How My Tastes Have Changed
seawa
Nevada
When I first started going to clubs about 5 years ago I didn't know what I wanted from a stripper. I mean, of course I wanted them to get naked and dance on me, but I didn't know what it would be like at all. Would they be like the girls in porn? Like civilians, the girl next door? Or something completely different?
On my first visit I was surprised to find out there were a lot more "average" looking girls than I expected. Several girls approached me and it was the basic, where are you from, do you want a dance routine. After a few dances I was approached by an older woman. She was in her late 30s, possibly early 40s. Great body though, fake Ds and a tight body. She was super confident, she just sat down and had a normal conversation with me. She made me feel comfortable and like I was the only reason she showed up to work that day.
I know now looking back that she was exactly what I wanted and needed. I was nervous and didn't know how to navigate the club. I needed her confidence to put me at ease and take the pressure off of me. After that visit, I would make sure she was there before I went. I would also get dances from her friends that she recommended. It worked out well, and because she was a veteran at that club, I got some cool perks.
After about 2 years of this I grew tired of that routine. The girls in her group were great but they basically kept me from the rest of the girls. This became a problem because there was a nice influx of new girls. I remember when I finally broke away. A new dancer approached me before my former group did and I was very intrigued by her. My "old" girls came by to try to get me away from her and I declined. That was all it took, I think they understood that they couldn't compete anymore.
I had "graduated" and was ready to find the right girls on my own. Thinking about it now, I am realizing that because I am more confident I am dealing with girls in their early 20s. I think I have the confidence now to play the game and get more value for my money. I am also getting extras regularly now. When I was dealing with veterans that didn't happen as often.
Physically, the women in their late 30s and the girls in their early 20s are both attractive in their own ways. I now prefer the younger girls though. It comes down to me seeing them as rookies in the game we play. Overall though, I am grateful to the vets that helped me get to this point.
So, have your tastes changed over time?
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Well, the local clubs are still no touching. But we have had circuits of underground shows.
I like to see the women in high heels and makeup, and mostly I've liked talking with them, seeing if I can relate to them. So I have learned a great deal in our strip clubs.
For sex, it has been AMPs for me.
When it became known that in San Francisco they were offering FS-ITC, I was always skeptical about it. It seemed like the time would not be enough and it would not be relaxed enough, and the money would be so high that you'd be being played for a sucker.
Now old fashioned lap dancing, meaning lap sitting, and in the front room, is great. And that can be extremely friendly.
But the clip joint, or 'wanna dance' style I see as a joke. Selling 'extras'. Ejaculation oriented acts performed by a dissociated girl. No, I don't go for that.
What I have done though is find ways to break out of the box, by DATYing them. That has a big effect on them and it is really fun too.
For me, the hurdle has always been just being able to learn to relate to the girls as ordinary people just like me. And I had to go thru a horrible marriage to finally get to this point.
Now I am involved in political and legal matters and then I will be traveling to spread a business.
So I have zero interest in 'extras' or even 'extras' - FS. Only thing I will partake of is GFE, and GFE where I and the girl have gotten to know each other some.
So thank you for your insightful article and you might find some of these recent threads of interest as, various points of view are expressed on these same matters.
Discussion of Time in Tijuana
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
Discussion of Adelitas TJ
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
Mr. LDK putting up pics of two girls, and extensive discussion following
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
SJG Philosophy
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
Breaking Out of the Box
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
SJG
https://sites.google.com/site/sjgportal/…
Stevie Ray Vaughan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIhVJnYa…
Similarly many dancers often prefer older custies since often times they are easier to deal with and more courteous and respectful than many a young buck.
I’m an Anglo-looking white Hispanic guy but into black women since my teen years. I started SCing regularly at age 30 but stuck to mixed/white clubs – at around 33 y/o (2003) I started visiting the all-black clubs and knew right away those were the women that turned me on the most and what I liked.
Up to about 2012/13 I was hitting the black clubs mostly but also would hit the mixed club b/c they were usually a different and more relaxed environment – I did find non-black dancers attractive and sorta enjoyed their dances; but with time I came to the conclusion that I felt I was not getting my money’s worth w/ non-black dancers b/c I just didn’t enjoy my dances w/ them as much – I liked the extreme bodies/curves of many black dancers that most non-black dancers don’t have and the dance-mileage in the black clubs was/is often like fucking w/ my clothes on – IME most black dancers did/do not mind my constantly groping hands and when they danced for me many a time it felt as if they would purposely aim their pussies for my hard-as-a-rock penis as if they were enjoying my penis when dancing for me (or wanted to give me the best dance possible to keep me spending?); whereas IME I often feel non-black dancers often trying to avoid my hard torpedo when giving me dances as to not simulate like we are fucking – but either way; in time; lap-dances with non-black dancers just didn’t move the needle for me anymore or as much; thus I came to the conclusion of not getting dances w/ non-black dancers since I was not necessarily getting my money’s worth b/c I did not enjoy them as much.
My SC tastes/habits have changed in that I’ve sorta double-downed and gotten more set in my ways with what I like and thus rarely get dances from non-black dancers anymore even though early on in my SC career I did and I enjoyed them back then.
When I first hit clubs, all the girls seemed hot so I wasn't as picky. Then my visits were infrequent because I had a gf/wife and my visits were for bachelor parties.
Towards the end of my marriage I made some visits just because I wasn't getting any and just wanted to see an attractive naked body up close so if I found them attractive I got dances just to have done titties in my face.
After my divorce I wanted just the opposite look from my wife and first girlfriend after the divorce so no blondes. After another the ex -gf only had B cups so I wanted C or bigger. Which is my preference itc anyway.
After awhile it returned to just who suited my fancy.
Since I've returned to the hobby from my last civilian relationship I've gotten more dances with black girls and hispanic girls itc although I'm meeting with a white girl otc.
So my tastes have changed frequently over the years.
I suspect that most guys really into sex will come to that same conclusion.
This by the way is why I am curious about those who are more interested in German FKK club than the Tijuana clubs. Does the white girl deficiency apply to all white girls, or just to White American girls?
And then, how does one explain and analyze it, and does it have to be this way?
SJG
https://sites.google.com/site/sjgportal/…
The heyday about 10 years ago there were a lot more dancers and my favorites were at least 8's and most were 9's and gave very good dances. I also went for a lot more variety and would often have dances from 30 different dancers in a year. Then 2007 hit and the economy fell, and too many cities and states enacted laws to reduce the activities in clubs
The number of dancers dropped quite a bit, and the larger city clubs started policing the dancers more. So to get good lap dances I had to either head to smaller towns, or out of state or stick with those dancers who I knew would skirt the rules.
So, I went back to having only a few favorites dancers at any given time, and while I was always on the look out for fresher things, I would typically only stop getting dancers from a dancer, if her quality dropped. Unlike my early years I was still much more picky. Partly because while less dancers than at a peak time, the number of dancers and clubs was still higher. While there are less 9's, especially 9's who give good dances, I stick to at least 7's in looks.
Like you I was in my 20s (technology 18) when I started and I found comfort in the older ladies that turned me out in this game
Now that I'm older (35) I very much now like yourself the young girls that need to be taught by a seasoned pro like myself it's a real turn on
But I must confess that option isn't as appealing as it used to be lol
I have known several dancers over the years. I currently have a thing for Asian women.
I live in the Midwest which is a problem. Not a big Asian population like out west in California.
I got my heart broken several times at a showclub. But, I would never trade my experiences
or what I have learned by being a customer. I know how to talk to a woman. It doesn't matter what you
say. Just say something. I learned how to touch a woman and have a lot of fun. I learned that there
are a lot of beautiful women in the world so don't waste your time getting hung up on one girl if
she is unobtainable. I have learned that beautiful women have problems too in their life.
No one's life is perfect. I have learned that taking a break every once in awhile from visiting a showclub
is good for me personally. I am older now. So, I tend to walk away from a dancer who treats me badly.
If she invests time with me. I am more likely to see her again. I don't do the "wanna dance" routine anymore.
I hate when a girl stops by and asks for a dance out of the blue. Then doesn't sit with me but goes and
sits with her regular for hours who may buy her drinks but doesn't drop any money on her for dances.
I have learned I don't want to hear abour a dancer's boyfriend and what vacation they are going on.
I hate hearing about any topic that jolts me back to reality that reminds me that this woman will never be
mine completey. I love the fantasy of the Strip Club. Also, I hate hearing about items an entertainer is purchasing
such as a new car, appliances for home. It makes me feel like a loser because obviously she sees more
money in a week to a month that I could only fathom. My tastes have changed but now I am more sefl -confident
and not shy at all in a showclub. I go right up to a girl and say hi and see where it leads.