Dancer's Expected Income: Unrealistic Expectations

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I understand the angle you are coming from Motorhead, but I can understand they way she felt is she is a looker and is working in an average club on a Saturday night.

I think they are 'out of touch' because it's what they become accustomed too. Rightly or wrongly.

They are WAY out of touch. But can you blame them? In the media you will hear about $1000 nights and other nonsense. What isn't spoken about is the other 364 nights that are not $1000 nights. Whales that pay thousands a week - very very very rare. Etc.

Unrealistic Expectations from a stripper? No Shit?

Ya because of dum fucks like rick ross drop $1,000,000 in one night ! Shit

You really must cut these ladies a bit more slack. Remember that they will never have 40-45 year careers as dancers. I think that they are entitled to higher income expectations than you will allow. How many dancers have even a 15 year career in SCs?

In my industry, young guys with strong backs can earn $800-$1000/day but if they don't acquire skills and advance they are wrecked in 10-15 years and back pounding nails or flipping burgers for low wages. There are NO 60-year old roughnecks in my industry. When I fill a temporary vacancy on a rig I am wasted and gasping after a couple of hours.

It is perfectly fair for dancers to have these high expectations. As my old farmer neighbours are never tired of saying:

"Ya gotta make hay when the sun shines."

to be fair there is no way i would work a sat or infact any night for $100 and that is a real low amount for a stripper doing what she does??

the ones i know well, would expect to earn a minumum of around 400+ for a day shift (12pm-7pm) and 900+ for a night (9pm-2am) so not bad at all and this is not just weekend days/nights its all week. (tho of course i only know really good ones!!). they pay 65-80 (a little more if they dont want to go on stage) to the house and have to tip the DJ, but the rest is their's to keep. so a pretty decent wage?

and if they are doing extras they prob making much much more ?? i know one girl, who works about two afternoons a week, making say 900 each day and then packs in, as thats enough for her till next week!

somehow however, they are always skint !!

I saw my 2010 ATF's residence. WAY too plush for a Stripper to maintain long term considering she is 41 years old now. Also saw my 2011 ATF's residence. Much more in line with the variable income of a Dancer.

... and agree farmer they deserve what they earn,

some have a plan and get out rich, i know one who's gonna retire a millionaire afetr investing in property etc and well done to her (she's got the best tits i ever found in my life by the way, million dollar tits eh?) others meanwhile have 160 pairs of designer shoes in a closet and a stupid sports car they cant afford to keep the payments up on even with all that money coming in...

One of the only reasons I still occasionally visit the pink site is to see the ongoing argument about what it means to "bank". Some girls still maintain that anything less than $400 a night is a bust. Others, perhaps more honestly, admit that $200 per makes them happy.

One thing to look at is, she made that much on a Saturday night.

How much does she earn on weeknights? I'm guessing a lot less, and they have to feed off their earnings during the busy days. Also have to factor on how the club operates and how much dancers have to pay for everyone elses' cuts (DJ, Bouncer, House Mom, etc.)

sometimes you wonder if these girls are talking about pre or post tip out income. I know at some clubs tip out can be $125/shift (penthouse in Detroit).

Along the line of what Che was saying, I don't think many dancers have an appreciation for how difficult it is to establish oneself financially. They are accustomend to "relatively" easy money.

Often, at least to me, they come across as them feeling entitled to make exhurbitant amounts of money.

Sometimes when I hear about how much dancers make (or claim to make), I think to myself - that is more than many professionals make whom have payed their dues getting a college degree and busting their humps in their career.

Also, when dancers get upset b/c customers will not spend $$$ on them or at least as much $$$ as they think they should I think to myself, many customers also have families to support plus a life outside the club, and bills. Most of us do not have endless funds to support the lifestyle you want for yourself.

Well eventually Strippers with HIGHLY unrealistic expectations about income & how long they might RAKE it in will have their World come crashing down around them.

I would estimate that the average dancer who has any looks at all will make about $300 to $400 clear on a good night.

Of course, there are a few $1000 nights here and there and a few $100 nights too.

I pay my favorites about $50 an hour plus drinks and all their tip-out fees. I refuse to pay them more than my accountant makes.

Everyone should have unrealistic expectations not strippers

I agree with farmerart.

$100 bucks a night and I'd quit. I'm not showing my body, which I think very highly of, for $100. Its not worth it. Also consider the cost of living in my area, Seattle, is extremely high.

You get out of stripping what you put in. You want to fuck around all shift, do drugs, not take care of your body, go from seat to seat "wanna dance", then I don't know what to tell you. It's not me though

There are some night shift ROBs who don't start working until 11pm and then get mad about their income at the end of the night when they end working early around 1am. They either get lucky and sell champagne rooms or strings of regular dances or go home bust.

I heard in some clubs most of the business is on the weekend and those clubs may require the dancers to work some weeknights. All those things that are taken out of our paychecks for benefits, dancers need to make extra money to get those benefits out of her own pocket. The strip club isn't paying benefits in most cases as far as I know. $100 before tip out and she could be leaving with far less. Add in costs for her outfits, gas driving back and forth etc. and 100 bucks doesn't go far.

I remember one of my favorites told me she pulled in $4000 during the weekend in one club when it was very busy in the late summer. Now that is good money in my opinion. She's not stupid so I'm sure she saved a lot of that for those times when business is slow. Of course she has to pay for a hotel at the beach while working there so that can run $100 to $200 a night easy.

I know of one dancer that told me she was paying about 100 a night for the local hotel, definitely not at the beach. I thought that price was high. Two months later, she told she found a house for rent at only 500 a month. She said she was barely scrapping by with that 100 a night hotel charge and was nervous about running out of money. Made me glad I didn't live in town because the thought ran into her head what if she commuted and moved in with me. I didn't even go out with her once, I don't know why she even mentioned something like that.

I guess that was a sign of desperation. Of course I'm sure it would have had fringe benefits. On the downside I think I would have had trouble getting rid of her. She said I live too far away. Probably just said that because she had car trouble and I didn't sound too impressed with the idea. This was a dancer I never even bothered to get her phone number.

I'm often surprised by how many times a beautiful and (I think) popular dancer will come say to me how I'm the first or second customer she's had that entire night, and how she's only made either nothing or like $30 or $40 after several hours work. I'm thinking, hell, she'll make $40 from me alone. How is that possible that she has so few dollars? Unless she's giving me SS to pry more $ from my wallet by making me feel sorry for her and/or trying to impress me by how generous I am and happy she is that picked her.

Maybe tipouts are a bitch, but it seems to me they make more than what we're sometimes lead to believe.

Strippers seem to have a dynamic similar to professional athletes (NFL, NBA, etc.). Abnormally high earnings for a relatively short period of time (average 3-4 years).

And like athletes, most probably end up like with little to show for it (goggle "Allen Iverson broke" for latest high profile example)

Most of the dancers I know started stripping at age 18, and found they could make a lot of money ($400 or $500 a night). Stripping was certainly more lucrative than the minimum wage jobs their friends were taking, and it provided a party atmosphere that was more fun than a boring job in the straight world. (Believe me, I know.)

I'm not sure I would say dancers are unrealistic about how much they can make in a night. They know how much they can earn on a good night or a bad night, and they see it's more than they can make at Walmart or Burger King. People without education or skills will earn a little over the minimum wage, say $16,000 to $20,000 a year, by working 8 hour days for 5 days a week. Strippers can realistically earn $40,000 to $50,000 a year while working only 3 or 4 days a week, and they don't get bothered by those annoying payroll taxes. For a young, attractive girl, stripping may be the best career choice.

Perhaps dancers are more unrealistic about their long-term prospects. After 10 years of dancing, most girls find that their looks are starting to decline and that they few skills required in the straight job market.

What impresses me most are the Dancers who've done it for 10+ years. I've met some Dancers in their 30's that have been dancing more than 10 years, and IMO they are hotter than the girls just breaking in at 18-22 all day long....I admire the 10+ women because they're smart, take care of themselves and generally just "get it"....They are the ones that I'm looking to meet, gravitate towards and spend time/money on - because typically they are (for me) the most beautiful, interesting and admirable people I meet anywhere....

At the club I frequent, there is 1 stripper that is constantly bitching about how little she was making. Monday I got tired of this and sat her down for a discussion. First I asked her what she averaged a week and she said $1000. I informed her that that equalled $52,000 a year and put her solidly in the middle class for this area. I also informed her that anyone else mazking this money would be lucky to take home $39,000.

I further asked her where else she could:

1. Drink at work
2. Smoke at work
3. Do blow at work
4. Show up whenever she wanted
5. Bitch at customers
6. Have customers buy her tits
7. Be so drunk at work she can hardly stand
8. Have tax free money daily

She didn't quite know how to respond so she said she could get a secretary job anytime she wanted. I informed her that to take home the same money, she would have to also fuck her boss and half of her coworkers for money to make the same money. This all slid off her like water off a duck and I gave up and had her suck me off in the VIP. SIGH!

Romeo juice likes these gems that you speak of : )

"Unrealistic Expectations from a stripper? No Shit?"

sc said it well, but like 25 said, art hit it pretty well also. I think it a combination of the two.

@Stiletto: "You get out of stripping what you put in. You want to fuck around all shift, do drugs, not take care of your body, go from seat to seat "wanna dance", then I don't know what to tell you. It's not me though"

Oh thank goodness. And here I was about to think you were just another ditzy stripper. :)

He says as he quickly sucks out the door to find his full plate armor and flame retardant jumpsuit... :)

@gmd- lol

"wanna dance" does not cut it.. conversation does. use that tool as your opener instead of wanna dance? and you will be far off... works for me:) guy like a girl with personality as well as a beautiful body