I found out recently that a stripper that I had gotten close to did extras. It really shocked and surprised me because she is a beautiful girl. She makes pretty good money stripping. It seemed like her head was in the right place. She is in school (it's been confirmed). She's got her own house. I have known her for close to a year.
This had led me to the belief that all strippers do extras unless proven otherwise.
If you had to estimate a percentage of strippers that do extras, what would it be?
It's impossible to tell. I have also ran across a very striking dancer who did extras. At first, I judged her for her up front offers and relentless hustle, but after a long drunk night of nothing but talking, I realized she just doesn't care what people think and does what she does. Now, we're kind of close friends.
Almost impossible to even guess at... In some places it will be upwards of 90%, in other places it will be less than 5% and that 5% will be OTC, expensive, and take a bit to rope in.
'I found out recently that a stripper that I had gotten close to did extras...this had led me to the belief that all strippers do extras unless proven otherwise. '
I'm not a statistician, but shouldn't your sample size be >1?
There's no way to know. As someone else commented, at some clubs almost everyone there does them and at other clubs almost no one does them. All that you can do is ask the dancers who you're interested in what they do.
@Che- No it's not the same girl
@Steve229- I know more than one stripper that gives extras lol.
@Alucard- because if I date a stripper, I wanna make sure she's not doing extras.
This question is based on what you know, what you've experienced and what you've seen. It's just a guess.
This could be a tough question. If she's doing extras for free and gets upset at you spending too much time with another dancer and acts like she might be a girlfriend of yours, is an extra really an extra?
If every dancer you meet will suck your dick for a million bucks, then yes every dancer you meet does extras. The price may be too high though to get to enjoy the extras. If she requires marriage first, then the cost is really high.
"@Alucard- because if I date a stripper, I wanna make sure she's not doing extras."
Well ranukam, that is a private issue between you and your chosen Dancer. You IMHO need to rely on her being Honest with you, NOT on some statistical percentage that may not apply to your Dancer. There is NO way to know unless she is honest with you. Otherwise, just roll the dice & hope you get Lucky that she is not an Extras Dancer.
Let's see...she gets nude for a couple dollars and lap dances for $25-30 and who knows what else for a few $$ more. Does she know or care what honesty means?
Most of the clubs I now visit have extras widely available. That is why I go to them. I would say in those 3 clubs that top my list, at least 90% do extras. It all depends on the club.
"Let's see...she gets nude for a couple dollars and lap dances for $25-30 and who knows what else for a few $$ more. Does she know or care what honesty means?"
Well ranukam, if you plan to rely on advice like that in the quote above from that "person", then just roll the dice. You might get Lucky!
If the club that you are going to does extras it is likely that virtually all of the girls do extras. If it is a club that doesn't allow that sort of thing then pretty much none of them do extras except possibly OTC.
I realize that the type of club has an effect on the availability of extras ITC, but with those so called "clean clubs", you can still get OTC action. Forget about what type of club it is. Point blank do most strippers have sex for money? ITC, OTC, whatever.
Ranukam- No, most strippers dont have sex for money. I've never had sex for money. Ive never given a blow job for money. Ive never let someone put their mouth on my vagina for money. Ive never kissed for money.
I have put my hand on a penis for money. But its just a hand right?? :):):) Its been awhile though.
Point is, I've made it a few years without having sex for money. It wasnt hard to do.
"@Stiletto25- I consider extras (Sex, Blowjob, Handjob, DATY and DATO)"
I just find this thread really silly. My current ATF works at a non-extras club. She has been explicit in saying she does not do OTC.
Yet, she is an incredibly beautiful woman that I spend an hour in the VIP Deep Frenck kissing and me fingering her to orgasm.
By your definition, she's not doing extras. But I if she was your girlfriend, I don't think you would be happy that she lets customers do this. After reading this thread and your other thread, I think you really want to date a stripper. That's okay. But it doesn't sound like you are ready to accept what she does with other guys. Starting a relationship with jealousy in your heart would be ill advised.
What defines an Extra is an matter of opinion, Dancer's opinion & customer's opinion. I doubt we will get 110% agreement.
"if I date a stripper, I wanna make sure she's not doing extras."
ranukam, I'll repeat myself, this is a private issue between you and your chosen Dancer. You need to rely on her being Honest with you. The question of her veracity is for you to decide & evaluate. It is no different that if she were a civilian woman.
Being so concerned about prior sexual activity makes me think you're looking for a woman with NO prior sexual experience & activity. Is this what you are looking for? If not, maybe you need to define more exactly what you are looking for in this potential dating partner/woman/dancer, and what exactly is acceptable to you in terms of her real life or working experience.
Impossible to know! I do know of a few that would do anything ITC, but nothing OTC. Since I never try OTC, difficult to say. Also, I would bet that pricing makes a difference. A dancer that does ITC, and says no to OTC, well I bet if the price were "right" she would!
"It seems that you keep looking for an answer that you want to hear and changing the question trying to get it. Face it, the fantasy relationship with a good girl stripper that you are searching for most probably does not exist. Strippers, whether extras girls or not, all work in the sex industry taking money to exploit their bodies for the gratification of strangers.
You can choose to accept the experienced advice that many have offered or you can delude yourself. My advice once again is to get yourself a normal real life girl friend and stop confusing the very fucked-up stripper world with the commonly understood real world lest you end up as a pathetic old loser."
Very good answer Che, but he won't listen to you. He's looking for the 1 person in 100 that will tell him what the wants to hear to justify his actions.
@alucard - You keep suggesting honesty, but do you really think she would be honest with him? My comment was meant to suggest she would not.
What difference does it make. Some girls do, some don't. It is a matter between you and you girl. Some people consider a relationship where the male pays for the date and the female reciprocates by having sex with him is a paid relationship. If you take it a step further a husband that supports his wife and she has sex with him is a paid relationship not much different than a kept mistress. It is all in your perspective. I try not to look down on anyone who is just trying to pay their way in the world. I have never put a girl down for offering a menu nor have I put her down for not having one. I do not like when a girl lies to you. I also think that people (men or women) that forces anyone(man, woman or child) into having sex for money should be hung by their genitalia in the town square until they rot.
In all honesty, I just posted this thread to get some good discussion going. I'm not too concerned about it. Lately there's been some pretty lame threads.
I have no idea. I'd have to say for ITC, no more than 10%, because at 90% of the clubs I've been to, no one does extras, and even in clubs where they happen, there are always some who don't. OTC, on the other hand, is a lot harder to determine. I know one girl who used to dance at my favorite club who said basically all the girls except the owner's girlfriend were basically available OTC, which was one reason she left. But she said even at her new club, there were some who were still available for OTC. I'm sure all of them are available for OTC for the right price, but under normal circumstances, there's just no way to know.
"all the girls.. were basically available OTC, which was one reason she left"
I'm curious why she would worry about what the other dancers were doing outside the club. Unless she felt pressured to do OTC to keep her in-club regulars?
The competition between strippers who do extras is more intense than the competition between strippers who don't. I'll go to a club and get dances from 2 or 3 strippers in one night. It's much less likely that a guy will go to a club and get BJ's or more from 2 or 3 strippers in one night so the extras clubs have more drama and fighting behind the scenes than the non-extras clubs do.
So it does matter to the strippers what the other girls do.
That’s probably why she does extras – it’s not easy keeping up w/ a mortgage.
“In all honesty, I just posted this thread to get some good discussion going. I'm not too concerned about it. Lately there's been some pretty lame threads.â€
steve-
in response to your question, you probably had it right. I believe most if not all girls don't start out with the intention of regularly doing OTC, but a large number end up that way and if all the girls in a club are doing it, the girls who stick out are the ones who don't. And if you stick out, you get marginalized and no one wants that. Some girls really do not want to do extras and OTC and if they don't want to, you can't really blame them. If they have to change their club, so be it.
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Beyond that, I don't care.
I'm not a statistician, but shouldn't your sample size be >1?
@Steve229- I know more than one stripper that gives extras lol.
@Alucard- because if I date a stripper, I wanna make sure she's not doing extras.
This question is based on what you know, what you've experienced and what you've seen. It's just a guess.
I'm gonna say 65%
all strippers do extras if you doubt it seek counseling
Just a thought. How much you wanna bet that a "non-extras" dancer will also say they don't date customers. You might be chasing rainbows
If every dancer you meet will suck your dick for a million bucks, then yes every dancer you meet does extras. The price may be too high though to get to enjoy the extras. If she requires marriage first, then the cost is really high.
Well ranukam, that is a private issue between you and your chosen Dancer. You IMHO need to rely on her being Honest with you, NOT on some statistical percentage that may not apply to your Dancer. There is NO way to know unless she is honest with you. Otherwise, just roll the dice & hope you get Lucky that she is not an Extras Dancer.
Let's see...she gets nude for a couple dollars and lap dances for $25-30 and who knows what else for a few $$ more. Does she know or care what honesty means?
Well ranukam, if you plan to rely on advice like that in the quote above from that "person", then just roll the dice. You might get Lucky!
I have put my hand on a penis for money. But its just a hand right?? :):):) Its been awhile though.
Point is, I've made it a few years without having sex for money. It wasnt hard to do.
I just find this thread really silly. My current ATF works at a non-extras club. She has been explicit in saying she does not do OTC.
Yet, she is an incredibly beautiful woman that I spend an hour in the VIP Deep Frenck kissing and me fingering her to orgasm.
By your definition, she's not doing extras. But I if she was your girlfriend, I don't think you would be happy that she lets customers do this. After reading this thread and your other thread, I think you really want to date a stripper. That's okay. But it doesn't sound like you are ready to accept what she does with other guys. Starting a relationship with jealousy in your heart would be ill advised.
"if I date a stripper, I wanna make sure she's not doing extras."
ranukam, I'll repeat myself, this is a private issue between you and your chosen Dancer. You need to rely on her being Honest with you. The question of her veracity is for you to decide & evaluate. It is no different that if she were a civilian woman.
Being so concerned about prior sexual activity makes me think you're looking for a woman with NO prior sexual experience & activity. Is this what you are looking for? If not, maybe you need to define more exactly what you are looking for in this potential dating partner/woman/dancer, and what exactly is acceptable to you in terms of her real life or working experience.
Alucard: You want answers?
ranukam: I think I'm entitled.
Alucard: You want answers?!
ranukam: I want the truth!
Alucard: You can't handle the truth!
We won't agree on what counts as extras if we can't even agree on what counts as most.
You can choose to accept the experienced advice that many have offered or you can delude yourself. My advice once again is to get yourself a normal real life girl friend and stop confusing the very fucked-up stripper world with the commonly understood real world lest you end up as a pathetic old loser."
Very good answer Che, but he won't listen to you. He's looking for the 1 person in 100 that will tell him what the wants to hear to justify his actions.
@alucard - You keep suggesting honesty, but do you really think she would be honest with him? My comment was meant to suggest she would not.
I'm curious why she would worry about what the other dancers were doing outside the club. Unless she felt pressured to do OTC to keep her in-club regulars?
So it does matter to the strippers what the other girls do.
That’s probably why she does extras – it’s not easy keeping up w/ a mortgage.
“In all honesty, I just posted this thread to get some good discussion going. I'm not too concerned about it. Lately there's been some pretty lame threads.â€
At least you know when to raise the white flag :)
in response to your question, you probably had it right. I believe most if not all girls don't start out with the intention of regularly doing OTC, but a large number end up that way and if all the girls in a club are doing it, the girls who stick out are the ones who don't. And if you stick out, you get marginalized and no one wants that. Some girls really do not want to do extras and OTC and if they don't want to, you can't really blame them. If they have to change their club, so be it.