Tipping After a Lap Dance

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Golfer99
Back in the Day lol - Dancers Never used to ask for a Tip after a table / lap dance. I always figured heck the tip was what you just got paid. Now about a huge chunk of change, it's always how about my tip? When did this start and is it just me or does everyone think this is stupid. It becomes almost like a requirement.

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parodyman-->
18 years ago
I weill tip quite generously for dances / time well spent. If on the other hand the "service" is mediocre I just pay the going rate. All this means is that I seek out clubs and dancers that I enjoy spending my time with and almost always end up tipping. (A big part of the RESPONSIBILITY of having a successful evening out lies on your sholders.)
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Book Guy
18 years ago
I often add a 10% (or there'bouts) premium afterwards. I nearly always insist on paying for a set of lappers AFTER the set (though some clubs require otherwise) but I'll often add another $10 or $20, especially if the girl (a) performs well or (b) merits another visit later in the evening or (c) seems amenable to OTC activity. A tip greases the wheels of service ...
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SteelerDawg
18 years ago
Yeah good luck on that being Ann Margaret that moves in!

(Actually.. better luck.. Jessica Alba in all her Sin City glory)

On tipping.. usually I do tip out of force of habit (cuz I'm tipping the bartender and the waitresses).. and usually just how the bills fall. (ie.. if I get three $5 dances, I'll give a 20 and not get change.. three $10's and I'll give two 20's.. etc.).. although if its an air dance or the girl is constantly staring at herself in the mirrored wall over my shoulder.. then I'll refrain from tipping.

Also, I kinda like it when they acknowledge the tips too.. use it as kind of a litmus test. A girl that starts to give me change or asks if I want change will definately increase chances of becoming a regular..

And the girls that ASK for a tip? Hate that.. it's only happened to me once, but I didn't care for it.
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messaround
18 years ago
Have you guys ever seen the movie "Grumpy Old Men" .... might be some entertainement in your neighborhood,
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Golfer99
18 years ago
I probably overtip in a resturant unless the service is really crappy and I seem to notice that a male waiter is about 75% as good as a female in most cases. That being said, I tip at the stage, I tip the drink girl, every time, and I think that if you get a good dance the reward (tip) is always another dance and the dancers need to understand that rather than ask for a tip, the good ones don't and the bad ones get pissed. It never seems to end.
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Yoda
18 years ago
I tip sometimes but it's fairly infrequent. If I know the dancer is making $20 on the dance-regardless of what the house gets-I thk tha's pretty good money for three or four minutes of work. I do tip during two for ones or any other time that a club is imposing any sort of discount dancing. I rarely tip in VIP since I think $200 to $300 for an hour of work is damn good money.
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AbbieNormal
18 years ago
Waiting tables is the most expensive job you can ever have. Once you've been a waiter you will be more forgiving of mediocre service and you'll tip 20% by default.
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FONDL
18 years ago
By the way, are most of you aware that many restaurants require the waitress to pay out of her own pocket for anyone who skips out on a bill, which she has absolutely no control over? She can work an entire shift and end up owing money. Same thing if she accidently accepts a Canadian traveler's check and give change in US $. Both happened to my ATF several times.
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FONDL
18 years ago
Whether or not I tip is based on where I am, who I'm with and how much time they spend with me. If I'm with a girl who I know well, I always tip her but it's not just for the dance, it's because she sat and talked with me for awhile before the dances. I'll usually pay for one more dance than I get, eg. if I'm in a place where dances are $20, I'll maybe buy 4 of them and give her $100. If I don't know the girl well, whether or not I tip her will depend on whether or not it's standard procedure in the place and how much time she spent with me.

As far as restaurants go, the % that I tip depends on the size of the bill - if the bill is small (eg. a cheap breakfast) I'll tip well over 20%, if the bill is high it'll be closer to 18% which is the recommended standard tip today and what most restaurants automatically add to a large group bill. My normal tip for a medium bill is 20% rounded up to the nearest dollar, eg. if the bill is $43 my tip will be $9. Of course I'm assuming that the service was OK. I'm a big tipper since my ATF worked as a waitress and I learned how hard they work and how little they often make. I think it's one of the hardest jobs there is and is usually grossly underpaid.
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chandler
18 years ago
I've never found that tipping results in better dances. It can improve my chances that the girl will join me on another night. At my regular club lately, a lot of new strippers won't do $10 table dances, just the $25 VIP dances that aren't any better. I've started tipping $5 for two dances, which equals what they get for a VIP dance, except they get to keep it all, while the house takes a $5 cut for each VIP dance. I'm hoping it will encourage more of these student/strippsrs to see the advantage of coming around and rubbing their luscious young bodies all over mine.
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Golfer99
18 years ago
Thanks for the input. I don't view this as a similar situation between a waiter at a resturant. The best story I ever heard was an escort in Vegas who did not accept tips under any circumstance, and she was/is a good one. I asked her why and she asked what I did. I told her that I ran a consulting firm. She asked me if when we finished a job did we go in and ask how we did, I said yeah usually have a form or CD for them to do. She said if they tell you that you did good do you ask for a tip? I said uh no that would be unprofessional - she said exactly lol Most of the clubs have a daily pay out for the girls. They keep their tip money and table/lap dance money and pay to dance their, I like the idea of if I like them getting more dances I just hate the tipping idea because if you got a shitty dance, then you don't tip and the dancer is immediately upset or you do tip and you feel ripped no win.
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AbbieNormal
18 years ago
I think it depends on the place and the dancer. If it is a place where the house takes a lot of the LD price I usuallt tip at least a little for a good dance (i.e. if I intend to get another). I would also have to agree with token that every so often a few extra tips open up new territory even without multiple dances. First time I went inder the g-string it was with an extra tip in hand. The hand made subsequent visits sans tip, but I'm not sure that would have happened otherwise.
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hugevladfan
18 years ago
You are 100% accurate with your tipping theory. As someone who works in a service industry I've always felt that what I give would somehow come back to me. People in the industry juss know and it's very unstated. I would never tip after a lapdance or three. If I felt that a stripper was quite generous in her time with me I will give her a few extra bucks to compensate for the lost revenue unless I've gotten more than 15 dances (this recently happened)
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ralphyboy
18 years ago
Standard, average wait service gets fifteen %. By comparison your average lap (most of them) get no tip-the price of the LD is enough. Unusually attentive, gracious and professional wait service rates a premium tip. And what man in his right mind, could NOT tip a particularly sensual, hands-on so-called 'dance' that finishes you before the song itself is done. Those gurls are tried and true professionals in a class by themselves, and fully deserve a premium tip. You'd have to be a heel to slink away from one of these vixens w/o compensating their distinctive service above and beyond the mere price of the 'dance.'
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token
18 years ago
I tip during lap dances in some instances. This would be in bikini bars where the dances are $10 in some clubs and $20 in others. Basically if Im getting a $10 dance or a two for $20 I might tip the dancer as she entertains (depending on her attitude etc.). You will be surprised at the increased mileage. Many dancers have commented that Im the only guy that has ever done that.......they do appreciate it.
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chitownlawyer
18 years ago
Of course, one reason my "restaurant' analysis fails in the case of lap dances is that in a restaurant, you are tipping the waitress, whose service is additional to "the product"--your food. In the case of a lap dance, the dancer IS "the product."

I tip 20% in restaurants, unless the service was bad. When I first starting practing law, I dated a hairdresser for a couple of years, and she always pushed me toward generous tipping. I think that people who work for tips have some agreement that they will look out for each other.
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chandler
18 years ago
One point I meant to make about Chitown's restaurant comparison is that a lap dance is different in that the "help", not the house, pockets the "sticker price", so the notion of a tip by percentange doesn't really apply. I think the $50 half-hour VIP deal at his favorite club, where $10 of the $50 goes to the house makes at least a $10 tip seem only fair.

I don't think I've ever given repeat business to a girl who asks me for a tip after I've paid her. On the other hand, a girl who offers to give me change when I give her three twenties for $50 in dances makes me more inclined to say keep it.
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casualguy
18 years ago
yes, I agree shadowcat. Tipping at the stage can be rewarding. That's why it seems surprising so many just sit back like a frog on a log. Of course in one club I believe I knew why. There seemed to be more dancers than customers and the girls were sitting beside or on customers laps as soon as they sat back in a chair. After I sat in a chair for a few minutes, I was approached by a few dancers. It seems strange when there are more dancers than customers. It was relatively early in the evening though. maybe 9 pm.
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casualguy
18 years ago
Generally speaking, if I encounter dancers that expect tips, I'll just tell them no thanks and have nothing to do with them. I tip at the stage and pay for dances but that's usually it. I believe about 95 to 98 percent of the guys in the clubs I go to don't even tip at the stage.
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casualguy
18 years ago
The best way I know to tip is to buy more dances at the club that night or on another visit. If I don't like her dances, I'm not going to buy any more from her. I might tip a dancer if she gives an exceptionally good dance but that rarely happens. If I tipped and bought dances from every single dancer that seemed good looking, I'd have to be pretty darn rich. Now if a dancer asks for a tip and all she did was sit there beside me for a minute and then ask for a dance, I might wonder what part of the country she came from because I think that is a bit rude especially when I didn't ask her to sit beside me.
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chandler
18 years ago
As a reward for a dancing job well done, I buy more lap dances from her. That said, I'll go along with it at clubs where tipping seems to be routine, especially where the house takes a cut.

I wonder if guys who haggle for reduced prices then tip afterwards?
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chitownlawyer
18 years ago
I've always considered the "sticker price" of the dance to be like the price on a menu in a restaurant...that it was understood that some tip to the help was coming on top of it. Of course, my ATF thinks that I am a soft touch in the amount of money I give to other dancers (but not in what I give HER, of course...)
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