hostess clubs

If you're lonely and want someone to talk to, or if you just want to brush up on dating skills and build the confidence to talk to attractive girls, then $30/hr is probably much more affordable than what you'd have to pay an escort or a dancer.

that's a very fair point, i suppose it is somewhat of a niche.

How old do you have to be to get in one of these places? I assume no alcohol or sexual contact. Where does it go from there customarily? Do you try to set something up OTC? Sounds like punishment for financially under-performing strippers, LOL!

Ooh, there was one of these kinds of places near my house when I was a kid. It always seemed like the Twinkies and HoHos were fresher there. I was a fan of those apple and cherry pies myself.

Oh ... wrong 'Hostess'. Oh well.

Sounds like a rip. I'd rather have three minutes of booty in my lap for $30 than an hour of meaningless conversation.

I suppose the girls like it because they don't have to put their booty in anyone's lap. But if there's no demand, it doesn't matter what the supply is.

Well they exist for a reason, so i assume there is some sort of demand... However, it is not definitely something i would personally be interested in going to.

Sometimes they will play with your dick while sitting at the bar and chatting with you. Also it is good for guys who like to talk dirty to the women where as a dancer might get creeped out too easily.

I'll pay for sex but I'm not paying just to hang out and talk to a chick. Seems pretty pathetic. Paying for sex is one thing, it's a way to just get right to it and not have to go out hunting for someone and go out on 3 dates to try get some ass. Sometimes as a guy you just say to yourself, I want to laid...now. But as for paying a girl to hang out and chat with no sex, I guess some guys have such low self esteem and are so shy they need this as a confidence booster. I guess serves a purpose as more of a therapy session. If I'm just going to hang out with some hotties I can go to my local Hooters and have a few beers and some laughs with the girls there for much less.

If I wanted to pay for the privilege of hanging out with a woman with no chance of sex....I'd get married! LOL

There seem to be alot of them here in downtown LA. They seem to cater mainly to the latino community. I have never been, but the few people I know who have been have nothing good to say about the places.

Interesting. The only "hostess clubs" I've ever heard of have been Asian. Either overseas, or in asian enclaves here in the States. The understanding being that if you found a compatible "hostess," you could make arrangements to conclude the evening with her on a more intimate basis.

Not that I would know anything about that personally, just what I heard.

Steve229> you are right "hostess clubs" are an Asian thing. There are several in Ca. and other Asian communities. There are quite a few that are Asian only (no whities etc...). You pay a fee and then the girls hustle you for drinks. Some will play handsie with you and you can usually hook up OTC. A friend has frequented one and said it had a back room to rent. They are usually low key and stay UTR in the U.S. There's a few boards that discuss them. I wouldn't pay by the hour, but it could be fun to pay $30 cover charge if it was full of hot Asian girls available for take out.

I've bought lady drinks in TJ and had girls let you feel anything you want for buying the drink. They will also play with your junk as long as you're buying drinks. Of course in TJ it's cheaper and easier to just go to the upstairs motel room for 1/2 hour.

I found what I thought was interesting reading although dated.
http://www.sexwork.com/lahostess/clubfan…

I was in LA a few weeks ago and, at the urging of a friend, tried Club Fantasy. My friend was a regular at the club for some 15 years!
he knows all the tricks. Too bad he wasn't with me, I'd have had a better time. The owner/hostess knew my friend by his name - she's been there forever. She asked me what my type was - but first I paid a $15 cover. It is some $37per hour to the house - but the girl is tipped about the same. They also want you to tip the waiter. You can bring in booze, as they don't sell it there.
The trick is to get a girl who will drink with you! the Asian girl the owner recommended was a real knockout - ans was excited when I showed her the Makers Mark -she said she loved it! I figured she'd be drunk in no time and I'd be fucking her soon - but she would drink much. We played pool - she was so bad I had to teach her how to play - and she couldn't even learn that. At least Playboy Bunnies can often play pool like a pro - here - nothing. Went back but couldn't get any mileage at all. After 3
hours with this fox, I had to leave. It was $149 for the house and $150 for her - cost $300 - that's $100 per hour - a lot less than a strip club private room but a bit steep for just talking.
My friend said I should have traded her in quickly and tipped her $20 and went to one who likes to drink or have more fun. He's been laid in the bathroom of this place - with some girls - anything goes!! But for me, a pricey lesson.

Prior to reading this thread, my understanding had been that in most places a hostess-club was a front for a back parlor of prostitution. And that if any customer stuck around JUST to play handsie-footsie, he'd quickly arouse the suspicion of the madam or manager.

Now I'm seeing, at least from this thread, that some of these clubs in some places offer merely the hostessing option. I wouldn't find that EXTREMELY enticing but, I suppose, if that's the only way I'm going to get a chat-up and maybe a mild little fondle of friendliness with a hawt yung thang, and I have some spare time, it beats the hell out of sitting at a working-men's tavern and drinking a lager while looking at sports on TV with the rest of America's sad-eyed tired lower-middle-class males. But I might wonder whether I had "entree" into the proper community -- Latin, Asian? -- and I'd certainly try to find out about outside-the-club extras hook-ups, promptly.

So, no, I don't seem to think of it as very enticing, either. It'd all be about what ELSE I could get, above and beyond mere hostessing.

I understand, as well, that in Japan this is the very high-rollers' NORMAL way to interact with 'gaijin.' Lots of blonde Western women make a bundle hustling drinks for a while, then bringing their Yen back home with them and voila a holiday or study-abroad trip to Japan has become self-funding! They should beware debt-schemes where the outfit tries to indenture them, and plain ol' kidnapping where they end up in a Yakuza box on the way to Saudi Arabia, but otherwise it seems a great way for cultures to mix. :) We should have more of that over here. :) Except with prostitution, of course. :)

Any in Jersey?

Been a while since this thread was resurrected. Club fantasy and club tropical, any others in Los Angeles or preferably Orange County? I have been scouring the internets and nothing. I think I would prefer the dancing and groping and seems much cheaper than 20 at a time for 3 min. Also, am I supposed to tip on top of the $30 per hour to the house? How much? How do I keep track of time so that I know I'm getting the full time? And what happens if there is no chemistry and I only want 15min? I'm good on strip clubs for now because they are just too damn expensive. Amps are lame, Terrible quality and experience. Thanks for the help!

Also I'm partial to latinas

People have written about these clubs, going way back to the 1930's, and online in the recent decades. There used to be more, and in the LA area. Right now I only know of 4 of them.

I have not been there, but I plan to be. But most of the people say that in the "couch rooms", you can get some nice makeout sessions, most of the time. Then you see the girl outside. People write about them being more about romance, as opposed to strip clubs. That is how they describe it. Mostly you just get to know a girl, and maybe get quite physically friendly.

On one of their discussion sites, two girls have pictures, and it is like the pictures were taken up close, and as if a guy is getting underneath their undergarments. So unlike with the emphasis on visuals at a strip club, the emphasis is on the up close and personal.

The girls are advertising themselves for escort service. One of the girls puts on her pictures, "GFE For All".

The minimum looks standard is lower than it would be for a strip club. But you just have to find a girl you like, and with spending some money, she should be easy to get into your own bed most of the time. So, with some complexities, you've got yourself a GF.

One of the clubs, either Fantasy or Starlight, has a girl chamber. Because of the lights inside, you can see them and they cannot see you. So you tip the mamasan to retrieve the girl you want. So they can't flirt with you or try to get your attention. So they might dress sexier, maybe.

In the two Latino clubs, watch out for underage girls.

Oops, didn't realize how old this thread was.

I believe none in Orange County, just the 4 in downtown LA, two of them are totally Hispanic.

Others in North Carolina and NorthWest Indiana, and these are probably FS.

Good Luck,
SJG

What are the 2 Latino clubs in Los Angeles? I heard galaxy i think, but then that it might be dangerous for a non Latino male? Is tipping on top of the house fee required? Some other thread I read said they were paying 300 for 3 hours which seems quite a bit more. Thank you!

One is LA Grand, but they call it LA Grind, because there is no place to sit down, so people just stay on the dance floor and grind.

All 4 are listed here in the LA Clubs section.

SJG

A number of years back there was a club called Senoritas in West Palm Beach (not the one on TUSCL) and I had a friend who was a Bartender at at the old Peekaboo Club in Palm Springs, who's boss had an interest in the former, Senorita's which was described as Taxi Dance studio.She told me that the way the club functioned was there were a lot of Guatemalan and Mexican migrant workers who were here working on the farms in the western part of the county that didn't speak Spanish rather they spoke Toltec and Mayan, who were lonely so they would come to these clubs and the hostesses spoke those indigenous native languages and they would pay them a few dollars to dance with them and speak in their native language, AFAIK there was no nudity or overt sexual connotations at that club, rather it was a place for these lonely men with families far away to go and relieve some of their homesickness.

^^^^ Agreed, not really for sex, more for the lonely.

But in NoCar and Northwest Indiana, I believe their hostess dancing places are brothels.

And with the 4x LA Clubs, mostly as far as it goes is makeout sessions, for Fantasy and Starlight, but with OTC following.

People have written about one of the LA Clubs having a late shift of girls coming on at 10pm. It is either Fantasy or Starlight. And Starlight should be the one with the 'girl chamber', where you can see them but they can't see you, so they can't try to get your attention.

Their was a movie about such places, and a book from the 1930's, and yes, it is for the lonely. None of the people here or in strip clubs are lonely, no way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxi_dance…

SJG

Yes, twentyfive the hostess clubs here in LA work mainly the same way. Here they are predominately Mexican staffed and the customers are typically blue collar Mexican guys. Most of the women working there don't speak much English. These clubs are geared primarily for lonely latino's who don't speak great english. It's important not to confuse these hostess clubs with "modeling" clubs where the girl offers to strip for you in a private room but the best you can hope for is to whack off while she's 10 feet away from you. Total clip joints.

^^^^ What you are saying I believe applies to the 2x Latino LA Hostess Clubs. No couch rooms. But likely you can take a girl home with you.

Of Fantasy and Starlight, they have couch rooms, and makeout sessions are common. And then usually you can take the girl home with you.

Of tipping, it is understood that the girl gets an amount equal to the house fee, for dancing in the front room.

But in the couch rooms, she gets double that.

There are special forums devoted to these clubs. There use to be about nine, including some in COI and Baldwin Park. But now, it is just the 4 in LA. And two of those are the Latino type with no place to sit down. So they just grind.

Of the 2 non-latino, Fantasy and Starlight, most of the patrons are older Asian men who drive nice cars. The girls tend to be poor. And their looks will tend to be sub stripper grade. But you still should be able to find one you like.

SJG
SJG

I believe a similar thing is popular in Japan.

Dallas has a large Mexican and Central American population - thus there are clubs such as "twentyfive" and "lopaw" described where immigrant Latinos went to socialize, drink some beers, and get some company and dances from some of the ladies that wore sexy dresses and wore makeup.

The clientele seemed mostly men that came from rural parts of Mexico and Central America where town fiestas or dance-halls are the only thing to do and perhaps these Latino hostess spots kinda mimic what they had back in their small towns?

Thanks for all the help guys, sjg you mentioned forums with more info. I've been searching for weeks and can't find a thing. Where or what should I be searching for?

IMO hostess clubs are a waste of time for the avg urbanite - if one wants company they can probably get that at a decent strip-club by tipping the dancer a fair tip for her time and buying her some drinks - and the option is still there to get more - or just do sugar-baby dates - I'm sure plenty of women that would go out on a non-sexual date while getting paid a fair-amount

See I don't think that's the case since from what I've heard you can bump and grind and it's much cheaper than a strip club. I'm not going for the conversation and I'm definitely a blue light shopper lol. As for sugar baby dates, too expensive and too much damn work from what I can tell. Going to a website, paying crazy monthly fee, then setting something up. Ugh. The other thing I was interested in is fichera bars but I can't seem to find any of those either but it seems to be the same concept. Those should be everywhere but again can't find any info about them in Orange County. They gotta exist though I'm sure of it.

What you want is Mexican bar table dancing. It's a blast, with the tables, the bar, and the Mexicans. Far beyond anything you can find in a pathetic hostess club.

Where can I find that in Orange County? Or Los Angeles? Has to be within an hour away which is why Mexico is a no go

You can ask the sanjose creep but from his previous posts he seemed to favor Mexican hat dancing guys.

@Anthony_seito: The undisputed expert on all things Hostess Club in Los Angeles is a PL whose handle is TenFree.

He used to have a hostess club blog that was an adjunct of Z-Bone's LA strip club site, and unlike the people here who insist on pretending they have knowledge of a subject just by reading someone else's comments, he's lived and breathed LA Hostess Clubs for going on 20 years now.

I dabbled in the HC scene in the early 00's, back when the City of Industry had an HC called Boss Club. Mostly Latina hostesses (with a few white chicks and blacks, too), my monger friends and I laid waste to that place, committing every type of debauchery known to man. At one point, our private monger group even rented out the place in the daytime and invited about 20 hostesses to show up. Non-stop fucking for about 6 hours before we got kicked out. Still one the highlights of my mongering activities and the only place I ever engaged in anal sex with a dancer (and no, I was not on the receiving end; that only happened with Veronica Brazil. But that, as they say, is another story).

Of course, all good things must come to an end and COI eventually outlawed all hostess club in their city. Boss was turned into a cigar bar, and is/was located in the same general parking lot as Spearmint Rhino.

CP

Anthony, I'll try to find the yahoo group.

There was this thing Ten Free Hostess Forum, which connected with the So Cal Strip Club site Z-Bone. But then it was a message board, and now a yahoo group. And those COI and Baldwin park places that Chili P is talking about are long gone. :(

Hostess dancing is seen as kind of old fashioned.

Was big in Argentina, lots of elderly men from Germany. Evita Peron got her start in such a club. Tango dancing was originally for Dance Hall Hostesses only, not Good Girls.

SJG

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SJG

Tina Turner had this to say:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFz3llHu…

If it costs $30 an hour, the girl makes $15-20?

I've always loved the description of hostess clubs. Hell, in a way I've created as "hostess club"-ish an environment as possible in the SC -- lots of alcohol, table full of my friends and at least one girl for each, hanging out for quite a while ... and then arranging for OTC. I'd love to get my feet wet with hostess clubs, particularly if there were some with latin and white women, but I'd try out just about any where OTC sex were possible to arrange.

You dance with the girl, it gets quite handsy. And then in the couch room, it further escalates.

SJG

Way back there used to be some of these in Ft Lauderdale. One of them would advertise on late night tv. It's name escapes me. The ad would show a man and woman sitting and dancing together. I gotta imagine there was some extras at these places.

The ones attached to Adult Book Stores and listed on TUSCL, in North West Indiana, and in North Carolina, sound like straight up brothels.

The So Cal ones that used to be in COI and Baldwin Park, might have been extreme. Don't know.

But based on what has been said on forums for years and years about the 4x remaining ones in LA, makeout sessions are common, almost standard. But for more than that you just take your girl with you when you leave. More GFE oriented that strip clubs, but no pants down or FS.

We have someone here who has lots of first hand experience with these 4 clubs. See if he chimes in.

2x of the clubs are Hispanic, and they don't have places to sit down. So it might be more limited. But Fantasy and Starlight are mixed race and they have couch rooms.

SJG

So here, El Gaucho, someone just wrote a review of it. You might try PMing some of these recent reviewers if you want more info.

So Fantasy and Starlight are more mixed race and with couch rooms.

LA Grand and El Gaucho are totally Hispanic and the girls don't speak English. Don't know what goes on without the couch room.

https://www.tuscl.net/club.php?id=1570

Anyone know of more hostess dancing clubs?

SJG

Interesting. No such thing exists in New England, as far as I know.

Very few places still have it. An old fashioned type of thing. Much older than strip clubs.

SJG

The ones in NW Indiana and Fayetteville NC, they look to be straight up brothels. But the 4x LA Clubs, no.

SJG

Wow - Chili Palmer brought back memories of Hostess clubs in LA like 20 years ago with TenFree and Z-Bone days.

I thought of looking up current status since am debating a trip to SF in October for the 9th Circuit oral arguments challenging the prostitution law I have reported on extensively.

As I recall the good SF strip clubs are very expensive... but maybe take a side trip to LA just to check out some old clubs (one closed long ago for the new big convention center).

As I recall Starlight was mostly a very expensive buy the lady a drink Asian club. Club Fantasy I think I liked alot. Also the strip clubs in City of Industry I often enjoyed. Recall "Boss club" but not sure I ever went there for some reason.

As my many strip club reports in Phoenix show I am more into caring touch intimacy not the usual sex and recall liking that at the hostess clubs (and some SF strip clubs). But am not a big spender, paying hostess same as hourly rate is fine but read someone said double that for couch work would probably not interest me. Also like "intelligence' and clear English. Seems a lot less good English speaking gals then in the old days.

Zero interest in buying expensive drinks. I don't even drink just have diet coke or Pepsi if a minimum drink required at strip clubs.

Am just starting to do some research to decide if the cost of a trip to LA or SF is worthwhile. I have fallen in love with Toronto area without any legal issues but only can afford one trip a year for 10-14 days going back about 10 years (my site sexworktoronto.com)

Thanks for the fond memories from many years ago!

I've seen a couple of Fayetteville clubs under the hostess category, and they are set up differently than the ones in LA. I haven't been to LA in a while, but let's say the hostess clubs I saw there are not on my list next time I'm in town.

I stumbled upon a hostess club in Cabo San Lucas a couple years ago. The twist was it also had a " room with a bed " if you really connected with your hostess. I posted a review back then.

tj.

just go to tj.

tijuana.

mexico.

zona norte.

Wallanon, might you say more about these Fayetteville NC places, I have read about their existence.

As for the LA clubs, there are not that many left. But we have people her on TUSCL who like them.

People say there is more romance than at a strip club. That is how they explain it. You get more time to talk with your girl.

At Stardust and Fantasy, good makeout sessions in the couch are reported as standard. And most of the girls good at that, will also be happy to continue OTC.

SJG

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https://youtu.be/cxA3Q96a8XE?list=PLmMCb…

In the late 1990s there were about a dozen clubs in downtown Los Angles. It was such a "skid row" area at the time and the city was more willing to overlook whatever businesses could function. Then Staples Center was built - and the city got serious about "cleaning things up" and trying to draw development back to the center city.

^^^^^ That jives with my own understanding of the history of it, and also in City of Industry and Baldwin Park.

SJG

I've watched a lot of videos on Japanese hostess clubs in Japan. The "hostesses" are actually encouraged to form OTC (non-sexual supposedly) relationships with the clients to keep them coming in to the club. The smoking hot honeys are expected to drink with the custies because that is what drives revenue. And the custies drink heavy and expect the honeys to keep up.

As pathetic as it is, if I won the lotto I would go live in those clubs and probably drink myself to death. They look fun as hell.

i can agree with one difference. if i won the lotto i would be living in the north upstairs vip rhoom in hk.

Wow, 52 years old and I learned something new today. Had never heard of such a thing as a Hostess Club.

I visited one for a short time with my wingman, in San Diego. The price there was $45 per hour, not $30.

We couldn't figure out the attraction. Asian ladies, Asian guys paying the money to talk to them.

Had there been any prospect of sex, it might have made sense, but there wasn't.

We went to a Breastaurant instead.

I don't know about San Diego. And there is one place in LA where reportedly there may be nearby FS. We have people here on TUSCL who would know. Sounds like Latina MILF's.

But of the main two places, Fantasy and Starlight, there are lots of Asian men. I hope to be there to try them out. But I have not. I know from reading on the LA hostess forums. And these had used to connect to Z-Bone.

Typically its dancing, then the couch / TV room, where the girl gets double the tipping level, and where makeout sessions are standard. But that is as far as it goes ITC.

Many of the girls go out with customers. And if you are indeed making out with her, she'll do whatever you want her to, just don't treat her like a prostitute.

About Fayetteville NC and Gary Indiana, I have read accounts, but I would like to know more.

SJG

Brian Swimme
https://youtu.be/TRykk_0ovI0?list=PLEAE6…

Club Fantasy is easy to get to in LA. It's near the subway and you do not even need to drive there, although I remember parking wasn't hard to find. It never was the best club layout for extras - the other ones, with hidden areas behind pillars and corners gradually were closed. I have not been there for over a dozen years now but I remember the majority of the women were latinas, and the men were all types.
I thought it was fun to pick an unfamiliar girl, explore her body while dancing, sense her limits. Occasionally you find someone that is willing to kiss and grope on the couches. I got a few girls' numbers at times but they flaked and I never could actually hook up. I met one lady over to 40 years of age there who told me she was available for sex OTC after I'd been sucking her tits ITC and had gotten warmed up. Chose not to take her up on it, though.

Classic SJG thread bump. Has no first hand knowledge whatsoever about the topic, but still insists on sharing his "wisdom" with the group. Great, so you know how to use Google Search. Good for you!

@davephx: The COI hostess clubs back in the day would have been your ideal clubbing situation. Plenty of hostesses would have loved your whole "nesting" concept and I'm not sure you'd ever leave. Those were fun days.

CP

Yeah the COI Clubs were where I spent the most time. I didn't like the music they played too much but they had a small, crowded floor and the majority of the women I met were OK with either being pressed against the wall, or letting me lean on the wall while they'd grind me off. I always left with an "accident" in my pants. LOL

^^^^^ And classic Chili Palmer troll post, adds nothing to what has already been posted, but just spews out negative meta narrative.

SJG

Just because it's negative doesn't make it any less true. Go to a fucking club and write about it, and the narrative stops. It's just that simple.

CP

^^^^^^^ Chili, your narrative is stopped, as far as I am concerned, because I could not care less about what you write.

If people who have been to these clubs want to post about them, great. But more often than not, people are less than forthcoming. And on the hostess forums, derived originally from TenFree, huge amounts of information are disclosed.

Clearly you really have a need for this Chili:
http://images.toolbank.com/images/extral…

SJG

I've heard that they have these kinds of clubs in Japan, but with hosts, and ladies come in and buy bottles for their time. I actually think I'd do this w some of my female friends.

I frequented club fantasy for about six months this year till the girl I liked disappeared. If anyone has any questions I'd be glad to answer.
I like hostess clubs , but in la I only like fantasy