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2 years ago
Icee doesnt it depend on if she’s seriously attached to her boyfriend or husband.
Thats true on waitresses. But theres no rule that they cant or wont be attracted to someone just cause they’re a customer. Attraction isn’t necessarily a choice either.
Its interesting there’s also waitresses who have done OTC, with older guys as well. I think someone posted here how he got otc from a waitress. Who would have stripped but didn’t want the negative connotations of the job. There’s a whole area of civvie type girls who for different reasons dont want to work as an escort stripper or post on sugaring sites, but would still be open to discreet otc
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2 years ago
Bubble what did u mean management didn’t enforce requiring nude dances because of boundaries? Were customers trying to finger the pussies or what kind of boundaries were you talking about?
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2 years ago
Some clubs require people to pay for dances first. So in those clubs or in any situation where you’re paying first, you can get scammed.
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2 years ago
SJG,
“I learned this in my first visits to a strip club, the Sunnyvale Brass Rail, going from "*I* don't go out with customers", to seeing that I was not trying to set up pay for play, to becoming apologetic, "You don't understand, I get hit on by 50 guys a night", so that when I got home at 10pm the next night there is her voice on my answering machine”
So what happened what did she say regarding being apologetic? What was on your answering machine?
Bubbleyum the boundaries often arent based in any form of logic. For instance some dancers believe anything in the club is fine but outside the club even texting or light flirting is cheating.
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2 years ago
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CJKent_bandThe truth hurts, but if you accept it, it will set you free
Wow skibum, you are going after these guys hard!
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2 years ago
Bubbleyum I thought you were implying it’s disgusting to ask for otc. Maybe i misread you
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2 years ago
Wow SJG, youve got 45000 comments on here! Thank you for dedicating the time to advise us on these topics. That’s a lot of time and hard work you’ve put into it, all free of charge for us.
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2 years ago
SJG but there seem to be all kinds of posts about OTC here where things were as simple as the dancer being asked for OTC or offering it herself. In those cases were they just okay being seen as a hooker? The money was worth being seen as one?
Bubbleyum technically offering money for OTC isnt disrespectful. You’re offering money for a service. A service that a lot of people give for free. It’s only seen as offensive or disrespectful because of social or religious brainwashing, societal brainwashing etc. Asking someone for sex for free, vs asking them for sex for money? The first one is technically more offensive yet in a brainwashed society the first option is seen as acceptable and second one is considered a grave offense. It’s all about that mental game. Being seen as or treated as a hooker has a certain stigma to it. The stigma is so severe that some people think being offered sex for money is more offensive than being asked for sex for free.
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2 years ago
Icee i was just taking your posts as you stated them.
I think there could be many, maybe even a majority of strip club customers are unattractive due to excess weight or age or facial features or behavior. these dancers were ignoring that and saying theres little to no attraction because they have full control of the situation and the dance. Even that isn’t really true, cause they can set the rules but the customer chooses whether or not to pay.
There are plenty of jobs where people are attracted to their coworkers or clients. Usually the feelings are kept in check for professional reasons. The statement of no attraction to clients seems false. It’s like a politically correct thing to say or something someone in a relationship would say.
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2 years ago
Rick dont you need to also perform well in the otc.
Also there are guys in their 50s who look incredible. Muscular, still have hair on their head, etc.
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2 years ago
Icee your posts were worded in a concrete way. You claimed dancers only care about money but randomly in another thread you’ll say dancers can be picked up just like regular girls.
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2 years ago
These dancers were acting like because they got to control the nature of the dance and set their rules they didnt have attraction to their clients.
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2 years ago
Icee you’re advising her to lead guys on why? No need to lead anyone on.
You said it’s about money but you’ve also said strippers like some clients.
I’m not sure women care about looks like men do. Or even if all guys do. There’s all those examples of ugly guy with hot girl, or ugly girl with hot guy?
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2 years ago
Docssvage the guys who dont care about them, are showing they’re not needy, and showing they possibly have lots of other options available. It’s about the implications and subtle interpretations of the guys behavior. It ties into why some people play the intentional ignoring text game
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2 years ago
ChampPhilly I’m a younger guy and these strippers were interviewed online. You didn’t read the OP.
Icee these strippers claimed that the very act of being a customer made them have little to no attraction. It doesn’t really seem believable. But like docsavage mentioned it could be related to some customers who spend a large amount for little in return.
Sukki if youre in a non extras club those guys are basically asking about sex. It seems like a common thing they’d ask for? Why is it needy
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2 years ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
Some say income tax itself shouldn’t exist, only sales tax. Cause nobody really has a right to know what someone else’s income is.
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2 years ago
Wow 25 you destroyed him! Left him scrambling
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2 years ago
What is all this about paying dancers to sit and talk? Who the hell does that and why, and what kind of money is being paid? People pay lapdance money to sit and talk?
Sometimes the dancers are sitting and talking but they’re trying to sell a dance. Eventually they’ll move on, unless someone buys a dance or apparently pays them to sit longer. I cant imagine the rationalization for that
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2 years ago
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Rick incredible post and description. Are you doing a mostly all meat/carnivore/keto diet these days
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2 years ago
SJG off topic but some clubs take credit card payments usually with a big service fee charge. Otherwise most dancers escorts etc are getting most income in cash. Can they evade taxes entirely since the income is in cash?
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2 years ago
Cut what off?
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2 years ago
Why bump this icee? Its a good thread anyway i wss curious how ldk stacks up to the other things
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2 years ago
25 and subra what rate are you paying for your otc? There’s a few pornstars id pay the $1000+ for. Theres a lot of guys paying that on the pornstarescort subreddit. The pornstars post their touring dates on their twitter and escort sites. All the fans they have allows them to charge the high hourly rate. Lauren Phillips is one that has good reviews
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2 years ago
Many of the pornstars and instagram models are escorts but charge $1000+ an hour. Some of these ig models look insane but there could be filters and editing involved
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2 years ago
Tetradon and subraman what websites are you guys using for escorts? The high end ones are on eros and tryst but they need to be verified supposedlg it means they sent in their photo ID proof. Theres also chocolatecitimodels and travelingbrazilians.
Icee you cant be serious saying illegal = immoral now but youre always talking about selling or using illegal drugs, or illegal pimping or other illegal stuff.