new acronym: SCS

Actually, I've been thinking about a way to combat such a thing, but I'm not really sure how to apply it.

I've been thinking about a TUSCL membership card. In order to qualify for it, you have to have 25 (real) club reviews and 75 posts on this board.

Card in hand, we should be taken seriously, but like I said, not sure how to apply it.

I agree Dreamgirls used to do this and I quit going there until I found out they got new mgmt. I have not tried calling since though. Some clubs the door girl will flat out refuse to give out names saying she is "not allowed".

If you tip the door girl, chat up with her a bit and let her know your name...maybe next time you call she might let you know who is working with an honest voice.

SCS reminds me of the term Clip Joints

en.wikipedia.org

"The Manhattan bottle service club, Arena, was sued in 2007 for their version of the clip joint scam. In December 2007, a patron knowingly purchased a $350 bottle of vodka, but was not told of a 3 bottle minimum. At the end of the night, he was presented with a $1050 tab that included two unordered bottles. When he refused to pay, the Arena bouncers beat him up. The patron agreed to get money from an ATM. The bouncers escorted him two blocks to the ATM, where his debit card was declined. The bouncers then dragged him back to the bar, where he was held until police arrived. He was arrested for theft of services but the charges were dismissed. [3] "

Samsung you never fail to provide interesting information. Thanks for posting so much good stuff.

As for the TUSCL card, it would have to start with Founder and a few top clubs. Don't see exactly how it would stop SCS (I favor adding SCS to the Glossary) but it would be great if a TUSCL card took hold. I don't think it will, because the number of people who would meet the criteria, AND would step up to the plate to get such a card, is probably small. For instance, I would not want to have my wife see a TUSCL card and ask "what's that, honey?"

Not unique to SCs, with a lot of stores when you call to ask if they have something in stock, the answer is always YES, so you'll come in and stay/buy anyway.

I've known several people in the SC business and all of them seemed to get as much pleasure out of getting away with breaking rules, and screwing people out of their money, as getting the money itself. So SCS is no wonder.

In reguards to dancer names.1st, many clubs never know who will show up. 2nd, the person answering the phone may not know the names of the dancers. So just go and take your chances.

I agree with Shadowcat. One really can't accept everyone is good buddies in a club. :)

I'll give you that, what shadowcat and deogol said. Even small clubs can have lots of different girls who are changing all the time, and bigger clubs may have hundreds.

If it's not too big of a club & there aren't a huge number of dancers working on any given night, then you might just call ahead & ask for a line-up, if they have one. I've had good luck with that in the past at certain clubs.

I do know of a couple clubs where you can call in and they will state what the lineup is for that day. I also know there are a couple others which have a posting of the dancers on the wall, usually on a dry eraser board. Other than those clubs, I think it is a complete waste of time to ask ahead of time because they do not say who's there. I know at my favorite club, there is a guy there who if you are lucky and he answers the phone, you can get the lineup, but more likely, he isn't answering the phone. But it's not like anyone there has a set schedule. And that's the thing. At some clubs, girls come and go as they wish and who's to know if a specific dancer is there at a given moment?

samsung: "saying she is 'not allowed'." -- I've got no beef with that, even is she's lying about that. Hence my comment about the guy who was nice enough to hang up on me.

bumrubber: "Not unique to SCs" -- Yeah, but I don't drive 45 minutes to get to a grocery store to spend several hundred dollars on one item.

shadowcat: "many clubs never know who will show up" -- Present tense, not future. I'm not asking them if so-and-so will be there tonight, but if she is there. And if you don't know, say so.

shadowcat: "the person answering the phone may not know the names of the dancers" -- Same thing. If you don't know, don't bullshit me. A couple of clubs gave me the dressing room number instead. I usually get the house mom and she always tells me the truth. Sometimes, if who I asked for isn't there, she'll try to plug another dancer who IS there, but that makes total sense. In fact, that actually has enticed me to go when I wasn't planning on it.

bumrubber: "Even small clubs can have lots of different girls" -- One of the two times this happened at Tiffany's, there were 4 girls. One was on stage and the other three were at the bar, 5 feet from the phone.

DandyDan: "girls come and go as they wish" -- I recognize that. And I realize that a dancer may leave early if it's a slow night. That's happened to me before. I'm talking about calling an hour into the shift (so she has time to be late) and showing up an hour later.

Of the three clubs that I frequent, Tiffany's is the closest and was on the fast track to be my go-to club (i.e. go there regardless of who's there). It's a fun club, laid-back, and the mileage (even on the floor) is very good. Even if I never went VIP (and there are a couple girls there that make that impossible), I'd easily drop a C-note or more on every visit. But apparently, they'd rather just have $10 and have me show up about 1/3 as often.

Or just do like shadowcat does and call the dancer and ask her if she'll be there. Dancers will lie to you about a lot of things but the smart ones certainly won't lie about this.

Know a bartender. They can be your best source of information. My favorite calls me when a dancer she knows I like is working, and has even called when a new one she believes I'd like started in the club.

I wish more clubs could be like the Jet Strip in LA and offer a twitter stream of what dancers are working.

Strip Club Shit is redundant, but then again so is Stripper Shit. Both work as a catch all, and the personal problem in the OP sounds like it could work as the former. I'm much more likely to spell out what the deal is with a club in a review than push it off as "SCS", though. A bad dancer is really no big deal because she's easy enough to avoid. A bad club or management? Not so easy.