club who recognizes the girl as a dancer and a guy as a customer to actually put it together, right? Is "dating" prohibited, too? Is an innocent lunch assumed to be part of an OTC arrangement, subject to the same firing penalty? If so, no wonder they don't want to do it.

Is it just assumed that if they are on a date that they are doing it, too? I suppose that if a dancer is ever seen in a motel parking lot by another dancer or club staff that they will be fired, even without seeing the guy?

If all this is true, then no wonder there is such difficulty and apprehension in setting it up, not only about LE but other dancers, staff, etc.