What was once GFE is no longer the case
1Chanman
District of Columbia
During the 2000s, I found extras to be less frequent. When I talk about extras, I'm talking about an HJ, BJ, or FS. However, I think this was a good thing. I've got a lot of memories of strippers who not only have great lap dances, but were GFE without crossing the sex line. I'm talking full on making out with DFK, mutual touching without some type of full on sex, and talking and laughing that made me feel genuinely refreshed and good. These women did quite well, and I believe that if clubs went back to this, they'd be doing gangbusters. Yes, occasionally, I got an extra that crossed the line, but only because the intensity of what was going on between us was so strong and not some pre-negotiated act. And of course, I'd tip them extra because of that as well. These women helped me learn how to interact with other women in general because they were more apt to give a better experience if you had a good back and forth with them. For someone that was introverted and didn't know how to talk to women, it helped a ton. The touching and physical stuff also helped as well.
Unfortunately, this faded away as extras became more and more prevalent. I found more women just wanted to get you excited and get you finished as quickly as possible. Economically, it made more sense. Instead of investing the time and energy into 10-15 lap dances over the course of an hour and getting $300, you're now talking about getting the same amount for 15 minutes of work. And for a lot of these women, it's become quite mechanical. While this is good initially, a lot of men won't come back if they know it's just a quickie with no intimacy. While some men prefer this, I'd argue that more men would prefer the other way. Those experiences build lasting memories and a repeat customer base for these women. The other way is more of a forgetful cash transaction. And then, because of the standard this sets, you have less women willing to be intimate because the expectation is always sex at the end.
In a little while, I'll be headed to the Midwest again. I'm anxious to see if the mechanical, robotic experiences are still here, or if there's been a reversion back to what was a great strip club experience. I hope to have great reviews for upcoming visits, and for those that read this, please feel free to comment and let me know whether you agree with me or not.
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Another factor probably the increase in "make it rain" popularity. Just twerk and have some show off throw a bunch of $$ at her vs actually having to converse with a total stranger and be groped by him.
Yep, it's a changing world.
I agree that clubs are changing toward the efficiency model. I think the internet is part of what is changing clubs overall, as Minnow mentioned. I also think the new prevalence of the "incel" phenomenon, as a movement and a sub-culture, is something to consider. Whether or not there are a lot of actual real "incels" or not is largely beside the point for me. Instead, just the fact that we know what that thing is, and the fact that it is rumored to exist at all, is enough to indicate that there's an increased lack of sexual release in our society. In the good ol' days, every college guy could get an Ugg or Fattie to bend over at a frat party. He might not have been proud of it and he probably didn't want to be seen dating her through the course of the week, but he was probably getting his rocks off. Now campus and young adult culture are so prevalent in the anti-male and anti-sex crusades that it's often the case that males aren't actually getting any outlet at all. In more Victorian times, men learned to expect female resistance, and learned to deal with it, by either overcoming it (there's cajolery, there's violent wrong-doing, there's charm, there's marriage, there's cheating on a marriage, etc.) or accepting it (not expecting sex and not getting it, is a LOT easier than expecting it and not getting it). To the contrary, in our times, we pretend that there's little to no resistance and that therefore there's no need to develop any skill at either overcoming or accepting resistance, when in fact that IS still a need to develop that skill. So it's not really that people are getting laid less, it's that there's a greater maldistribution of lays and of information about sex than ever before. The hypocrisy is really killing the kids. Consequently, the first order of business is getting the rocks off at all, in the first place. Hence increased prevalence of efficient rock-offing services.
So it seems to me. I could be wrong. But I'm sympathetic to the plight of the "incel" (though I don't really agree with any of them, their anti-female rants are simply misinformed and tend to assume that the author himself is the victim of wrongdoing). I think these young boys are having harmful initial experiences and need the leadership of strong older men to direct them through the minefields. The absence of such leadership, and the plight of those who therefore remain leaderless, is a general cultural shift toward disconnection. This change in clubbing, which the article outlines, is IMO part and parcel of that cultural change.
and the oppertunity to experience it!
The relationship grew from being attracted to her physically to being enamored with her personality and heart.
Inside the club there are physical exchanges of affection and outside the club we are best friends.
As a bonus, she will often suggest girls that she thinks I would enjoy "meeting".
She said she couldn't compete with the new breed of stripper.
I asked what she meant by that and she replied that she made a living being smart, attractive and teasing the daylights out of all the horny guys. Today, there were two girls in the dressing room complaining about a guy that wants to touch and caress and talk and the young stripper said, " Finally, I had to say, Hey just pull out your dick so I can suck you off and get done here.".
@Jason M- Yep, leveraging the internet platform into income producing schemes is taking off these days. I just watched an interview with a 1st grade teacher in a GA Christian School who made $1M just for selling lesson plans to other teachers across the globe. She's not quitting her job, and is married to another teacher.
Now if a stripper can leverage OF, etal, platforms to make even 1/10th of that per year, why should she bust her heels 3 - 4 nights/wk in club ? Or she could still work in club, but "only do VIP's" or just hang out with reliable regular. Net effect on infrequent or out of town clubbers is a reduction in supply of available desirable dancers.
After Covid, I heard that Mons had changed for the worse, re-discovered TUSCL, and found out you could get sex at the clubs. Went to Gold Club, got blown by a Cuban. It was terrible, as soon as we got into the room, it was all business, she couldn't wait to finish.
HOWEVER, I've also had some good experiences, where the girl was very nice and sweet while she reached up my shorts. I can see the logic that leads to the dancers favoring quickies, but you can still find some gems out there. It just might take a while.