Is tuscl Corporate and Stuffy?
founder
slip a dollar in her g-string for me
I got this email today, and it sort of threw me for a loop.
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As a former #1 reviewer on this site, I am sad to see what has happened to it. It is way too corporate and stuffy. Reviews have to be approved by editorial board? WTF. have been on this site for years. not unhappy my free VIP membership is probably gonna end by the new year. This site used to be it, the ultimate source. now it is just another pompous, corporate website. There used to be passion and soul here. now it is just a numbers game. too bad.
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While I know tuscl has changed a bit over the years, but not all that much. We still are dedicated to helping you find the best strip club. Any opinions?
thanks
F
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As a former #1 reviewer on this site, I am sad to see what has happened to it. It is way too corporate and stuffy. Reviews have to be approved by editorial board? WTF. have been on this site for years. not unhappy my free VIP membership is probably gonna end by the new year. This site used to be it, the ultimate source. now it is just another pompous, corporate website. There used to be passion and soul here. now it is just a numbers game. too bad.
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While I know tuscl has changed a bit over the years, but not all that much. We still are dedicated to helping you find the best strip club. Any opinions?
thanks
F
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And discussions and comments about getting ITC extras again does not sound like something "corporate types" would really stand behind (though they probably don't mind having the idea out there, as it piques interest).
Did the writer back their argument with any specific event or pattern, as opposed to just a general feeling of a loss of "passion and soul"?(*)
(* and find me one endeavor where passion does not cool off a bit after a while, anyway)
sure tuscl isn't perfect but i think that overall you have the best resource for strip club info online.
they are my major complaints about tuscl, i don't think they should be allowed to post their free spam, but it is your site so if you don't mind them i'll just keep them on ignore ;)
@troop... yeah, I am not a fan of the spammers, I too have a few on ignore. But they signed up legit, and some of the stuff they post I am sure is news to some readers.
My impression was that the only way to get a review rejected is if it was spam, or too short.
I can see the need for some manual approval of each review because it's tied to the VIP membership system.
This is a rant, short on specific and detailed complaints; long on emotional diarrhea. Corporate & stuffy...pompous? WTF does that mean in this context? I haven't the foggiest.
Screened reviews are an essential discipline; keeps tuscl from becoming another strip club list or net or whatever bitch, moan, and attack site.
The quality of individual reviews and the veracity of individual reviewers are not under founder's control. As I've said before in other posts many reviewers do not give adequate description of various aspects of club [physical, dancers, value]. Many reviews lack specifics to back up opinions, though in defense some vagueness is necessary to protect the "guilty." Moreover, the ratings assigned by some reviewers are higher than warranted by the words and tone of the review. Again not founder's fault.
Refining the rating system does not enhance the value of the reviews if the data-in is of poor quality. And, nowadays, tuscl must guard against shills. Nevertheless, the quality club reviews are a valuable source of information not found elsewhere.
I wasn't around since the beginning but I'm sure tuscl has changed. I doubt, though, that it has strayed very far from it's stated aim:
"More than a list. It's the evocation of a culture"
Apple and Google now are different from the start-up companies they once were.
Founder, there may be legitimate criticism to be learned from but not in this emotional, factless rant.
On the other hand, I know you refresh the UI every once in a while, and the current UI is nice and clean, but as another post mentioned, the discussion board main page layout is not too efficient, with too much space dedicated on the left to info about the member. There, that's my complaint!
founder 04/27/11 9:41 PM
I think the reason this bothers me so much is because this is a person that has been around a looooooooong time. not sure what he sees as so different than 10 years ago.
^^^
well why don't you ask him to be more specific regarding his complaint?
Don't sweat it, founder
My only complaint-As a writer, I'm jealous that there are so very many articulate people here. This might be the sender's real complaint. He doesn't get a chance to sparkle in a galaxy full of bright stars. Actually, I'm glad it is that way. I've been at sites where I'm the gee whiz kid. It takes pressure off of me and makes my brain actually work to see informed opinions on a variety of topics.
Unfortunately, some people force change as a "corporation" grows. These changes can also be positive or negative in anyone's eyes. Smething that can't really be helped if survival is the goal.
That said, TUSCL is so far out in front as number one, nothing else need be said!
http://replay.web.archive.org/1998120520…
In my opinion, this was pretty significant insight into how the club management and dancers treat customers and other TUSCL members agreed with me on the main discussion board. The review was rejected yet the following review got accepted for Pulse from nallah.
"I am a dancer here and I think that this place is up and coming.. Since I started here I have definitely seen an improvement. From talking to customers, this place is recovering from a not so good reputation. The new owners have this club on the right track and I think if you give it a chance you will find out that it really is a nice place to come and enjoy yourself. Look me up my name is Nallah, I would love to show you a good time, and there are several worthy dancers here as well.. "
TUSCL is still the best...well, only...place to obtain reliable "stuff" about SC's and SCing. If editorial oversight is necessary to keep the shills out, and maintain the authenticy of the reviews, then do it. Discussion gets pretty fuckin' snarky at times, but nothing like the flame wars of just a few years ago.
I think the sender of the email was venting...and reminiscing about the good ol' days of ass-c and Chez Paris.
In the absence of a review feature, people could simply post any junkie comments they wanted simply to obtain/retain VIP. Not only would this make the club reviews MUCH LESS useful for me, but as a guy who spends a shit load of money each year in SCs the thought of people benefiting from my time and spending via my reviews, without legitimately contributing back, would irks me.
Perhaps he has an issue with the flag feature? Well, if so I can understand his point to a degree (I am a bit of an anarchist myself - lol), but overall I am happy with it as not only can junk posts be flagged, but so can more dangerous stuff. Words have consequences, even on an Internet site. When some moron posts that he got a BJ from Dancer XXX in a club review, he could be doing harm to both the club and the girl. There are reasons why some of the dancers in the clubs are so sensitive about having their names posted in a tuscl review.
Finally, I don't see the spammers as a big problem on here - there are only a couple and they are not clogging up the boards.
Anyway, thank you again for providing us with this valuable resource. I have a couple of road trips coming up and I am looking forward to scoping out my options on here, as well of course as reporting back on the fruits of my visits. :)
So I guess the general consensus is that member was a little out of touch, huh?
Oh, and clubber and shadowcat, your prize is in the mail (amazing guess)
Your site is the best. I like the intel I can get especially when visiting a new city, so you don't waste your money. Definitely think the person who sent the e-mail is out of touch, or bitter about something and just needed to vent, but until he provides specifics I see it an nothing more than venting for venting sake. I think the site has improved in the several years since I joined. Keep up the good work.
Mo
I suppose it's just the "editorial review board" term itself; it *might* sound a little on the stuffy side if one is in a curmudgeonly mood. I, however, took it to indicate a process rather than a literal board of reviewers sitting around a table in a dimly lit room somewhere passing judgement on reviews.
FWIW, TUSCL is the *only* Internet bulletin board on which I participate on a more than *very* occasional basis. That's primarily because my preference to participate via email is negated by both the compelling content of TUSCL and the technical aspects of the site that make it absurdly easy to use.
Yes, 100% yes. The fine work you are doing here is vastly appreciated.