Dancers who dont want to be treated like hookers and dont want to feel guilty?
rickmacrodong
Some posters on here have talked about how dancers and even civvie girls don’t want to be treated like hookers.
It’s a sort of conundrum where these dancers and civvies would be willing to accept money for OTC or sex but they don’t want to be seen as hookers or treated like hookers.
Additionally I know someone who is pretty experienced at getting women off these dating apps like hinge and tinder. He told me about another conundrum which applies specifically to women already in relationships. Some of these women are willing to cheat, or in a dancers case, willing to do OTC, but they don’t want to feel guilty about it and don’t want to feel like it’s cheating. He said with those girls the cheating has to take place in a way where they don’t feel guilty or accountable for the cheating and don’t feel it was cheating at all.
So the question is how do you start OTC with these types of girls. If they fall into this category, the approach of directly asking about OTC won’t work cause they don’t want to feel like hookers or feel guilty. It has to be done in a way where they don’t feel like hookers and don’t think it’s considered cheating. I think some of these dancers may be the type who say they don’t do OTC but that they do dates where they’re paid for their time. But if you pay upfront for that date you’re taking a risk.
It’s a sort of conundrum where these dancers and civvies would be willing to accept money for OTC or sex but they don’t want to be seen as hookers or treated like hookers.
Additionally I know someone who is pretty experienced at getting women off these dating apps like hinge and tinder. He told me about another conundrum which applies specifically to women already in relationships. Some of these women are willing to cheat, or in a dancers case, willing to do OTC, but they don’t want to feel guilty about it and don’t want to feel like it’s cheating. He said with those girls the cheating has to take place in a way where they don’t feel guilty or accountable for the cheating and don’t feel it was cheating at all.
So the question is how do you start OTC with these types of girls. If they fall into this category, the approach of directly asking about OTC won’t work cause they don’t want to feel like hookers or feel guilty. It has to be done in a way where they don’t feel like hookers and don’t think it’s considered cheating. I think some of these dancers may be the type who say they don’t do OTC but that they do dates where they’re paid for their time. But if you pay upfront for that date you’re taking a risk.
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BigThirdEye is just cacaplop trying to swamp these forums with repetitive, stupid questions, either via his own threads or crashing other threads.
But, as always, take a look at his posting history and judge for yourself.
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Otherwise, don't think you're answering sincere questions.
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“In this world, shipmates, sin that pays its way can travel freely, and without a passport; whereas Virtue, if a pauper, is stopped at all frontiers."
~Father Mapple via Herman Melville's "Moby Dick".
The converse is how many civvie girls act like hookers. Say they are looking for "generous guys," some explicitly ask for guys to take them shopping or refer them to their Amazon wish list. Some even want you to CashApp them money just to _talk_ to them. Then if you don't, they insult you and say you're "broke."
I've also known civvie girls who would fuck anything from a Great Dane on up who invented convoluted definitions of "slut," as in "I'm not a slut, because unlike Melissa, at least I don't ... ... ..."
Moral: Women (and men for that matter though we aren't talking about them here) will redefine any term like "cheating" or "hooker" to make themselves feel good about it.
Here's a hint, as one of the more prolific online daters here. There are plenty of single (or polyamorous) women out there to date and fuck; they're honest about what they are, and don't bring extra drama into their lives. Those cheaters will cheat on you too. If you just want to dip your stick, go on Tinder, be honest about it, know the big scams (like Bitcoin traders, especially Asian-born Asians), and prepare to drop your standards.
I'll leave OTC to the king of it (RickDugan) or others who have at least done it.
I never ask for sex from a stripper. Usually, they like that but I've had some regulars who seemed a little annoyed or frustrated they can't make more money off me by getting me to do extras either inside or outside the club. So, you can have strippers get annoyed at you for asking for extras and you can have strippers get annoyed at you if you don't ask for extras. I think the rule that strip club customers should follow is that it is ok to offer money for something but not ok to get angry if your offer is turned down. The rule strippers should follow is that it is ok to offer lap dances or extras but not ok to get angry if turned down.
Regarding the not feeling guilty thing, there are some dancers who apply the logic of “whatever happens in the club stays in the club”. These dancers will do all kinds of extras ITC, but OTC refuse to even flirt with a guy over text.
But if some dancer has both the not feeling guilty issue and not wanting to feel like a hooker, those ones may be harder to get extras from or you have to go about it differently than directly asking. One dancer for instance said if her milk comes out in the dance it’s fine but she doesn’t want it to be a dealbreaker.
Docsavage what kind of lapdance was that where they dont allow breast touching? Isn’t breast touching supposed to be guaranteed in a lapdance. Doc you are right everyone should follow the stoic approach but due to legalities i wouldnt directly offer money for an extra I would rather ask if they do otc or extras. How come you don’t want extras or sex from strippers btw? Moral reasons?
SJG is delusional and autistic. Pay his "definition" no heed.
Hoes easily compartmentalize it. And cope with drugs alcohol. Whatever.
You get hoes with pimps and boyfriends. Boyfriend pimps. Renegades are becoming more rare.
Their mindset is different. In her mind she takes money for her time and gives it to her pimp. She's not taking money for sex. In her mind he takes care of her.
Or girls who just day they don't fuck for free. Civvies are that way especially instathots.
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I don’t understand the rest of your post. I was talking about how some civvies and dancers might be okay with otc but dont want to feel like a hooker or slut doing it and dont want to feel guilty if they have a SO or are religious. It seems like you just posted random thoughts on hoeing in general
I don't see buying or selling sex as immoral because it is a voluntary transaction between two consenting adults. I reserve the word "immoral" for those who use force or fraud to get what they want. When I was young I was married. I liked having sex with my wife but she was pretty demanding and I finally decided it wasn't worth meeting her demands in exchange for sex so I left. Ever since then I have often felt that women expect too much in exchange for sex. In the case of strippers, I always think they want too much money for sex. Most of them also want too much money for lap dances but in that case I have found a few who are worth it. Sex is more fun than lap dances but the price is just too high, at least for me.
One thing you should realize is when strippers get angry that you want to buy sex it is not always a case they are angry at being treated like a prostitute. When you do that, you are showing you are not interested in buying what they are selling. They want to sell you lap dances but you don't think their lap dances are worth it. This is a form of rejection, so they get angry. Some strippers like to portray the typical situation in a strip club as men getting angry at girls because they won't do what they want but it is just as common for the girls to get angry at the guys because they won't do what they want.
Renegades are becoming less common because of street politics. In places like vegas or la. Stockton Sacramento San Francisco. Hookers are forced to choose up if they want to work.
For the most part it's the same girls advertising on sugaring apps and hoeing sites that you see working clubs or the blade. They utilize whatever means to attract tricks that they can. And pimps and gangs tax them or coerce them til they choose up
Also really young girls are just extremely passive and see it as being taken care of.
SJG
Sometimes though they just learn to put up with it. But even so, there is no reason to treat them that way.
SJG
That's saying we deserve to be cat called or raped based off of what we wear. No fucking wonder I had you blocked on my old account. I forgot how disturbingly dumb you are.
Sometimes, you should just learn to put up with everyone's opinion of you and learn your place.
Bubbleyum technically offering money for OTC isnt disrespectful. You’re offering money for a service. A service that a lot of people give for free. It’s only seen as offensive or disrespectful because of social or religious brainwashing, societal brainwashing etc. Asking someone for sex for free, vs asking them for sex for money? The first one is technically more offensive yet in a brainwashed society the first option is seen as acceptable and second one is considered a grave offense. It’s all about that mental game. Being seen as or treated as a hooker has a certain stigma to it. The stigma is so severe that some people think being offered sex for money is more offensive than being asked for sex for free.
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