Clubs that are liberal with the "extras" action?

Come to Detroit. There are a great many Clubs that allow Sex. Just read the reviews & PM some people.

LOL! Really? Come on... This isn't remotely believable.

Thanks, Alucard. I'll consider, but I prefer to stay within a certain driving distance to & from Chicago. Jester, its true, but based on *your* reaction, it doesn't sound good for me! Are girls who do extras that much of a rarity?? Without going into too much detail, for I have enough female haters around, I've spent the last 5 years doing bachelor parties and wild events with porn stars, so I guess I am "spoiled" now. I just miss the club atmosphere and prefer more one-on-one interaction, but want to make sure its also worth my while. :-)

Arnies in Harvey (south Chicago). Prices may be too cheap for you, however.

I dont know guys it might be legit a stripper/whore could be too stupid to get a login and read a bunch of reviews. and worst case scenario read between the lines. so come on every one lets air our dirty laundry here in the open and tell who gets fucked and where in chi town.

Someone needs to pull the bacon off the stove before they set it on fire.

I believe you. Really I do believe this is a true question from a girl looking for an extras club

Vavoom, from your photo I think you're too good for Chicago clubs. I used to live in Chicago and all the strip clubs sucked.

I would like you to move to Detroit, where we would treat you right. But if you have to stay in the Chicago area, you might consider clubs in northern Indiana.

Yeah, she is VERY hot. I just hope it's not some douchebag guy posting some crap and her photo, trying to get her in trouble.

Personally, otherwise I think she's legit. And Vavoom, you really need to move to LA. There are lots of clubs that allow lots of mileage, and lots of customers (like me) who would appreciate you more that those clowns in Chicago. And it's cold in Chicago. And no beaches, and you can't go skiing and stuff. LA is much better.

Move to somewhere like Anaheim. There are apartments down the street from Flamingo Theater, and that club is all about high mileage. Really. And I'll be the first guy in line to get a lap dance from you. I'll even walk your dog.

Damn girl, you're hot.

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussio…
she might be a legit escort or at least using a picture of one.

Honey you are going about it all wrong.
look at reviews and then PM individual reviewers that is your only way to get the skinny. All else you will just get snarky answers.

As a side note if anybody needs a research analyst or investigator feel free to PM me

Which O'Hare Club did you work at?

I've been to Heavenly Bodies, and the girl said I could touch, but when i put my hand on her butt, she moved it to her back. What? Unbelievable. That club is bullshit. Some nice looking Eastern Euros though.

Thank you very much, guys!

Smokeshop, yep, you got me, lol. Definitely no bacon here ;-). I totally understand your initial skepticism, and thank you for the pointer. I assumed I'd be pm-ed on the subject, same as we do on the TER board and such.

Motörhead, the club was formerly known as "Dreamers." Not quite all the way by Ohare ;-)

Jerikson, thank you for the compliment! If I would move anywhere it would be LA! Thanks for the heads up. And I'll visit those clubs next time I am in the area...and let you know!

Jackslash, thank you, also. Detroit kinda scares me though. Lol.

Vavoom, overall the Chicago area is pretty tight compared to some other areas. In my limited experience there is a lot of paranoia re: corrupt LE who like to target dancers, including Chicago PD and the state police as well. I guess that working girls resist less than hardened criminals. ;)

I don't know what you mean by "liberal" but if you are looking for a club in the Chicago area that allows you to offer a full menu then you are probably SOL. Same holds true for clubs in the Milwaukee area. In that region of the country, it is kinda' understood that heavier duty p4p activities need to be taken outside of the clubs, at least in my experiences (and I've done some clubbing in Chicago and a lot in Milwaukee).

In any event, good luck!

" Detroit kinda scares me"

Well, by Detroit, I doubt if Jack means the city ghetto clubs. More like Inkster and the airport clubs. Even the 8-Mile clubs are mostly ok.

Rick, that is true regarding the paranoia here. It's worse for escorts, which is another reason I am heading back to the clubs. I haven't been in the club scene for years and back then my dances were "clean," but I now would at *least* prefer some grinding & groping for starters. I hate air dances and now would feel like I ripped someone off any time I have to do them.

I've heard from random men outside the clubs that they've had at least a HJ or BJ in the VIP rooms of a couple of clubs in Chicago proper, but I don't believe it. Unless the girl paid the bouncers to look the other way or she was the only girl in the room. In my experience, other dancers are hawk-eying girls for stuff like that and proceed to start a cat fight or get the girl fired on the spot.
The clubs in Harvey I know for sure have tons more happy patrons, but do I really want to go through that ghetto neighborhood?

I will find something :-). At any rate, thank you for your help!

Thanks Motörhead. I will definitely look into those. Excuse my ignorance. I took it to be literally *in* Detroit.

It is one hell of a lot cheaper to live in the suburbs of Detroit than Los Angeles. PLUS you can keep more of your hard earned $$$$$.

I am an Extras seeker, I'd visit you in a Detroit area club.

Industrial Strip in Hammond, Indiana is an option for you. It isn't too far away from Chicago. Like my buddy, Alucard suggests, come to Detroit. The Wayne County clubs (Detroit, and it's suburbs in Wayne County are very open. I'd join Alucard on a visit to see you. I'm a long, long time clubber, I know my clubs.

what you're asking isn't going to be easy to find anywhere. most Illinois clubs these days will not let dancers do "extras" ITC, too many chances of getting caught by the cops and busted for "running a house of prostitution". if you're looking for a club near Chicago that allows plenty of "hands on", though, I can suggest a place. if you want more details, PM me and I'll give you the details.

Yes Vince is fountain of information Vavoom777. We would give a great welcome to the Detroit scene.

I hope to see you come to the Detroit suburbs.

I never thought I would hear about girl who's WILLING to give extras even if unnecessary. Have we ever thought about going back to school and doing something in the medical school? In any case, wish you were in NY. Would love to meet you

Your best and most money making bet, is in an ethnic community where the horny black/spanish guys are far more willing to throw down the dirty money for ya.....and our clubs never mind ITC....but then that poses its own physical dangers....

I wish she was here in the Portland area. She is smoking hot.

NYC has TOO high of a cost of living also.

I would welcome you to the Quad Cities, where there are plenty of grinding and hands on lap dances at the clubs. A little far from Chicago though, about three hours west on the Illinois/Iowa border. A new club just opened here, Secrets, with a Chicago affiliation, if that helps any.

"It is one hell of a lot cheaper to live in the suburbs of Detroit than Los Angeles. "

Yeah, and it's cheaper to live in a cardboard box, too.

Dude, it's fucking DETROIT. Are you kidding? Who the hell wants to live in fucking Detroit?

Lol, thanks guys. Estafador honey, in your wildest fantasies would I do anything on a $20 dance! Ballsy, I am, but I'm no fool. The entire candy shop can't be given away for free, now, lol. I'm talking working the Champagne rooms half the night. The private dances would just be a warm-up. :-)

To answer your question, yes, I actually did go back to school later in life and pursued something in the medical field, as many people do. There are probably a few ladies at your club dancing their way through medical school who don't necessarily have to be fresh out of high school to decide they want to get a career in that field.

Detroit is too cold, LA is too expensive – come to down to Miami – warm weather year around – affordable housing – many liberal clubs (I recommend Tootsies – great all around club and its champagne room seems to be in use often – you’d do well).

BTW – if you are looking for a place where extras are allowed – my house is available!

Mr Jerk 40, is that where you live in a cardboard box?

You can breathe the air in Detroit without blackening your lungs.

But for truly fresh air come up to the far north to service the guys in my exploration camp - you would have no competition.

Only a short comfortable drive over a scenic bush road from the junction of the Laird and Mackenzie Rivers (when the muskeg is frozen solid). Many, many interesting things to do up here.

Wow Vavoom, how ignorant are you. Because I'm black, you assume, I only blow 20 yash at a club? Even going as far as being stereotypical, sweetie have you EVER been around ghetto characters who go to the club.......you can't get in unless you have at LEAST 500 (and a diamond chain lol). Thanks for being an asshole. BTW I really don't think that's what you look like in real life.

@Alucard: nah, she don't have to live in NYC, she could be in Brooklyn (they been really fixing it up), Staten Island, or hell even Long Island (used to live there for a while, nice area and far cheaper than NYC, TRUST ME)

Still call bullshit.

Estafador I think you blew your chance at recruiting her.

But with your attitude, I am NOT surprised. LOL

I know a great place in South Carolina called lady Godvias. At that club any thing goes. But I understand wanting to stay close to the windy city. I wish you the best

Thanks again, gents.

I didn't mean for this to thread to start turning into a train wreck. In no way was I being stereotypical, Estafador, nor did I even assume you were black. I know it's sometimes hard to see the emotion portrayed through sheer text...even though I thought I clearly got the point across by throwing in a few Lol's and :-)'s.

What I meant by $20 dances is that $20 is the going dance price at most clubs I have been to and my "extras" wouldn't be done on a dance, but in the champagne room where they should be done.
And, yes, I HAVE worked in my share of ghetto clubs, as well as every other kind of club. In my experience, just because they have $$$ doesn't mean they'll neccesarily part with it. I've had folks wave a bunch of hundreds in my face, on STAGE and tell me if I want any of them I'll have to work for it. Not my style to chase carrots. I like to do the offering myself.

At any rate, thank you ALL for helping out. Please pm me with info from here on out.

It looks like Detroit for the win ;-). However, I'm definitely not opposed to traveling around.

Thank you, Che.
Well, I guess the best explanation I have here is I have nothing to lose and more to gain by being honest. I am not currently working at a club, but involved in various other areas of the adult industry, so I've evolved past the uptight nature I was accustomed to while working at air dance clubs and naturally dont see an issue with being more liberal.
Also, since I'm not working at a club at the moment, I don't feel I'm advertising myself, per se, or posing a threat to other ladies. That makes it a little better in my mind, lol. It is not the gentlemen who are the enemies here. Never have been, as you are the ones paying my bills ;-)

I do know this goes on in many clubs. I'm a little older and have been around more than some girls I know. Been in some form of the adult industry since 1995. I paid my dues and prefer to just cut way past all the bs to find out what i need to know. I would never know if I didn't come right out and ask. That may make me either really smart or really dumb, depending on who you ask. :-) Either way, I get an answer to my questions.

I also don't follow the "norm" on a lot of things and like to play by my own rules. There still are lots of sheep even in this somewhat outcast society.

"What I meant by $20 dances is that $20 is the going dance price at most clubs I have been to and my "extras" wouldn't be done on a dance, but in the champagne room where they should be done."

A bit of a side issue I thought of after reading Vavoom's discussion of her going rate for extras.

And this doesn't apply to her, just to some strippers in general who use "stripper logic". And that is this:

Some girls won't do anything extra for a mere $10 lap dance. Or maybe even for a $20 lap dance. Or maybe even for a $40 lap dance. They have their self respect, and it's just not right to give yourself away for that small amount of money.

On the other hand, many strippers will sit around texting for most of their shift, or spend it in the dressing room. And then occasionally they'll get off their butts once every hour or two and do a dance and give out some extras. Maybe it's for $50 or $100. So let's say their net income from that is maybe $25 or $50. Hell, I don't know, whatever they net per dance....

Now, if they had gotten off their asses and got a bunch of $10 or $20 dances, they could have made that, and probably more, in the same amount of time. Or maybe even less time. Either way, they've given their bodies away for a net of maybe $25 or $50. Whether you do it in one shot, for one guy, 5 shots with 5 guys, the take-home's the same.

Interesting.

I'd be interested in reading Vavoom777's reaction to your "logic" jerikson40. I doubt that you want to read mine.

jerikson.....I saw no end point in that logic. And we're recruiting, holy sweatsocks...I thought we were just being nice and giving our honest opinion (this is not sarcasm). Well wherever you go, good luck, have fun and make sure you enjoy it as much as he (or she) does

Yeah, you're right Estafador....

I apologize Ms. Vavoom. I guess I got a little carried away. It's just that I'm always looking for a hot lapdance from someone hot like you. And, well, I guess I get a little frustrated sometimes. It's just so rare that hot girls will give it up. Well, unless you write them a big check or something.

Anyway, I apologize.

Che, I would love to. You guys will be the first to know, once I get my xtras cherry popped! :-) I've done alot, but never more than a friction dance ITC. This should be very interesting.

I'm used to the nonsense that goes on on discussion boards. There is a ton more drama and stupidity on any of the escort discussion boards and blog sites in one week than there could be here in 3 months.
I also remember the endless bitch fights both here and on SCL long before they cleaned it up. ;-)

Jerikson, no worries, lol. I got it. I actually agree, but I think the lazy girls you spoke of might just be young and not very money-motivated. I was like that too, when I first danced at clubs, but without doing extras. Part of it was being young and not caring much, also, I wasn't exactly the alpha female at clubs back then. When you have 40 girls on shift and 5 patrons that each girl rushes to hustle as soon as the poor guy sits down, it's a little daunting. You get disillusioned and give up because you know by the time you get to the guy, he's already fed up and ready to leave after being harassed by everyone before he even finished a drink.

"xtras cherry popped" ?? You've never done extras?

BS.

Jester, not at any clubs in Chicagoland area. If you read my previous posts, I've said (along with many of the guys who have confirmed the extremely uptight nature of Chicago) that I'm looking to get into it.
Escorting, working at jerk joints, or dungeons do not count as doing extras in clubs. Why not? Because I simply haven't done it in clubs as of yet.

This will be my last response to you, as you seem like you're here just looking for a fight.

You've got it RIGHT about jester214.

Maybe Jester had a bad experience with Vavoom777 in the past?

He wishes! Never met him and don't care to with that kind of attitude.

Wow. If you *ever* post over on the pink site on this subject, give me some warning, will ya? I wanna see that.

I'd suggest traveling to Louisville, but there's not too many clubs where you could command the kind of price indicated by that TER ad. The clubs at which you could get away with that kind of thing are gonna be in the less than $100 range (that is, *after* the $100-$200, depending on time, VIP fee, of which you'd get about 50%), and that's gonna be for FS.

About there being no money in escorting, I'm going to gently disagree with that, given the number of girls I've seen on backpage for at least of couple of years now. And by that I mean the *same* girls. Louisville is not Chicago, though. :)

Three of them that I know of, and probably a lot more that I don't, use the local clubs to drum up escort business, though they'll engage in the club as well. Most of the girls around here are in the $150-$300 per hour range, and seem to be doing alright.

Vavoom77: "This will be my last response to you, as you seem like you're here just looking for a fight."

Haha! Jestie will say anything to "oppose" even if it contradicts what he said in the very same paragraph. Oppose, oppose, that's just the guy's personality (and nothing else).

Time Out!! Let's look at some facts. Someone with ZERO reviews comes on site, asking about clubs that are liberal with extras. The customary response to a no pic dude coming on like that: We've mostly told him to pound sand until he submits a review- newb slinks off.

Only difference in this case is a hot pic submitted, and Voila! A bunch of mongers spout off info like Mt. Etna erupting. Fellas, this is the internet- how difficult can it be for Det. Bacon to glean a hot pic, and post away ? If Vv777 is for real, why not post a review of the clubs you've danced at, then you can peruse club reviews to your hearts content. Nice pic, but I have some healthy skepticism.

Simple. Because I haven't danced at a club in over 5 years. The review would not be up to date with information and, worse, false if the club has undergone a complete overhaul recently. Skepticism is understandable, but a newbie (me) is a newbie. Furthermore, if you know LE, you'd know that they wouldn't spend this much time going back and forth on boards, writing elaborate questions/responses, nor would they come off as friendly or nice when faced with opposition.

But, rather than sit here and defend myself because I do NOT owe an explanation to anyone. You'll probably hear some thing about me through the grapevine here, after a couple of the gents have met up with me. :-)

*applauds minnow* OMG! Someone showing reason and logic on TUSCL!?!? What next.

Vavoom, if you honestly can't understand why I'm skeptical then you're A. an idiot B. oblivious C. both.

BTW, I don't think you're cop. I think you're another monger who found a (semi) original way to ask what clubs give extras. Since normally those kind of questions are dismissed/mocked accordingly.

Did you guys put your stupid hats on today?

Why the fuck would some clown come on and ask a very general question about mileage in a general geographic area, when all they have to do is look at the reviews for the clubs in that area and get the answer? And if it was LE they already know the clubs in their area. And since when is "mileage" illegal?

I don't give a crap about the OP, I'll never see her and couldn't care less about Chicago since I never go there. So I'm asking this objectively: geezus, are you guys for real?

Because if they had posed the same question as a male they would have likely been ignored or mocked, which happens regularly when randoms come on here asking "where can I get extras".

But a purported dancers ask "where can I give extras" (gives the same information) and half the board shits themselves to help out.

Tinfoil hats! We do love our tinfoil hats!

Man I wanna fuck the shit out of Vavoom! How recent is that pic? I wish I had an excuse to travel to Chicago.

WHERE have you gone to Vavoom777? You're missed.

;)) :))

You sir sound like a sad dog begging for a bone alu

Just miss the opinions of that great looking woman.

I don't care about Dogs and bones. I am a pussy cat man.